Review 2023 National Draft Review Thread II [McKercher, Z.Duursma, Goad, W.Dawson, Hardeman, Maley]

[shintemaster]

I’d say don’t judge a man until you’ve walked a mile in his shoes…. But I don’t think any of us want his shoes to walk in after that…

Squelch.

 

[shintemaster]

We won't be able to address all the holes on the list in one draft period. I'd prioritize at least one defender out of Murphy/Shoenmaker/Dawson in this draft and one key forward like Archer Reid/Logan Morris (if no Caddy on trade-up). A defender with good closing speed is probably a glaring need as well.

Agree, we won't, but I suspect some of those holes are already filled - we just haven't seen them in full flight. Next year I'm expecting improvement and consolidation. We should be wary of reaching outside talent this year and assess with a full proper year under the new coach and the last of the previous era moved on.

 

[geelongrecruit5]

Agree, we won't, but I suspect some of those holes are already filled - we just haven't seen them in full flight. Next year I'm expecting improvement and consolidation. We should be wary of reaching outside talent this year and assess with a full proper year under the new coach and the last of the previous era moved on.

North definitely in need of a defender first and foremost.

 

[LB2Snake]

North definitely in need of a defender first and foremost.

yeah we def need a defender, prob explains why we are trying to combine our 3 teens pics

 

[krakouers]

Gee Cal had a mare that draft.

apollo_creed reminded me that he did have one draft where he admitted it was a howler
Mostly he is pretty good for just that pre draft call...

He wasnt the only one though, a couple of phantoms were very wrong, Phillips we reached for which then threw out more than a few picks

 

[LB2Snake]

So this is the latest from a WC supporter. *Massive club BTW, huge, the biggest and bestest.

This is the crux of the trade

North in: 1, 11
North out: 2, 3

Melb in: 3
Melb out: 6, 11

WCE in: 2, 6
WCE out: 1

I still think it's unnecessary for us to do something like this and hope Brady feels the same. I wouldn't let 2 AND 3 go for anything resembling this. Still feel we hold all the cards, if a trade is to be done, and if they want to take another club's deal they 100% should. I certainly don't want us sliding back to pick 11, crazy.

I also think, on the night, we can slide from 3 to 4 if we really want, with something enticing coming our way. Depends who we really want and who the hawks want.

 

[The Nostradamus]

So this is the latest from a WC supporter. *Massive club BTW, huge, the biggest and bestest.

This is the crux of the trade

North in: 1, 11
North out: 2, 3

Melb in: 3
Melb out: 6, 11

WCE in: 2, 6
WCE out: 1

I still think it's unnecessary for us to do something like this and hope Brady feels the same. I wouldn't let 2 AND 3 go for anything resembling this. Still feel we hold all the cards, if a trade is to be done, and if they want to take another club's deal they 100% should. I certainly don't want us sliding back to pick 11, crazy.

I also think, on the night, we can slide from 3 to 4 if we really want, with something enticing coming our way. Depends who we really want and who the hawks want.

Overs for us
We would need to get 6
Eagles get 11

 

[Shinboner1]

Happy to just take 5 picks. 2 guns at picks 2 and 3, then 2-3 defenders and or a key forward. Grab best available with pick 57 or a dfa/state league.
Reckon whe could do well with 2 key backs and someone like scownenmaker. Build al 3 through the vfl system together and create real chemistry and competition for spots.
Would love for North to grab a decent cat B rookie or 2 also. Every club seems to be taking 200cm+ ex basketballers.

 

[Samsquanch]

Happy to just take 5 picks. 2 guns at picks 2 and 3, then 2-3 defenders and or a key forward. Grab best available with pick 57 or a dfa/state league.
Reckon whe could do well with 2 key backs and someone like scownenmaker. Build al 3 through the vfl system together and create real chemistry and competition for spots.
Would love for North to grab a decent cat B rookie or 2 also. Every club seems to be taking 200cm+ ex basketballers.

