Injury 2023 injury thread

[Baudolino]

I hate it when they don't talk. When they talk, I hate that too.

Mindlessly complaining about everything ftw.

 

[Play it Sam]

How stiff are we? No pun intended but face/nose, eye and testicle are not your garden variety damage areas really.
The only other AFL players similarly injured:

Rampe (SS) neck
Jones (WC) nose
Zurhaar (NM) face -
North are managing 14 injuries BTW, not far off WC @ 16, Swans @11, GWS @ 11

And they are all paying a price- hardly competitive teams so far.
At least we are still riding a whisper of hope.

EDIT: And Ess with 12 if it makes you feel any better, granted not premiership players

 

[catsfootyfan89]

I didn't even realize Max was out with surgery. We just can't catch a ****ing break this season...

 

[Gee Class Loco]

At this point I unironically think that making the eight would be a great effort from here. It looks like 12-11 might be enough to make it this year so we might be able to do it. Will be tough though given our next four games:

GWS (H)
WBD (A)
PORT (A)
MELB (H)

I would bite your hand off for a 2-2 record from that fixture. At least it would give us a shot at finals.

GWS is a 50-50.
Bulldogs will be a hard task.
But Port & Melb will be an easier task with possibly Danger/Guthrie/Holmes/Bowes/Stanley back in the side.
The return from the bye vs Port in Adelaide will be the key to our run home.
** Lucky we have an easy 3 game stretch after that... will give us 3-0 run which might right the ship if indeed things don't go our way.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Nor Jhye. Listed as “medium term” but hearing it could end up being “long term” depending on whether they try and “nip it” (surgery) or manage it and see how it goes (and if not right nip it later!).

Clark is out for a couple of months. Could be more.

GWS is a 50-50.
Bulldogs will be a hard task.
But Port & Melb will be an easier task with possibly Danger/Guthrie/Holmes/Bowes/Stanley back in the side.
The return from the bye vs Port in Adelaide will be the key to our run home.
** Lucky we have an easy 3 game stretch after that... will give us 3-0 run which might right the ship if indeed things don't go our way.

Both Stanley and Holmes won't play until at least round 16.

 

[Stokey]

Can we update the thread to not say Injury. According to the Cats website no-one is injured. Some are just suffering from a lack of health.

 

[Zuta]

Can't keep up with this Josh Gabelich, today's in the mix article he is claiming Danger to be a chance yet last night in the injury list article he said he won't play this week...which one is it Josh!

 

[Grimoz]

Oh god Clark out for a couple of months too, this year can gtfo, we will be playing mids out of the GFL soon!!!

Cats scratched: Prized pick, young gun sidelined in double blow

Jhye Clark is set for a lengthy stint on the sidelines with a stress reaction in his foot

www.afl.com.au

 

[cats_09]

Oh god Clark out for a couple of months too, this year can gtfo, we will be playing mids out of the GFL soon!!!

Cats scratched: Prized pick, young gun sidelined in double blow

Jhye Clark is set for a lengthy stint on the sidelines with a stress reaction in his foot

www.afl.com.au

Thinking that was expected after last week's news though

 

[goyoucatters]

Im really not sure what hes been doing for the last 6 months if hes only on the alter G now. Seems like slow progress.

Based on the information coming out of the club, he apparently hasn't existed on the GFC's list at all for what seems like forever. So maybe they really did just totally forget that he was at the Cattery.

I wonder if one of the property stewards stumbled upon Flynn while cleaning out one of the ancillary equipment rooms recently. And then started asking around if anyone recognised this young fellow at all. Anyway, glad they got it sorted out eventually and Kroeger can hopefully progress towards returning to the field this year. Thank heavens for #forthright, I guess.

And before anyone starts up with their protestations that there are some here who are never happy, it's actually really simple. Just one proper mention of Flynn's injury status at the start of the season ('He's coming from a long way back, don't expect to see him any time soon.'), along with actually registering his name on the injury list each week, would have been absolutely adequate. And actually respectful to a young man who actually is alive and on an AFL list, despite the club's repeated intimations to the contrary.

 

[cats_09]

Based on the information coming out of the club, he apparently hasn't existed on the GFC's list at all for what seems like forever. So maybe they really did just totally forget that he was at the Cattery.

I wonder if one of the property stewards stumbled upon Flynn while cleaning out one of the ancillary equipment rooms recently. And then started asking around if anyone recognised this young fellow at all. Anyway, glad they got it sorted out eventually and Kroeger can hopefully progress towards returning to the field this year. Thank heavens for #forthright, I guess.

And before anyone starts up with their protestations that there are some here who are never happy, it's actually really simple. Just one proper mention of Flynn's injury status at the start of the season ('He's coming from a long way back, don't expect to see him any time soon.'), along with actually registering his name on the injury list each week, would have been absolutely adequate. And actually respectful to a young man who actually is alive and on an AFL list, despite the club's continued intimations to the contrary.

Early season he was mentioned as out following hip surgery back in December

And like majority of the long term injuries this year, they haven't presented weekly updates as there's often no new information. And considering the difficulties he's reportedly been going through in his recovery, maybe keeping his name out of the weekly updates was about respect & something Flynn asked for while they worked through things

 

[goyoucatters]

Early season he was mentioned as out following hip surgery back in December

And like majority of the long term injuries this year, they haven't presented weekly updates as there's often no new information. And considering the difficulties he's reportedly been going through in his recovery, maybe keeping his name out of the weekly updates was about respect & something Flynn asked for while they worked through things

I keep hearing this line about players supposedly asking for their names to be kept out of injury updates. Yet it doesn't happen like this at any other club in the competition. And I seriously believe you're unlikely to cope with the pressure of AFL footy if you can't cope with your name appearing on what is supposed to be a comprehensive injury list each week. If he's not facing up to the reality that he's injured and it's a challenging time for his AFL dream, suppressing his name from being recorded anywhere is really not going to help at all.

