List Mgmt. 2022 Trade & List Management Thread II

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Spoiler: Confirmed Trades

Spoiler: Draft Pick order

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Spoiler: Key dates

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Key Dates:

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm
Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October
NAB AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm
AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections


Thursday 03 November at 9.00am
AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

NAB AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

2022 NAB AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)

Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)

2022 NAB AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)

Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)

AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
NAB AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[DocSholl]

That isnt a strong hand in next years draft.

We need an extra pick at the pointy end to increase our chances of pick 1.

Trading out both JHF and pick 1 this year is the perfect opportunity.

Port will be far more likely to finish top four than down the bottom next year.

 

[Higgo2Froggy]

For the benefit of those playing along at home, let's recap all of this week's "Keys to Unlocking the JHF deal" :
Monday: Port's future third
Tuesday: Riley Bonner

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Riley Bonner

Age

28

Ht

190cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

12.1

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

279.8

4star

D

12.3

3star

K

10.3

4star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

279.8

4star

D

21.4

5star

K

14.0

5star

HB

7.4

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.0

4star

Wednesday: Pick 2
Thursday: Dan Houston

9

Dan Houston

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

Friday: A mega deal involving one-third of the league and the top 3 picks being traded

Boy, what a wild ride...and there's still so many questions to be answered:
Will North be shafted?
Will Port finally relent and give up a young player?
How many more teams can we rope into this deal?
Will the media stop being Port's ventriloquist dummy for this trade?

For the answers to these questions and so many more, tune into next week's edition of "Breaking the Contract Code: The Keys to Unlocking the Judas JHF Deal"
Well, actually I can give you the answer to that first one right now: Yes, we will almost certainly be shafted

 

[tazaa]

If we give up 1 it means we want 2 or 3 back and another top 10 pick.
I’d only accept a future 1st if it came from West Coast, Adelaide, Hawthorn or *
Even then it’s too risky.

What everyone is missing is players.
Butters, Sinn, Whitfield these are the names that need to be discussed to get any of this shit off the ground.
Otherwise come Christmas we will have 2 pick 1s running around Arden st oval.

 

[JGreezy]

At this stage we will walk away with:

• George Wardlaw
• JHF in a sooky mood all year, before nominating Port

With this trade we might end up with:

• George Wardlaw
• Sheezel/Tsatas
• death watching Port's pick (maybe top 10)
• pick 18 or similar value in picks and players

 

[Ashley B]

What would make me laugh Ports head recruiter finally gets what we require and we knock it back "you promised me”Brady and friends

 

[shazzabee]

Feels like this thread should be titled trade and list management threats


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[Roodus]

If North say no to whole deal and keep JHF, what do we think Ports going to have to pay for Rioli and Ratugolea?

 

[Disco Dew]

This ones going to the deadline isn't it?

 

[Ashley B]

The longer it lasts the more desperate they will need to get. Remember we are allegedly looking at trading both our number 1 picks .

 

[hilly]

If North say no to whole deal and keep JHF, what do we think Ports going to have to pay for Rioli and Ratugolea?

David Rodan and pick 69 in the 2030 mid-season draft.

 

[My Left Foote]

I think it makes sense independent of what happens with JHF, no?

Yeah, maybe, there’s so many variables; let’s say we do the trade with GWS and we get 3, 12, 18/19 but Port can’t get 2 from West Coast done so we end up with 8, future 1st and something / someone. Perhaps we could package up 8 and 12 for 2 from West Coast would that work? I seriously don’t know it’s doing my head in!

 

[Harris 10]

Out- 1 and future 2nd
In - 3,12 and F1

I could handle this.

 

[hilly]

Port know this is their chance to get JHF. 12 months is a long time for other suitors to pitch and get organised.

 

[Farthers]

This ones going to the deadline isn't it?

 

[Agenda 21]

This ones going to the deadline isn't it?

Does a rocking horse have a wooden di*k?