Mark Lisle likes this.

 

[Shinboner1]

Mark Lisle likes this.

Just for context, who is this? Lol

 

[Samsquanch]

Just for context, who is this? Lol

I could google him for you if you like.

Mark Lisle - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[krakouers]

2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The draft is a month away! Here's how the first round could unfold👇

www.zerohanger.com

Pick 3 - North Melbourne: Zane Duursma​

Position: Midfielder-Forward
Height: 189cm
Weight: 79kg
State: Victoria
Club: Foster

North Melbourne will have an enticing decision to make when they're on the clock given they hold a pair of successive selections in the opening four slots.

Their opening selection could be to add Duursma to their emerging list, with the brother of new Essendon recruit Xavier and Port Adelaide's Yasmin an astute pickup for a side likely wanting to bolster its attack while also adding some midfielder support.

Duursma's best position is at half-forward, where he can work up the ground and impact the engine room before flicking the switch and being a lethal presence in attack.

Another to consider: Dan Curtin

Pick 4 - North Melbourne: Colby McKercher​

Position: Midfielder
Height: 180cm
Weight: 76kg
State: Tasmania
Club: Launceston

The Roos' second selection will likely come down to either McKercher or Western Australia's Dan Curtin. While the Roos have been closely tied to the latter, there's every chance they roll the dice on McKercher in a scenario that seems them select the best talent still available.

Although they're home to the likes of Luke Davies-Uniacke, George Wardlaw, Jy Simpkin and Tarryn Thomas, the Kangaroos add a new edge to their midfield mix with the addition of McKercher, who has pace to burn and a match-winning attitude like no other in this year's count.

His move into Alastair Clarkson's midfield mix would give the Roos some exciting excite run, much like a Chad Warner or Errol Gulden at Sydney, while allowing Rising Star winner Harry Sheezel to play across half-back or in the forward line.

Another to consider: Ryley Sanders

Pick 20 - North Melbourne: Lance Collard​

Position: Forward
Height: 180cm
Weight: 65kg
State: Western Australia
Club: North Beach

What's West Coast's loss will be North Melbourne's gain as the Roos bid for the Eagles Next Generation Academy talent Lance Collard in the opening round and prior to the Pick 40 cutoff for matched NGA bids.

Collard steadily built up stocks this year at the WAFL Colts level with Subiaco, booting 32 goals from his 11 games. But it would be his combine testing that pushed him further up the rankings.

The pacey small forward took out the quickest time for the agility test this month ahead of Lions teammate Koltyn Tholstrup and would also finish with the fourth-best time for the 20m sprint.

Another to consider: George Stevens

Pick 22 - North Melbourne: Archer Reid​

Position: Key Forward
Height: 203cm
Weight: 94kg
State: Victoria
Club: Inverloch-Kongwak

A key area of focus for North Melbourne at this year's draft will be adding to their key forward depth, with Reid likely the leading tall attacker on offer at the back-end of the opening round.

The aforementioned Caddy is perhaps the only available key forward ahead of Reid, with Walter and Croft tied to the Suns and Dogs respectively.

Reid, the younger brother of Essendon defender Zach, came into the season as a potential top 10 prospect and was still able to piece together a good year, booting 16 goals for Gippsland in a forward line shared with Zane Duursma and West Coast mid-season recruit Ryan Maric.

Another to consider: Logan Morris

Pick 23 - North Melbourne: Archie Roberts​

Position: Defender
Height: 184cm
Weight: 79kg
State: Victoria
Club: Hampton Rovers

Roberts earned a spot at half-back in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year following his strong season in Sandringham's backline, averaging over 20 disposals from his nine appearances in 2023.

Also able to push up the field and work through midfield or in the forward line, Roberts knows how to win the ball and has the tank to see out games in comfort.

With North Melbourne parting with defensive outlets Aaron Hall, Zack Ziebell and Daniel Howe, coupled with Harry Sheezel's potential move into the forward line, Roberts could find a home at half-back at Arden Street.

