List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

[giantroo]

Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

AFL Draft - AFL.com.au

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Spoiler: Key dates

AFL Trade Period Key Dates - AFL.com.au

When does Free Agency begin? How long does the Trade Period go for? Find out on AFL.com.au.

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[Ashley B]

LEAGUE CLAMPS DOWN ON BIDDING COLLUSION​

THE AFL has added extra layers to block any potential bidding collusion between clubs in this year's Trade Period.

The League has previously pushed to stop clubs from doing any deals that could include unwritten favours such as not bidding on father-son or Academy prospects at the NAB AFL Draft, but has added extra steps to clamp down this year.

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER Every club's hand as it stands

Every trade that is executed between clubs sees list managers or club representatives join an online meeting, with a line of questioning relating to the trade to ensure it is not linked to any other trade or bidding agreements.

The direct and explicit questions for each party have been added to the process making a trade official, with each meeting recorded by the AFL.

There were two father-sons – Sam Darcy and Nick Daicos – who attracted bids inside the top-four picks last year, while Will Ashcroft could be the first father-son to be bid on at No.1 at November's draft after a dominant draft campaign. – Callum Twomey

What about those flipping fruit hamper or baskets the Cats use any rules on these or traditional brown paper bags less sophisticated clubs use ,are they ok by the integrity unit .

 

[4cunningTonneTruck]

LEAGUE CLAMPS DOWN ON BIDDING COLLUSION​

THE AFL has added extra layers to block any potential bidding collusion between clubs in this year's Trade Period.

The League has previously pushed to stop clubs from doing any deals that could include unwritten favours such as not bidding on father-son or Academy prospects at the NAB AFL Draft, but has added extra steps to clamp down this year.

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER Every club's hand as it stands

Every trade that is executed between clubs sees list managers or club representatives join an online meeting, with a line of questioning relating to the trade to ensure it is not linked to any other trade or bidding agreements.

The direct and explicit questions for each party have been added to the process making a trade official, with each meeting recorded by the AFL.

There were two father-sons – Sam Darcy and Nick Daicos – who attracted bids inside the top-four picks last year, while Will Ashcroft could be the first father-son to be bid on at No.1 at November's draft after a dominant draft campaign. – Callum Twomey

I wonder if they would be clamping down if Geelong held pick 1 this year

 

[Roo Beauty]

Got SEN on. It’s been said before but Rendell is genuinely senile.

 

[Newbie Real Talk]

I am worried that we don't have the leverage that we think we have.
If we don't take the deal offered from Port then Judas stays on our list, plays the mental health card and sits out the year. Next year Port offers 1 first round then we either accept that or walk him to the PSD and get nothing.
The deal will end up as pick 2 and change. We get shafted but that's pretty much situation normal when it comes to us.

 

[Makeshift Park]

So pick 3 (2234) + pick 12 (1268) for pick 1 would probably be about the price?
Still 500 points over

 

[Ashley B]

The words AFL and integrity I was going to ask who his dentist was but I decided to give it a miss.

 

[chubbspeterson]

We might get less but at least the other clubs know we won't just roll over if the deal isn't what we want.

 

[Roo Beauty]

Got SEN on. It’s been said before but Rendell is genuinely senile.

He just said Freo want to draft Cadman and that picks 12 and 15 is fair value for pick 2! Moron!

 

[chubbspeterson]

Rendell "What's a comp"? Had no idea it was short for comparison lol.

 

[Ashley B]

We might get less but at least the other clubs know we won't just roll over if the deal isn't what we won't.

Although I don’t think we can get less than what Ports are currently offering, a bag of cashews. I know cashews are expensive, but…..

 

[Roo202]

What about those *ing fruit hamper or baskets the Cats use any rules on these or traditional brown paper bags less sophisticated clubs use ,are they ok by the integrity unit .

Unless it explicitly says "including Geelong" in any release from the AFL about clamping down on some aspect of trading, the draft, salary cap etc. it just a given there is an unwritten "unless it involves Geelong" clause attached.

 

[Agenda 21]

He just said Freo want to draft Cadman and that picks 12 and 15 is fair value for pick 2! Moron!

What a Billy Hunt. Get off the radio, smegma head.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

If we deal with GWS there’s the potential we could end up with our own second rounder back that was used in the CCJ trade. Amazing how it all plays out this time of year.

Will it stop BF posters complaining about the original deal?

 

[chubbspeterson]

You think we can get away with not bidding on Ashcroft if we use NAB portfolio as an excuse or maybe later deal we did with brissie is for points with Cooper?

 

[Farthers]

I am worried that we don't have the leverage that we think we have.
If we don't take the deal offered from Port then Judas stays on our list, plays the mental health card and sits out the year. Next year Port offers 1 first round then we either accept that or walk him to the PSD and get nothing.
The deal will end up as pick 2 and change. We get shafted but that's pretty much situation normal when it comes to us.

 

[The Anvil]

The PSD bus is starting to accept passengers.

