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Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.
  • Mac Andrew
  • Hunter Clark
  • Zac Fisher
  • Sam Flanders
  • Mitch Georgiades
  • Liam Henry
  • Dougal Howard
  • Lewis Melican
  • Jack Silvagni
  • Dylan Stephens
  • Adam Tomlinson
 
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Bit of a tangent. He's an absolute knob but I wouldn't mind having Jack Silvagni on the list on cheap money as depth or to plug a hole in defence next season. I'll probably be crucified for this haha
 
It feels like for sure we're in that race. He's a good sort to bring in at this stage of the process. Next year sits about where the Lions were when they started bringing in the Neale types... if we get Henry over then that's potentially the Cameron move.
The Brisbane analogy is a good one. Good drafting (Andrews, McLuggage, Rayner to name some), with: good management of their Academy advantage (Hipwood); together with some brilliant and brave trades (Neale, Cameron). It will be interesting to see if we can manage something like that successful strategy. I think we're now doing ok with the draft (LDU, Simpkin, Phillips, Powell), and it will be interesting too see if we can win from the bold trading, which we seem prepared to be with McKay.
 
Bit of a tangent. He's an absolute knob but I wouldn't mind having Jack Silvagni on the list on cheap money as depth or to plug a hole in defence next season. I'll probably be crucified for this haha
I agree. I think there are a few at Carlton who would be good in a different environment Fisher Dow and Silvagni

*as role players
 
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Instagram pages reporting that we're back hard into Hunter clark.
Has anyone heard anything?
 

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Can’t believe King Corey is still resisting the cherished offseason ritual where Hunter Clark gets named in North’s trade thread hit list.
 

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The Brisbane analogy is a good one. Good drafting (Andrews, McLuggage, Rayner to name some), with: good management of their Academy advantage (Hipwood); together with some brilliant and brave trades (Neale, Cameron). It will be interesting to see if we can manage something like that successful strategy. I think we're now doing ok with the draft (LDU, Simpkin, Phillips, Powell), and it will be interesting too see if we can win from the bold trading, which we seem prepared to be with McKay.

They seemed to have a bunch of players leave a long while ago. Polec, Docherty…sure there were others. It’d be interesting to know what impact they got from those trades.
 
Summary of trade news from The West... featuring Darcy, Henry and pick 1 trades.

Thought it might be relevant given someone said Darcy had dined with Clarko a while back, he's obviously keen on Henry, and it seems to reinforce that 2+16 for 1 is a serious possibility.

Fremantle ruckman Sean Darcy could be on the trade table in October, with the 25-year-old stalling discussions to commit beyond his existing contract.

Dockers powerbrokers are determined to avoid Darcy, who is contracted until the end of 2024, heading into free agency next year and closer to a departure to continue his career back in his home state of Victoria.

Apparently, there is a new offer to the 2021 Doig medallist of about $800,000 a year - well under Luke Jackson’s contract numbers.

EGO will play a part in Darcy deciding to stay or go.

Darcy will be a restricted free agent and will attract whopping deals well over anything he is currently on at Fremantle.
Despite his injury troubles from his heavy workload and bash and crash ruck style, Darcy is tipped to be in an earning range of about $1.2 million a season from as early as next year.

Dockers officials need some answers from Darcy and a commitment to his plans for next season.

With Darcy and his management not ready to consider Fremantle’s now tabled offer, it is fuelling fears that he could walk out next month and ask for a trade.

Fremantle authorities then have to weigh up holding him to the final season of his contract next year, believed to be worth about $650,000.

Losing Darcy this year has appealing benefit for Fremantle. He continues to be linked to Geelong in the Cats’ chase for a recognised lead ruckman.
Fremantle would command Geelong’s first-round pick that sits inside the top 10, probably a player and even another later draft selection for releasing Darcy while still in contract.

South Fremantle product Shannon Neale, 21, could be part of a swap for Darcy and slot into the Dockers list as back-up ruck to Luke Jackson.

The confirmation of Jackson as a stand-alone lead ruckman while Darcy was sidelined further complicates Fremantle’s dilemma with their two big men.

It seems Dockers heavy-hitters are understandably concerned at the prospect of Darcy playing out next season with uncertainty swirling around his future.

It would be a significant distraction in plans for a resurgence back into serious finals calculations. If Darcy reached restricted free agency, Fremantle must match the deal from his destination club of choice or lose him without any fair trade in return. The Dockers must avoid that outcome.

Jackson was undisputed best-afield in successive games last month against Brisbane and then should have won a Glendinning-Allan medal for his outstanding western derby performance.

Jackson, 21, is fully capable of carrying the Dockers’ on-ball brigade almost single-handedly, leaving Fremantle in a quandary.

Darcy’s departure this year would guarantee Fremantle a hefty bargaining chip to get a crucial early draft selection in return and then pursue classy emerging ruck talent Mitchell Edwards from affiliate club Peel Thunder.

Jackson leading Fremantle’s ruck with support from an improving Josh Treacy and Edwards or Neale developing in the wings is an ideal strategy for the immediate to longer-term.

The immediate future for Liam Henry also remains a mystery, with the 21-year-old considering offers in the region of $500,000 to $600,000 per season for as much as four or five years from at least three Melbourne-based clubs, with Essendon said to be front-runners and Hawthorn not far away.

Henry could also cross to West Coast through the pre-season draft as an uncontracted player.

West Coast midfielder Elliot Yeo could be one casualty in a reassessment of playing personnel.

It has emerged from inside the Eagles that the injury-prone Yeo is tradeable goods after careful consideration to the immediate futures of veteran pair Jack Darling and Andrew Gaff.

Even before a final decision on coach Adam Simpson, it seems Eagles powerbrokers had elected to drop any thoughts of trading out Darling or Gaff.

Yeo, 29, now appears firmly under review. He still has considerable trade currency despite making it into just 37 games of a possible 83 over his past four injury-savaged seasons.

His trade value for West Coast runs cold at the end of his current contract next year, when Yeo will be an unrestricted free agent and could walk to a club of his choice.

A fit and healthy Yeo with his proven aggression around contests should appeal to any outfit on the edge of premiership potential.

West Coast’s salary cap is significantly lighter for next year with the retirements of Shannon Hurn, Luke Shuey and Nic Naitanui to clear up around $1.5m.

If Yeo left, it could clear another $850,000 for the Eagles to adequately contribute to any deal for Melbourne’s Brodie Grundy.

West Coast are in a powerful recruiting position with the coveted first draft pick in November.

Debate will rage in the club’s list management circles over whether to take highly-touted midfielder Harley Reid or trade the first draft pick for up to three other first-round selections.

North Melbourne sit second in the national draft order and, like every club in the business, want Reid.

Hitting North with demands for their pick 2 as well as the pick they already have from Port Adelaide for Jason Horne-Francis, is not unreasonable from West Coast recruiters.

That would give Eagles picks at 2, about 16 and starting round two at 20 or so.

Those spots might snare highly-regarded Claremont running defender Dan Curtin and then a couple of gifted midfielder-forwards in Zane Duursma from country Victoria and Subiaco young gun Koltyn Throlstrup.

Now that a future commitment to more rebuilding is to be headed by Simpson, it’s time to sire up some aggressive recruiting and list management.
 
random thought on a random morning.

how did brisbane lure charlie cameron and lachie neale over when they were woeful and how do we do that too.

wouldn't mind getting a couple of AA level players.
 

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random thought on a random morning.

how did brisbane lure charlie cameron and lachie neale over when they were woeful and how do we do that too.

wouldn't mind getting a couple of AA level players.
I remember watching an interview with the Brisbane CEO or someone outside the footy department around that time and they said when they got the news Neale was keen to come, even they thought it was a joke or they had heard wrong 😂
 
Summary of trade news from The West... featuring Darcy, Henry and pick 1 trades.

Thought it might be relevant given someone said Darcy had dined with Clarko a while back, he's obviously keen on Henry, and it seems to reinforce that 2+16 for 1 is a serious possibility.