Another to consider: Arie Schoenmaker

 

[Shinboner1]

2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The draft is a month away! Here's how the first round could unfold👇

www.zerohanger.com

Pick 3 - North Melbourne: Zane Duursma​

Position: Midfielder-Forward
Height: 189cm
Weight: 79kg
State: Victoria
Club: Foster

North Melbourne will have an enticing decision to make when they're on the clock given they hold a pair of successive selections in the opening four slots.

Their opening selection could be to add Duursma to their emerging list, with the brother of new Essendon recruit Xavier and Port Adelaide's Yasmin an astute pickup for a side likely wanting to bolster its attack while also adding some midfielder support.

Duursma's best position is at half-forward, where he can work up the ground and impact the engine room before flicking the switch and being a lethal presence in attack.

Another to consider: Dan Curtin

Pick 4 - North Melbourne: Colby McKercher​

Position: Midfielder
Height: 180cm
Weight: 76kg
State: Tasmania
Club: Launceston

The Roos' second selection will likely come down to either McKercher or Western Australia's Dan Curtin. While the Roos have been closely tied to the latter, there's every chance they roll the dice on McKercher in a scenario that seems them select the best talent still available.

Although they're home to the likes of Luke Davies-Uniacke, George Wardlaw, Jy Simpkin and Tarryn Thomas, the Kangaroos add a new edge to their midfield mix with the addition of McKercher, who has pace to burn and a match-winning attitude like no other in this year's count.

His move into Alastair Clarkson's midfield mix would give the Roos some exciting excite run, much like a Chad Warner or Errol Gulden at Sydney, while allowing Rising Star winner Harry Sheezel to play across half-back or in the forward line.

Another to consider: Ryley Sanders

Pick 20 - North Melbourne: Lance Collard​

Position: Forward
Height: 180cm
Weight: 65kg
State: Western Australia
Club: North Beach

What's West Coast's loss will be North Melbourne's gain as the Roos bid for the Eagles Next Generation Academy talent Lance Collard in the opening round and prior to the Pick 40 cutoff for matched NGA bids.

Collard steadily built up stocks this year at the WAFL Colts level with Subiaco, booting 32 goals from his 11 games. But it would be his combine testing that pushed him further up the rankings.

The pacey small forward took out the quickest time for the agility test this month ahead of Lions teammate Koltyn Tholstrup and would also finish with the fourth-best time for the 20m sprint.

Another to consider: George Stevens

Pick 22 - North Melbourne: Archer Reid​

Position: Key Forward
Height: 203cm
Weight: 94kg
State: Victoria
Club: Inverloch-Kongwak

A key area of focus for North Melbourne at this year's draft will be adding to their key forward depth, with Reid likely the leading tall attacker on offer at the back-end of the opening round.

The aforementioned Caddy is perhaps the only available key forward ahead of Reid, with Walter and Croft tied to the Suns and Dogs respectively.

Reid, the younger brother of Essendon defender Zach, came into the season as a potential top 10 prospect and was still able to piece together a good year, booting 16 goals for Gippsland in a forward line shared with Zane Duursma and West Coast mid-season recruit Ryan Maric.

Another to consider: Logan Morris

Pick 23 - North Melbourne: Archie Roberts​

Position: Defender
Height: 184cm
Weight: 79kg
State: Victoria
Club: Hampton Rovers

Roberts earned a spot at half-back in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year following his strong season in Sandringham's backline, averaging over 20 disposals from his nine appearances in 2023.

Also able to push up the field and work through midfield or in the forward line, Roberts knows how to win the ball and has the tank to see out games in comfort.

With North Melbourne parting with defensive outlets Aaron Hall, Zack Ziebell and Daniel Howe, coupled with Harry Sheezel's potential move into the forward line, Roberts could find a home at half-back at Arden Street.