 

[Disco Dew]

Does a rocking horse have a wooden di*k?

Be weird if it did

 

[Makeshift Park]

At this stage we will walk away with:

• George Wardlaw
• JHF in a sooky mood all year, before nominating Port

With this trade we might end up with:

• George Wardlaw
• Sheezel/Tsatas
• death watching Port's pick (maybe top 10)
• pick 18 or similar value in picks and players

And if we tell Port to go jump unless they get us a good player, and we just deal with GWS we get:

• 1 of Wardlaw, Sheezel and Tsatas
• a fun new project of trivial difficulty for someone of Clarko's talents (that's Jason)
• a young elite tall like Jefferson or Busslinger
• Hunter Clark

 

[Ashley B]

The picks 3 , 12

Does a rocking horse have a wooden di*k?

Dont forget the wooden plums

 

[Agenda 21]

The picks 3 , 12

Dont forget the wooden plums

I guess that makes you Master Splinter?

 

[Kangas_11]

The mega trade is so insanely stupid and definitely another port leak.

If we trade #1 it's because GWS really really want it, and we can leverage that into an overpay. Ideally it's for #3 + #18 + F1, but I can see that F1 being #12 instead.

They key is that both us and GWS don't need any other teams involved to get this done.

Making it a "mega" deal literally only benefits Port, because they want to disguise the same garbage offer they started with.

 

[Shagga is all Class]

That isnt a strong hand in next years draft.

We need an extra pick at the pointy end to increase our chances of pick 1.

Trading out both JHF and pick 1 this year is the perfect opportunity.

How so?

We still get more picks if JHF wants to leave and our picks are based on ladder position.

If we are still bottom, we might get something from the AFL.

All I ever read, is Port get 3 players they want and any future pick we get from them is then diluted, along with other picks we gave away.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Yeah, maybe, there’s so many variables; let’s say we do the trade with GWS and we get 3, 12, 18/19 but Port can’t get 2 from West Coast done so we end up with 8, future 1st and something / someone. Perhaps we could package up 8 and 12 for 2 from West Coast would that work? I seriously don’t know it’s doing my head in!

I don't think JHF gone is a foregone conclusion.

Everything about the shambles of this trade negotiation suggests it was an impulsive decision from the Jason camp.

(sure there would have been secret discussions before then, but I suspect the decision wasn't made until the 11th hour)

I imagine Clarkson can be a pretty persuasive fellow when he wants to be, for players and parents alike.

 

[JGreezy]

And if we tell Port to go jump unless they get us a good player, and we just deal with GWS we get:

• 1 of Wardlaw, Sheezel and Tsatas
• a fun new project of trivial difficulty for someone of Clarko's talents (that's Jason)
• a young elite tall like Jefferson or Busslinger
• Hunter Clark

So, the difference is:

- Sheezel/Tsatas & Port's F1
or
- sooky bum & pick 12 in a weaker draft

I'd rather just move on from the sook. I don't want a year if him sooking around and ruining moral. Give me Sheezel and lets start getting 12 months of development into him.

 

[Agenda 21]

So, the difference is:

- Sheezel/Tsatas & Port's F1
or
- sooky bum & pick 12 in a weaker draft

I'd rather just move on from the sook. I don't want a year if him sooking around and ruining moral. Give me Sheezel and lets start getting 12 months of development into him.

If you can deal with BigFooty sooky c***s (I mean bums) all year, surely you can handle JHFSB?

 

[Shinboner1]

I don't think JHF gone is a foregone conclusion.

Everything about the shambles of this trade negotiation suggests it was an impulsive decision from the Jason camp.

(sure there would have been secret discussions before then, but I suspect the decision wasn't made until the 11th hour)

I imagine Clarkson can be a pretty persuasive fellow when he wants to be, for players and parents alike.

He's gotta go 100%.
Will be toxic all year. We don't need that shit.