 

[giantroo]

AFL Trades 2022: GWS Giants pushing to land pick 1 from North Melbourne, interest in Aaron Cadman
www.heraldsun.com.au
North Melbourne has been offered attractive trade proposals by Greater Western Sydney to secure the No. 1 overall pick in November’s national draft as the Giants’ draft hand grew to epic proportions on Friday.
After the trade for No. 12 draft pick Tanner Bruhn as the Giants secured pick 18 from Geelong means GWS now has picks 3, 12, 15, 18 and 19 and will secure pick 31 from Richmond as part of the Jacob Hopper

2

Jacob Hopper

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.3

5star

D

17.6

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

8.9

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

18.6

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.4

5star

trade.
The Herald Sun revealed on Friday the Giants were interested in securing the No. 1 overall pick to guarantee they could take a tall key forward like Vic Country’s Aaron Cadman.
That prospect grew even stronger on Friday with the Giants having told the Roos they would offer up a quality trade package to secure the No. 1 pick.
The Giants could end up offering the No. 3 selection and one of 12 or 15 to the Roos, who are likely to secure the first two selections of the draft in a multi-club trade for Jason Horne-Francis.

Aaron Cadman (centre) flies for a mark during the National Championships.
The Roos currently have pick one and West Coast selection two but the Eagles are prepared to push back in the draft order to eight to also secure a future first-rounder from Port Adelaide.
Greater Western Sydney does not need more midfielders given they have stars including Stephen Coniglio

3

Stephen Coniglio

Age

32

Ht

182cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.5

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

11.5

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.7

5star

CL

4.7

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

5.4

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

3.0

5star

, Josh Kelly, Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

24

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

, Cal Ward and the emerging Lachie Ash.
So they would be prepared to offer the Roos a deal that secured them an extra pick within 15 but still allowed them to skim the cream of the draft crop with two elite midfielders.
There is little prospect of a club absorbing the salary of Nick Haynes

26

Nick Haynes

Age

33

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

, the GWS defender whose back-ended contract is in excess of $800,000 in the next two seasons.
And while clubs might make a late push to ask about the silky halfback Lachie Whitfield

6

Lachie Whitfield

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.3

5star

M

6.3

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

411.8

5star

D

21.4

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

8.9

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.8

3star

MG

350.6

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

9.4

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

, he is signed to 2027 on a deal of around $1 million a season.
Whitfield had a poor season but was hampered by a serious ankle injury from the first months of the year, declining to have mid-season ankle surgery to instead keep playing.
The Giants still have a talented list and do not need to take six picks within 31 given they can apply a more targeted approach.
Securing a player like Cadman with the No. 1 overall pick would solve many of their key forward issues with 27-year-old Jesse Hogan

23

Jesse Hogan

Age

30

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

talented but injury-prone.
Richmond ruckman Ivan Soldo

13

Ivan Soldo

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.9

2star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

24.2

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

3.1

1star

HB

4.1

3star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

23.0

5star

D

6.4

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

21.4

5star

has had a medical with the Giants and is a strong chance to be part of a deal for Jacob Hopper

2

Jacob Hopper

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

9.9

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.3

5star

D

17.6

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

8.9

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.6

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

18.6

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.4

5star

which could secure GWS the No. 31 pick and the Tigers’ future first-round selection.

Aaron Cadman marks in the NAB League.

 

[Agenda 21]

Will it stop BF posters complaining about the original deal?

It's a known unknown.

 

[Ashley B]

“My understanding”isn’t that a cornerstone of Sweet Caroline’s rhetoric, thought she had a patent on it.

 

[Kangaroos techno]

I hate seeing giantroo pinned to the top of this thread. I get excited thinking it's some serious news that's happened. Can The Filth Wizard copy+paste it, post it, and pin that. I'm less likely to be enthusiastic about his post.

 

[RHLK]

My all-time favourite cartoon.

'.....Leopold!'

 

[Agenda 21]

I hate seeing giantroo pinned to the top of this thread. I get excited thinking it's some serious news that's happened. Can The Filth Wizard copy+paste it, post it, and pin that. I'm less likely to be enthusiastic about his post.

I get excited thinking about giantroo. Embrace it.

 

[Roo202]

I am worried that we don't have the leverage that we think we have.
If we don't take the deal offered from Port then Judas stays on our list, plays the mental health card and sits out the year. Next year Port offers 1 first round then we either accept that or walk him to the PSD and get nothing.
The deal will end up as pick 2 and change. We get shafted but that's pretty much situation normal when it comes to us.

There is a risk to us that we get less (or even nothing in the unlikely PSD scenario) if we hold him to his contract. But I think the risk to Port not getting the deal done this year is far greater.

He could change his mind and sign a new contract with us, he might be happy just to get to SA and include the Crows, he might decide he wants to go to another club entirely.

At the moment Port is his only choice, it is a bigger risk for them to not get the deal done now. 12 months ago, it seemed he saw his future with us, just because right now he sees it at Port is no guarantee that 12 months from now that will still be the case. Pressure is on Port more than us to act now.

 

[Ashley B]

I get excited thinking about giantroo. Embrace it.

I have Giant Roos hopping around my property and they shit everywhere, less enthused lol

 

[Agenda 21]

I have Giant Roos hopping around my property and they s**t everywhere, less enthused lol

Haven't you just bounced into this thread, with your tail up!!!