Another to consider: Arie Schoenmaker

Seems like a really good, well rounded list of players. It's almost a shame we don't have another pick in the early 20s, would love a key back/ruck.
Majority of the holes in the side would be filled at that point imo.

 

[Wild Bill]

Hollands rather than Phillips:

Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Draft: Top 30, late picks, your club's whispers

To be fair that was a heavy Covid lock down year. A lot of the kids missed a lot of footy. It’s shaping up as one of the worst drafts of all time.

His late Nov phantom is usually a very good guide - especially the top 10.

 

[My Left Foote]

So this is the latest from a WC supporter. *Massive club BTW, huge, the biggest and bestest.

This is the crux of the trade

North in: 1, 11
North out: 2, 3

Melb in: 3
Melb out: 6, 11

WCE in: 2, 6
WCE out: 1

This is so bad. When will these idiots realise we’re not giving up 2 & 3. FFS.

 

[Passmore]

 

[Liam Boy]

So this is the latest from a WC supporter. *Massive club BTW, huge, the biggest and bestest.

This is the crux of the trade

North in: 1, 11
North out: 2, 3

Melb in: 3
Melb out: 6, 11

WCE in: 2, 6
WCE out: 1

I still think it's unnecessary for us to do something like this and hope Brady feels the same. I wouldn't let 2 AND 3 go for anything resembling this. Still feel we hold all the cards, if a trade is to be done, and if they want to take another club's deal they 100% should. I certainly don't want us sliding back to pick 11, crazy.

I also think, on the night, we can slide from 3 to 4 if we really want, with something enticing coming our way. Depends who we really want and who the hawks want.

I'd do this if we get 6 and they get 11. That's closer to worth it for us.

 

[kool kangas]

So this is the latest from a WC supporter. *Massive club BTW, huge, the biggest and bestest.

This is the crux of the trade

North in: 1, 11
North out: 2, 3

Melb in: 3
Melb out: 6, 11

WCE in: 2, 6
WCE out: 1

I still think it's unnecessary for us to do something like this and hope Brady feels the same. I wouldn't let 2 AND 3 go for anything resembling this. Still feel we hold all the cards, if a trade is to be done, and if they want to take another club's deal they 100% should. I certainly don't want us sliding back to pick 11, crazy.

I also think, on the night, we can slide from 3 to 4 if we really want, with something enticing coming our way. Depends who we really want and who the hawks want.

Why would Melbourne help us get pick #1 when they are also after it?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Why would Melbourne help us get pick #1 when they are also after it?

They know eagles will only trade 1 for 2

So they help us get 1 so they get 3

 

[Passmore]

Why would Melbourne help us get pick #1 when they are also after it?

They’re all high?

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

2023 AFL Mock Draft: Picks 1-27 (first edition)

The draft is a month away! Here's how the first round could unfold👇

www.zerohanger.com

Pick 3 - North Melbourne: Zane Duursma​

Position: Midfielder-Forward
Height: 189cm
Weight: 79kg
State: Victoria
Club: Foster

North Melbourne will have an enticing decision to make when they're on the clock given they hold a pair of successive selections in the opening four slots.

Their opening selection could be to add Duursma to their emerging list, with the brother of new Essendon recruit Xavier and Port Adelaide's Yasmin an astute pickup for a side likely wanting to bolster its attack while also adding some midfielder support.

Duursma's best position is at half-forward, where he can work up the ground and impact the engine room before flicking the switch and being a lethal presence in attack.

Another to consider: Dan Curtin

Pick 4 - North Melbourne: Colby McKercher​

Position: Midfielder
Height: 180cm
Weight: 76kg
State: Tasmania
Club: Launceston

The Roos' second selection will likely come down to either McKercher or Western Australia's Dan Curtin. While the Roos have been closely tied to the latter, there's every chance they roll the dice on McKercher in a scenario that seems them select the best talent still available.

Although they're home to the likes of Luke Davies-Uniacke, George Wardlaw, Jy Simpkin and Tarryn Thomas, the Kangaroos add a new edge to their midfield mix with the addition of McKercher, who has pace to burn and a match-winning attitude like no other in this year's count.

His move into Alastair Clarkson's midfield mix would give the Roos some exciting excite run, much like a Chad Warner or Errol Gulden at Sydney, while allowing Rising Star winner Harry Sheezel to play across half-back or in the forward line.

Another to consider: Ryley Sanders

Pick 20 - North Melbourne: Lance Collard​

Position: Forward
Height: 180cm
Weight: 65kg
State: Western Australia
Club: North Beach

What's West Coast's loss will be North Melbourne's gain as the Roos bid for the Eagles Next Generation Academy talent Lance Collard in the opening round and prior to the Pick 40 cutoff for matched NGA bids.

Collard steadily built up stocks this year at the WAFL Colts level with Subiaco, booting 32 goals from his 11 games. But it would be his combine testing that pushed him further up the rankings.

The pacey small forward took out the quickest time for the agility test this month ahead of Lions teammate Koltyn Tholstrup and would also finish with the fourth-best time for the 20m sprint.

Another to consider: George Stevens

Pick 22 - North Melbourne: Archer Reid​

Position: Key Forward
Height: 203cm
Weight: 94kg
State: Victoria
Club: Inverloch-Kongwak

A key area of focus for North Melbourne at this year's draft will be adding to their key forward depth, with Reid likely the leading tall attacker on offer at the back-end of the opening round.

The aforementioned Caddy is perhaps the only available key forward ahead of Reid, with Walter and Croft tied to the Suns and Dogs respectively.

Reid, the younger brother of Essendon defender Zach, came into the season as a potential top 10 prospect and was still able to piece together a good year, booting 16 goals for Gippsland in a forward line shared with Zane Duursma and West Coast mid-season recruit Ryan Maric.

Another to consider: Logan Morris

Pick 23 - North Melbourne: Archie Roberts​

Position: Defender
Height: 184cm
Weight: 79kg
State: Victoria
Club: Hampton Rovers

Roberts earned a spot at half-back in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year following his strong season in Sandringham's backline, averaging over 20 disposals from his nine appearances in 2023.

Also able to push up the field and work through midfield or in the forward line, Roberts knows how to win the ball and has the tank to see out games in comfort.

With North Melbourne parting with defensive outlets Aaron Hall, Zack Ziebell and Daniel Howe, coupled with Harry Sheezel's potential move into the forward line, Roberts could find a home at half-back at Arden Street.

Another to consider: Arie Schoenmaker

Replace Reid with Green and Roberts with Schoenmaker and this would be a pretty decent draft haul.

 

[kool kangas]

They know eagles will only trade 1 for 2

So they help us get 1 so they get 3

Our we could go after the cats or GWS first with some our picks 15, 17 18 and leave the Dees out..Finishing with 1 and 3 compared to 1 and 11...

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Considering they shot down the Hawks and that's the next team holding a pick after us, they know, they know.

This is so often overlooked by West Coast supporters. Hawthorn offered an incredible deal really for pick 1. West Coast rejected it because if they trade pick 1, they want a player in the top 3. This does not mean that North have to pay more than Hawthorn did or include our F1, just satisfy West Coasts need for a top 3 pick.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

This is so often overlooked by West Coast supporters. Hawthorn offered an incredible deal really for pick 1. West Coast rejected it because if they trade pick 1, they want a player in the top 3. This does not mean that North have to pay more than Hawthorn did or include our F1, just satisfy West Coasts need for a top 3 pick.

I think justifiably if they can’t have their first preference and we buy it they should get their second. What goes with it is key though as to whether we bother, having a nice hand anyway.

 

[JGreezy]

North definitely in need of a defender first and foremost.

Logue, Corr, Comben, Pink, Dawson, Nyuon... maybe Phillips or a rookie pick

If we draft a KPD then they won't be playing that role in 2024. A developing KPD would be nice but can be added next year, too.