Resource 2023 AFL Draft Discussion...

[jamesclean]

holy shit this is a tough watch. could've been 15 seconds not 15 minutes.

I'm not going to post the video .....unless you like crappola ....suffice to say his Draft Expert plans have collapsed after leaving BF

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[Velvet George]

holy s**t this is a tough watch. could've been 15 seconds not 15 minutes.

15 mins? Of what?

 

[jamesclean]

15 mins? Of what?

a horrific main character syndrome monologue?

 

[Dangerousfield]

I'm not going to post the video .....unless you like crappola ....suffice to say his Draft Expert plans have collapsed after leaving BF

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Nailed his flag to the mast on Casey Voss, more deflating than the Chinese spy balloon over the US of A

 

[Mostyn]

Nailed his flag to the mast on Casey Voss, more deflating than the Chinese spy balloon over the US of A

Also never learned to just tilt the camera down a little bit, so his face wasn't always stuck on the bottom of the frame like he's Ossie Ostrich

 

[pushintheback]

Round 5 Gather Round - Summit Sports and Recreation Park, Mount Barker on Saturday, April 15.

Will be a good opportunity to see this years top crop play live.

AFL Academy to feature during Gather Round

The 2023 AFL Academy will convene in South Australia for a training camp and match during Gather Round.

www.afl.com.au

 

[LoBu]

Famous names light up SANFL U18 testing

Familiar names featured atop the timing charts at the 2023 SANFL Under 18 preseason testing event, including father-son candidates.

central.rookieme.com

Good to see the younger Michalanney making a move, do you know what type of player he is?

On SM-F926B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Crow till I die]

Famous names light up SANFL U18 testing

Familiar names featured atop the timing charts at the 2023 SANFL Under 18 preseason testing event, including father-son candidates.

central.rookieme.com

I like that young welsh seems to have a good sprint speed - should be very helpful creating distance from his defender on the lead

 

[spenze]

I like that young welsh seems to have a good sprint speed - should be very helpful creating distance from his defender on the lead

2.92 is hell quick over 20, keep in mind when Usain Bolt ran 9.69 in the 100, his first 20 was 2.87

 

[StonesThrow]

Those sprint times are next to useless.

 

[Velvet George]

Those sprint times are next to useless.

Why? Surely it indicates whether you’ve got some speed or a slowish? And it would be better to have a better time than not?

 

[jbanger]

2.92 is hell quick over 20, keep in mind when Usain Bolt ran 9.69 in the 100, his first 20 was 2.87

Starting was his Achilles heel, slow as.

 

[StonesThrow]

Why? Surely it indicates whether you’ve got some speed or a slowish? And it would be better to have a better time than not?

Over the years I think it's been a poor indicator of game speed. I seems to correlate with some players but not others.

 

[StonesThrow]

As a reference point, Dangerfield ran 2.92. Rankine 2.93

A sample of players who I've seen play that ran 2.92 or better:

Jack Watts
Ryan Schoenmakers

Ryan Schoenmakers

Age

35

Ht

195cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.2

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.0

1star

James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

Aiden Corr
Andrew Swallow

Andrew Swallow

Age

38

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

2.9

3star

T

6.6

5star

CL

5.8

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.8

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.4

5star

Matt Deboer
Sam Reid

20

Sam Reid

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

Dusty
Billie Smedts

Billie Smedts

Age

33

Ht

190cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.9

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.1

4star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

Brad Moran

Brad Moran

Age

39

Ht

201cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

5.5

2star

HB

5.7

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

10.9

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.8

4star

HO

4.8

5star

There are definitely players sub 2.92 who are genuinely quick in the AFL, but you could have just watched a draft video to tell you that.

I just don't think it tells you anything you don't already know and in some cases it gives misleading results.

 

[BRL121]

As a reference point, Dangerfield ran 2.92. Rankine 2.93

List of players who I've seen play that ran 2.92 or better:

Jack Watts
Ryan Schoenmakers
James Sicily
Aiden Corr
Andrew Swallow
Matt Deboer
Sam Reid
Dusty
Billie Smedts
Brad Moran

There are definitely players sub 2.92 who are genuinely quick in the AFL, but you could have just watched a draft video to tell you that.

I just don't think it tells you anything you don't already know and in some cases it gives misleading results.

That's fascinating: a lot of those are tall. It looks like a long stride helps to get off the blocks fast.
Perhaps, they should do 50-m tests as well?

 

[StonesThrow]

No Shane McAdam?

No Will Hamill?

I'm happy to take payment and include every single player ever to test.

It wasn't an exhaustive list. It was a list of players who I don't consider quick having watch play.

Hamill was 2.91, which makes sense. He's quick of the mark and over distance.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

As a reference point, Dangerfield ran 2.92. Rankine 2.93

A sample of players who I've seen play that ran 2.92 or better:

Jack Watts
Ryan Schoenmakers
James Sicily
Aiden Corr
Andrew Swallow
Matt Deboer
Sam Reid
Dusty
Billie Smedts
Brad Moran

There are definitely players sub 2.92 who are genuinely quick in the AFL, but you could have just watched a draft video to tell you that.

I just don't think it tells you anything you don't already know and in some cases it gives misleading results.

The other points on this testing are ....A) the testing is straight-line running, which rarely happens in a match ....B) the testing is on a hardboard surface, instead of grass ....depending on gait & physical makeup, running on different surfaces does make a difference

 

[Crow till I die]

The other points on this testing are ....A) the testing is straight-line running, which rarely happens in a match ....B) the testing is on a hardboard surface, instead of grass ....depending on gait & physical makeup, running on different surfaces does make a difference

agreed, if they really wanted to get a feel for how fast a player is, have them do the testing in the middle of winter in the centre square at Norwood oval or Unley Oval

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

agreed, if they really wanted to get a feel for how fast a player is, have them do the testing in the middle of winter in the centre square at Norwood oval or Unley Oval

they already do by watching them play.

testing needs to be on a hardcourt for consistency

 

[Crow till I die]

they already do by watching them play.

testing needs to be on a hardcourt for consistency

I know that, it was said tongue in cheek as if you can run fast on Unley Oval in the wet bog, you can run fast anywhere

 

[dogs105]

2.92 is hell quick over 20, keep in mind when Usain Bolt ran 9.69 in the 100, his first 20 was 2.87

His 60 to 80 was 1.61 ... wow!

 

[DJ75]

The other points on this testing are ....A) the testing is straight-line running, which rarely happens in a match ....B) the testing is on a hardboard surface, instead of grass ....depending on gait & physical makeup, running on different surfaces does make a difference

Very true.
My lad looks agile and coordinated on a basketball court. Have him run on grass and he looks like a new born giraffe.

 

[spenze]

His 60 to 80 was 1.61 ... wow!

Yeah, I was going to link a vid of the race, he was third at 20 metres and first by a couple of metres by 50...it would have been soul destroying as a competitor, in less than 3 seconds you went from being "I've got him covered" to "geez, he's going to lap me"

 

[bigman]

Anyone know about this 207cm player from a basketball background - Taylor Goad - who can run 2.92sec and is built like a brick shithouse from SA.

Has not played any AFL yet but all clubs are keen according to report on 5AA.

Is he available as a category B player or does he need to be older than 18 to qualify?

Looks like he will play for South Adelaide this year, which would mean he would need to go through the draft as soon as plays one game

 

[spenze]

Anyone know about this 207cm player from a basketball background - Taylor G0oad - who can run 2.92sec and is built like a brick shithouse from SA.

Has not played any AFL yet but all clubs are keen according to report on 5AA.

Is he available as a category B player or does he need to be older than 18 to qualify?

Looks like he will play for SA this year.

Are we allowed 3 cat Bs?