Fremantle ruckman Sean Darcy could be on the trade table in October, with the 25-year-old stalling discussions to commit beyond his existing contract.

Dockers powerbrokers are determined to avoid Darcy, who is contracted until the end of 2024, heading into free agency next year and closer to a departure to continue his career back in his home state of Victoria.

Apparently, there is a new offer to the 2021 Doig medallist of about $800,000 a year - well under Luke Jackson’s contract numbers.

EGO will play a part in Darcy deciding to stay or go.

Darcy will be a restricted free agent and will attract whopping deals well over anything he is currently on at Fremantle.
Despite his injury troubles from his heavy workload and bash and crash ruck style, Darcy is tipped to be in an earning range of about $1.2 million a season from as early as next year.

Dockers officials need some answers from Darcy and a commitment to his plans for next season.

With Darcy and his management not ready to consider Fremantle’s now tabled offer, it is fuelling fears that he could walk out next month and ask for a trade.

Fremantle authorities then have to weigh up holding him to the final season of his contract next year, believed to be worth about $650,000.

Losing Darcy this year has appealing benefit for Fremantle. He continues to be linked to Geelong in the Cats’ chase for a recognised lead ruckman.
Fremantle would command Geelong’s first-round pick that sits inside the top 10, probably a player and even another later draft selection for releasing Darcy while still in contract.

South Fremantle product Shannon Neale, 21, could be part of a swap for Darcy and slot into the Dockers list as back-up ruck to Luke Jackson.

The confirmation of Jackson as a stand-alone lead ruckman while Darcy was sidelined further complicates Fremantle’s dilemma with their two big men.

It seems Dockers heavy-hitters are understandably concerned at the prospect of Darcy playing out next season with uncertainty swirling around his future.

It would be a significant distraction in plans for a resurgence back into serious finals calculations. If Darcy reached restricted free agency, Fremantle must match the deal from his destination club of choice or lose him without any fair trade in return. The Dockers must avoid that outcome.

Jackson was undisputed best-afield in successive games last month against Brisbane and then should have won a Glendinning-Allan medal for his outstanding western derby performance.

Jackson, 21, is fully capable of carrying the Dockers’ on-ball brigade almost single-handedly, leaving Fremantle in a quandary.

Darcy’s departure this year would guarantee Fremantle a hefty bargaining chip to get a crucial early draft selection in return and then pursue classy emerging ruck talent Mitchell Edwards from affiliate club Peel Thunder.

Jackson leading Fremantle’s ruck with support from an improving Josh Treacy and Edwards or Neale developing in the wings is an ideal strategy for the immediate to longer-term.

The immediate future for Liam Henry also remains a mystery, with the 21-year-old considering offers in the region of $500,000 to $600,000 per season for as much as four or five years from at least three Melbourne-based clubs, with Essendon said to be front-runners and Hawthorn not far away.

Henry could also cross to West Coast through the pre-season draft as an uncontracted player.

West Coast midfielder Elliot Yeo could be one casualty in a reassessment of playing personnel.

It has emerged from inside the Eagles that the injury-prone Yeo is tradeable goods after careful consideration to the immediate futures of veteran pair Jack Darling and Andrew Gaff.

Even before a final decision on coach Adam Simpson, it seems Eagles powerbrokers had elected to drop any thoughts of trading out Darling or Gaff.

Yeo, 29, now appears firmly under review. He still has considerable trade currency despite making it into just 37 games of a possible 83 over his past four injury-savaged seasons.

His trade value for West Coast runs cold at the end of his current contract next year, when Yeo will be an unrestricted free agent and could walk to a club of his choice.

A fit and healthy Yeo with his proven aggression around contests should appeal to any outfit on the edge of premiership potential.

West Coast’s salary cap is significantly lighter for next year with the retirements of Shannon Hurn, Luke Shuey and Nic Naitanui to clear up around $1.5m.

If Yeo left, it could clear another $850,000 for the Eagles to adequately contribute to any deal for Melbourne’s Brodie Grundy.

West Coast are in a powerful recruiting position with the coveted first draft pick in November.

Debate will rage in the club’s list management circles over whether to take highly-touted midfielder Harley Reid or trade the first draft pick for up to three other first-round selections.

North Melbourne sit second in the national draft order and, like every club in the business, want Reid.

Hitting North with demands for their pick 2 as well as the pick they already have from Port Adelaide for Jason Horne-Francis, is not unreasonable from West Coast recruiters.

That would give Eagles picks at 2, about 16 and starting round two at 20 or so.

Those spots might snare highly-regarded Claremont running defender Dan Curtin and then a couple of gifted midfielder-forwards in Zane Duursma from country Victoria and Subiaco young gun Koltyn Throlstrup.

Now that a future commitment to more rebuilding is to be headed by Simpson, it’s time to sire up some aggressive recruiting and list management.
Does Peter really think they’ll get Duursma with the Port pick:

“North Melbourne sit second in the national draft order and, like every club in the business, want Reid.

Hitting North with demands for their pick 2 as well as the pick they already have from Port Adelaide for Jason Horne-Francis, is not unreasonable from West Coast recruiters.

That would give Eagles picks at 2, about 16 and starting round two at 20 or so.

Those spots might snare highly-regarded Claremont running defender Dan Curtin and then a couple of gifted midfielder-forwards in Zane Duursma from country Victoria and Subiaco young gun Koltyn Throlstrup.”
 
Summary of trade news from The West... featuring Darcy, Henry and pick 1 trades.

Thought it might be relevant given someone said Darcy had dined with Clarko a while back, he's obviously keen on Henry, and it seems to reinforce that 2+16 for 1 is a serious possibility.

Fremantle ruckman Sean Darcy could be on the trade table in October, with the 25-year-old stalling discussions to commit beyond his existing contract.

Dockers powerbrokers are determined to avoid Darcy, who is contracted until the end of 2024, heading into free agency next year and closer to a departure to continue his career back in his home state of Victoria.

Apparently, there is a new offer to the 2021 Doig medallist of about $800,000 a year - well under Luke Jackson’s contract numbers.

EGO will play a part in Darcy deciding to stay or go.

Darcy will be a restricted free agent and will attract whopping deals well over anything he is currently on at Fremantle.
Despite his injury troubles from his heavy workload and bash and crash ruck style, Darcy is tipped to be in an earning range of about $1.2 million a season from as early as next year.

Dockers officials need some answers from Darcy and a commitment to his plans for next season.

With Darcy and his management not ready to consider Fremantle’s now tabled offer, it is fuelling fears that he could walk out next month and ask for a trade.

Fremantle authorities then have to weigh up holding him to the final season of his contract next year, believed to be worth about $650,000.

Losing Darcy this year has appealing benefit for Fremantle. He continues to be linked to Geelong in the Cats’ chase for a recognised lead ruckman.
Fremantle would command Geelong’s first-round pick that sits inside the top 10, probably a player and even another later draft selection for releasing Darcy while still in contract.

South Fremantle product Shannon Neale, 21, could be part of a swap for Darcy and slot into the Dockers list as back-up ruck to Luke Jackson.

The confirmation of Jackson as a stand-alone lead ruckman while Darcy was sidelined further complicates Fremantle’s dilemma with their two big men.

It seems Dockers heavy-hitters are understandably concerned at the prospect of Darcy playing out next season with uncertainty swirling around his future.

It would be a significant distraction in plans for a resurgence back into serious finals calculations. If Darcy reached restricted free agency, Fremantle must match the deal from his destination club of choice or lose him without any fair trade in return. The Dockers must avoid that outcome.

Jackson was undisputed best-afield in successive games last month against Brisbane and then should have won a Glendinning-Allan medal for his outstanding western derby performance.

Jackson, 21, is fully capable of carrying the Dockers’ on-ball brigade almost single-handedly, leaving Fremantle in a quandary.