There doesn't need to be a Lloyd 'update' (if that's what you can call them) on Flynn's recovery along the way, if there's no new information. But omitting his name completely from any club information updates for weeks/months at time is just nonsensical to me. It gives the appearance of being dismissive of both him and the supporter base, for what I believe to be no meaningful advantage whatsoever.

 

[cats_09]

I keep hearing this line about players supposedly asking for their names to be kept out of injury updates. Yet it doesn't happen like this at any other club in the competition. And I seriously believe you're unlikely to cope with the pressure of AFL footy if you can't cope with your name appearing on what is supposed to be a comprehensive injury list each week. If he's not facing up to the reality that he's injured and it's a challenging time for his AFL dream, suppressing his name from being recorded anywhere is really not going to help at all.

There doesn't need to be a Lloyd 'update' (if that's what you can call them) on Flynn's recovery along the way, if there's no new information. But omitting his name completely from any club information updates for weeks/months at time is just nonsensical to me. It gives the appearance of being dismissive of both him and the supporter base, for what I believe to be no meaningful advantage whatsoever.

Who said anything about the bolded - seems a pretty big leap, especially as it hasn't been suppressed and he has been listed as injured

But I'd think for a 19yr old who's dealing with potentially significant injury concerns, where a return to football sounds a long way away, that affording them privacy while working through things shouldn't be hard to ask

 

[goyoucatters]

Who said anything about the bolded - seems a pretty big leap, especially as it hasn't been suppressed and he has been listed as injured

Could be wrong, of course. But I think his first time on the published injury list since the start of the actual season was this week. That's just pathetic in my view.

 

[Cataholic]

Who said anything about the bolded - seems a pretty big leap, especially as it hasn't been suppressed and he has been listed as injured

But I'd think for a 19yr old who's dealing with potentially significant injury concerns, where a return to football sounds a long way away, that affording them privacy while working through things shouldn't be hard to ask

I agree with goyoucatters here.......

I just don't see the harm in acknowledging his existence by including him on our injury list.....it only has to say 'hip' and 'tbc'......it doesn't have to include minute detail.

To exclude him - as if he's disappeared into a black hole - just seems odd.

 

[Cataholic]

Could be wrong, of course. But I think his first time on the published injury list since the start of the actual season was this week. That's just pathetic in my view.

The club seems to have a belief that pulling the proverbial 'late change', and being vague on injuries / timeframes, somehow gives them a strategic edge on everyone else.

I don't get that, and they stand out as the No. 1 practitioners imo.

 

[goyoucatters]

To exclude him - as if he's disappeared into a black hole - just seems odd.

The Cowan vibes are strong...

#forthright

 

[catempire]

Early season he was mentioned as out following hip surgery back in December

And like majority of the long term injuries this year, they haven't presented weekly updates as there's often no new information. And considering the difficulties he's reportedly been going through in his recovery, maybe keeping his name out of the weekly updates was about respect & something Flynn asked for while they worked through things

He wasn’t even on the injury list as TBC or “Long term”. It’s not possible to hide the fact that a player on the list is nowhere to be seen.

 

[FredLeDeux]

He wasn’t even on the injury list as TBC or “Long term”. It’s not possible to hide the fact that a player on the list is nowhere to be seen.

Lloydie just thought we'd cleared him to Collingwood.

 

[cats_09]

This is from Lloyd talking to the media in March after our round 2 match:

Youngsters James Willis and Flynn Kroeger will continue to build up their fitness levels after both having hip surgeries in December.

Both in the second year on Geelong’s list, Willis and Kroeger had their 2022 campaigns hit by injury and are yet to get a good run at game time in the hoops.

“With both we are looking at the bigger picture,” Lloyd said.


- Willis was able to progress through his rehab and is now back playing. Things seem a lot more serious for Kroeger who wasn't able to step up his involvement at training involvement, and sounds like his hip issues are more serious than initially expected

 

[goyoucatters]

This is from Lloyd talking to the media in March after our round 2 match:

Youngsters James Willis and Flynn Kroeger will continue to build up their fitness levels after both having hip surgeries in December.

Both in the second year on Geelong’s list, Willis and Kroeger had their 2022 campaigns hit by injury and are yet to get a good run at game time in the hoops.

“With both we are looking at the bigger picture,” Lloyd said.


- Willis was able to progress through his rehab and is now back playing. Things seem a lot more serious for Kroeger who wasn't able to step up his involvement at training involvement, and sounds like his hip issues are more serious than initially expected

So it's good enough to speak his name back then, and yet supposedly his name then doesn't appear on the injury list from week to week because it might be damaging to his mental health. Just seems wildly inconsistent and arbitrary to me.

 

[goyoucatters]

He wasn’t even on the injury list as TBC or “Long term”. It’s not possible to hide the fact that a player on the list is nowhere to be seen.

I think it's clear that the club would beg to differ on this point.

#forthright

 

[catempire]

I think it's clear that the club would beg to differ on this point.

#forthright

It’s a variation on “If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear it…”

 

[Grimoz]

Will the media finally admit that we have injuries issues or will they continue with the narrative of teams that are beating us causing an "upset"

 

[cats_09]

Will the media finally admit that we have injuries issues or will they continue with the narrative of teams that are beating us causing an "upset"

7 news seemed to acknowledge our injuries last night, or at least those to our midfield: