List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Masked Avenger]

WC wouldn't be against sliding down 6 picks if it meant getting Busslinger - but Port's 2023 First Round pick is not enticing enough particularly with Rioli going the other way. The problem with this trade scenario is that it's going to take two of Port's above average players to get it done on top of its next two first rounders. Can't see that happening.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

AFL trades 2022: Xavier Duursma rules out move to North Melbourne or West Coast to break trade deadlock​

Xavier Duursma has no interest in moving to North Melbourne or West Coast as the trade standoff continues. What does it mean for Junior Rioli and Jason Horne-Francis?

Jay Clark

4 min read
October 7, 2022 - 8:29AM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/spor.../2150aec173abbc361b7fce16f9f26f55#share-tools

Port Adelaide young gun Xavier Duursma has no interest in moving to North Melbourne or West Coast to help break the deadlock in the proposed three-way trade for Jason Horne-Francis.

The Eagles want a promising young player as part of the deal to satisfy the Eagles and trigger a move to send North Melbourne’s Horne-Francis and Eagles’ Junior Rioli to Port Adelaide.

West Coast would slide back from pick two to eight and receive the Power’s future first-round draft pick in return as part of the proposal.

But the Eagles aren’t satisfied with the offering as it stands and want a player such as star key forward Mitch Georgiades to be part of the deal.

Duursma’s future has also come into focus as part of the three-club talks, but the man whose form dipped this year playing 11 games has made it clear he does not want to switch clubs and move interstate.

Duursma has stated his desire to stay at Port and help drive the team back into the premiership mix next season in talks with club chiefs and his manager, David Trotter, from Hemisphere management.

Duursma, an exciting and dynamic wingman, was brilliant in his first two seasons but has struggled with injury issues more recently.

The 22-year-old from South Gippsland was originally taken pick 18 as part of the package Port received for losing Chad Wingard to Hawthorn in 2017.

West Coast list boss Rohan O’Brien will remain engaged in talks with North Melbourne and Port Adelaide on Friday as the three clubs work in good faith to try and complete a deal.

But if West Coast is not satisfied with the proposal it will happily keep pick two and deal separately with the Power on a deal for Junior Rioli to Port.
West Coast is talking tough on Rioli who wants to move to South Australia, in part, for family reasons.

North Melbourne have said it is prepared to keep Horne-Francis to his contract at Arden St next year but there are also concerns about whether the No. 1 pick would happily commit to another season at the Kangaroos following a turbulent first season.

Horne-Francis’ professionalism was questioned this year but there remains high hopes for his playing career once he settles and adapts to the rigours of playing at the highest level.

There remains high confidence Melbourne ruckman Luke Jackson will get to Fremantle as part of a deal for the Dockers’ pick 13, a future first and second-rounder.

As part of that deal the Demons would give something extra back to Fremantle.

That deal will clinch Brodie Grundy’s move from Collingwood to Melbourne with sources close to the deal certain Jackson will get to Fremantle and Grundy will line-up for Melbourne next year.

Xavier Duursma has no interest in moving to North Melbourne or West Coast

Yet nowhere in the crap he calls an article does it state we or WCE even asked about him or want him. But it does state Georgiades as a player that WCE may want.

I would have no interest in going to teams if they had no interest in me either.

 

[sutcliffe's hotel]

This now seems Port's only option:

 

[Makeshift Park]

Honestly here is a legit argument that JHF alone wouldn't be enough for a straight swap for butters (if I was port there's no way I would be doing it) he's just that good with a huge ceiling ahead of him. Has had a rough trot with injury in recent times but he made the AA squad in his second year playing half forward, he's an absolute freak and I think ends up with a more decorated career than Horne.

Butters is great.
As things stand I'd take him and a second rounder in the twenties for JHF.
It could've been something close to a straight swap if they'd approached the trade like adults and hadn't jeopardised our trade plans by announcing the heist hours before the trade season opened.

 

[Farthers]

Some stuff in here discussing JHF, TT and Clarko.

 

[amaz199]

Honestly here is a legit argument that JHF alone wouldn't be enough for a straight swap for butters (if I was port there's no way I would be doing it) he's just that good with a huge ceiling ahead of him. Has had a rough trot with injury in recent times but he made the AA squad in his second year playing half forward, he's an absolute freak and I think ends up with a more decorated career than Horne.

Contracted player and generational talent I think puts this argument to bed.

A player like JHF don't come often even though his attitude stinks.

 

[Tas]

GWS have shown previously they're prepared to trade up to get the guy they want, even if he's not the consensus pick, just to guarantee it. It could easily be Tsatas or Sheezel as well.

They want Clark who is a local boy I think. He might be there at 7.

It is why I think Bowes is crazy, if they get Clark and Bruhn he better get comfortable in the VFL.

 

[giantroo]

Pick 18.

 

[Shinboner1]

When do we get some deals to happen!

 

[see see]

I recon John doe is Ricky. Maybe hew got multiple accounts lol

One for each of the voices in his head?

 

[giantroo]

 

[Harris 10]

1 for 3, 12 and 18, use 18 to bring Clark in.

 

[Sillygit]

When do we get some deals to happen!

when we start dealing with the plastics

 

[Sphynx]

To get Pick 3 in 2016 to draft Taranto.

GWS traded:

Pick 7, Pick 34, Pick 74 and Cam McCarthy who they valued at 2 first rounders the year before.

When they wanted Adelaide’s pick 4 in 2019:

They traded Pick 6 and their Future 1st.



Given where they finished and it’s the no.1 pick, I’d be absolutely asking for 3, 12 and their future 1st. It’s the #1 pick, it hasn’t been traded in decades.

Ralph, Pick 15 can **** off


People get so near sighted, GWS future first is potentially the most valuable thing we may be offered in any trade this offseason, if we are trading #1, it has to be the first demand.

Try and get 3, 12 and F1 from GWS.

Try and get 8, F1 and another pick in the top 15 from Port.

Trade that last pick from Port for Clark.

Take 3,8,12 to the draft.

Have 3 x first rounders with possibly 2 x top 4 picks in the 2023 super draft.

 

[king rising]

1 for 3, 12 and 18, use 18 to bring Clark in.

Nah.

 

[My Left Foote]

Could be good for us GWS now hold 3, 12, 15, 18 & 19 with pick(s) for Hopper to come.

Let's see exactly how keen they are for Pick 1, I'd be asking for minimum 3, 12 & 15 OR 3, 15, 18 & 19

 

[Harris 10]

Nah.

to be honest i want to keep 1, but GWS must pay a big price for it if they want get it and we are willing to give it up.

 

[sutcliffe's hotel]

Just when Port thought JHF was in their grasp:

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Could be good for us GWS now hold 3, 12, 15, 18 & 19 with pick(s) for Hopper to come.

Let's see exactly how keen they are for Pick 1, I'd be asking for either 3, 12 & 15 OR 3, 15, 18 & 19.

Do we even have the list spots to take that many players in the draft? I'd prefer to take GWS future 1st. Might potentially be a top 4 pick.

 

[Shinboner1]

1 for 3, 12 and 18, use 18 to bring Clark in.

We want quality over quality. It's too many picks for the list space we have, especially if JHF is netting us a couple too.

 

[Chewy Chewman]

Have we actually heard from Sinn and Bergman if they’d be open to a move.

Or is Port just refusing to trade them.

 

[Passmore]

Could be good for us GWS now hold 3, 12, 15, 18 & 19 with pick(s) for Hopper to come.

Let's see exactly how keen they are for Pick 1, I'd be asking for either 3, 12 & 15 OR 3, 15, 18 & 19
AND their future 1st

 

[Shinboner1]

Do we even have the list spots to take that many players in the draft? I'd prefer to take GWS future 1st. Might potentially be a top 4 pick.

We'd have to try and trade up the order, don't have the space especially if we get a couple from JHF.

 

[Sphynx]

to be honest i want to keep 1, but GWS must pay a big price for it if they want get it and we are willing to give it up.

It categorically has to include their future 1st.

Their future 1st is potentially worth more than 2022 Pick 3

 

[r_boy]

We want quality over quality. It's too many picks for the list space we have, especially if JHF is netting us a couple too.

I would want their F1 for death ride. They won't be that good will they?