Darcy’s departure this year would guarantee Fremantle a hefty bargaining chip to get a crucial early draft selection in return and then pursue classy emerging ruck talent Mitchell Edwards from affiliate club Peel Thunder.

Jackson leading Fremantle’s ruck with support from an improving Josh Treacy and Edwards or Neale developing in the wings is an ideal strategy for the immediate to longer-term.

The immediate future for Liam Henry also remains a mystery, with the 21-year-old considering offers in the region of $500,000 to $600,000 per season for as much as four or five years from at least three Melbourne-based clubs, with Essendon said to be front-runners and Hawthorn not far away.

Henry could also cross to West Coast through the pre-season draft as an uncontracted player.

West Coast midfielder Elliot Yeo could be one casualty in a reassessment of playing personnel.

It has emerged from inside the Eagles that the injury-prone Yeo is tradeable goods after careful consideration to the immediate futures of veteran pair Jack Darling and Andrew Gaff.

Even before a final decision on coach Adam Simpson, it seems Eagles powerbrokers had elected to drop any thoughts of trading out Darling or Gaff.

Yeo, 29, now appears firmly under review. He still has considerable trade currency despite making it into just 37 games of a possible 83 over his past four injury-savaged seasons.

His trade value for West Coast runs cold at the end of his current contract next year, when Yeo will be an unrestricted free agent and could walk to a club of his choice.

A fit and healthy Yeo with his proven aggression around contests should appeal to any outfit on the edge of premiership potential.

West Coast’s salary cap is significantly lighter for next year with the retirements of Shannon Hurn, Luke Shuey and Nic Naitanui to clear up around $1.5m.

If Yeo left, it could clear another $850,000 for the Eagles to adequately contribute to any deal for Melbourne’s Brodie Grundy.

West Coast are in a powerful recruiting position with the coveted first draft pick in November.

Debate will rage in the club’s list management circles over whether to take highly-touted midfielder Harley Reid or trade the first draft pick for up to three other first-round selections.

North Melbourne sit second in the national draft order and, like every club in the business, want Reid.

Hitting North with demands for their pick 2 as well as the pick they already have from Port Adelaide for Jason Horne-Francis, is not unreasonable from West Coast recruiters.

That would give Eagles picks at 2, about 16 and starting round two at 20 or so.

Those spots might snare highly-regarded Claremont running defender Dan Curtin and then a couple of gifted midfielder-forwards in Zane Duursma from country Victoria and Subiaco young gun Koltyn Throlstrup.

Now that a future commitment to more rebuilding is to be headed by Simpson, it’s time to sire up some aggressive recruiting and list management.
Did I read that right?
1.2 a season
Darcy will be a restricted free agent and will attract whopping deals well over anything he is currently on at Fremantle.
Despite his injury troubles from his heavy workload and bash and crash ruck style, Darcy is tipped to be in an earning range of about $1.2 million a season from as early as next year.
 
Summary of trade news from The West... featuring Darcy, Henry and pick 1 trades.

Thought it might be relevant given someone said Darcy had dined with Clarko a while back, he's obviously keen on Henry, and it seems to reinforce that 2+16 for 1 is a serious possibility.

Fremantle ruckman Sean Darcy could be on the trade table in October, with the 25-year-old stalling discussions to commit beyond his existing contract.

Dockers powerbrokers are determined to avoid Darcy, who is contracted until the end of 2024, heading into free agency next year and closer to a departure to continue his career back in his home state of Victoria.

Apparently, there is a new offer to the 2021 Doig medallist of about $800,000 a year - well under Luke Jackson’s contract numbers.

EGO will play a part in Darcy deciding to stay or go.

Darcy will be a restricted free agent and will attract whopping deals well over anything he is currently on at Fremantle.
Despite his injury troubles from his heavy workload and bash and crash ruck style, Darcy is tipped to be in an earning range of about $1.2 million a season from as early as next year.

Dockers officials need some answers from Darcy and a commitment to his plans for next season.

With Darcy and his management not ready to consider Fremantle’s now tabled offer, it is fuelling fears that he could walk out next month and ask for a trade.

Fremantle authorities then have to weigh up holding him to the final season of his contract next year, believed to be worth about $650,000.

Losing Darcy this year has appealing benefit for Fremantle. He continues to be linked to Geelong in the Cats’ chase for a recognised lead ruckman.
Fremantle would command Geelong’s first-round pick that sits inside the top 10, probably a player and even another later draft selection for releasing Darcy while still in contract.

South Fremantle product Shannon Neale, 21, could be part of a swap for Darcy and slot into the Dockers list as back-up ruck to Luke Jackson.

The confirmation of Jackson as a stand-alone lead ruckman while Darcy was sidelined further complicates Fremantle’s dilemma with their two big men.

It seems Dockers heavy-hitters are understandably concerned at the prospect of Darcy playing out next season with uncertainty swirling around his future.

It would be a significant distraction in plans for a resurgence back into serious finals calculations. If Darcy reached restricted free agency, Fremantle must match the deal from his destination club of choice or lose him without any fair trade in return. The Dockers must avoid that outcome.

Jackson was undisputed best-afield in successive games last month against Brisbane and then should have won a Glendinning-Allan medal for his outstanding western derby performance.

Jackson, 21, is fully capable of carrying the Dockers’ on-ball brigade almost single-handedly, leaving Fremantle in a quandary.

Darcy’s departure this year would guarantee Fremantle a hefty bargaining chip to get a crucial early draft selection in return and then pursue classy emerging ruck talent Mitchell Edwards from affiliate club Peel Thunder.

Jackson leading Fremantle’s ruck with support from an improving Josh Treacy and Edwards or Neale developing in the wings is an ideal strategy for the immediate to longer-term.

The immediate future for Liam Henry also remains a mystery, with the 21-year-old considering offers in the region of $500,000 to $600,000 per season for as much as four or five years from at least three Melbourne-based clubs, with Essendon said to be front-runners and Hawthorn not far away.

Henry could also cross to West Coast through the pre-season draft as an uncontracted player.

West Coast midfielder Elliot Yeo could be one casualty in a reassessment of playing personnel.

It has emerged from inside the Eagles that the injury-prone Yeo is tradeable goods after careful consideration to the immediate futures of veteran pair Jack Darling and Andrew Gaff.

Even before a final decision on coach Adam Simpson, it seems Eagles powerbrokers had elected to drop any thoughts of trading out Darling or Gaff.

Yeo, 29, now appears firmly under review. He still has considerable trade currency despite making it into just 37 games of a possible 83 over his past four injury-savaged seasons.

His trade value for West Coast runs cold at the end of his current contract next year, when Yeo will be an unrestricted free agent and could walk to a club of his choice.

A fit and healthy Yeo with his proven aggression around contests should appeal to any outfit on the edge of premiership potential.

West Coast’s salary cap is significantly lighter for next year with the retirements of Shannon Hurn, Luke Shuey and Nic Naitanui to clear up around $1.5m.

If Yeo left, it could clear another $850,000 for the Eagles to adequately contribute to any deal for Melbourne’s Brodie Grundy.

West Coast are in a powerful recruiting position with the coveted first draft pick in November.

Debate will rage in the club’s list management circles over whether to take highly-touted midfielder Harley Reid or trade the first draft pick for up to three other first-round selections.

North Melbourne sit second in the national draft order and, like every club in the business, want Reid.

Hitting North with demands for their pick 2 as well as the pick they already have from Port Adelaide for Jason Horne-Francis, is not unreasonable from West Coast recruiters.

That would give Eagles picks at 2, about 16 and starting round two at 20 or so.

Those spots might snare highly-regarded Claremont running defender Dan Curtin and then a couple of gifted midfielder-forwards in Zane Duursma from country Victoria and Subiaco young gun Koltyn Throlstrup.

Now that a future commitment to more rebuilding is to be headed by Simpson, it’s time to sire up some aggressive recruiting and list management.
If it was pick 2 and 16 for 1, I would want their pick 20 back
 
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