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List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

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Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.
  • Mac Andrew
  • Hunter Clark
  • Zac Fisher
  • Sam Flanders
  • Mitch Georgiades
  • Liam Henry
  • Dougal Howard
  • Lewis Melican
  • Jack Silvagni
  • Dylan Stephens
  • Adam Tomlinson
 
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From the Herald Sun:

"So what can the Blues do? Do they say to North Melbourne or St Kilda – here, take our No. 6 pick plus Williams and we will use the $800,000 saved to sign players who can help win the 2024 flag?"
LOL Blues would only consider this trade if we give them port's 1st rounder.

Essentially we upgrade ports pick approximately 10 places.



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Mahony, Bonar, Young, Spicer, Edwards, Perez, Dawson and Hall are all in trouble. 8 gone off the senior list. None have played more than 4 games and thats Hall and hes 33 in November.
Howe and Turner gone off the rookie list. Thats 10.
Lazzaro has another year to go but could be paid out. Nowhere near it
Drury and Free 50-50 to stay on.
Shiels I would be happy to offer another deal to but he may say no.
McKay Free Agency.

Comben, Goldstein, Greenwood and Ziebell should all get 1 year contracts and may even give Charlie 2.

So theres atleast 11 changes there. If our over 30's decide they have had enough then could be more.
 
At this stage, the only definite outs for me are Hall and Turner, and that’s probably because I would have delisted them last year.

For the rest, I’d like to see what happens for the back half of the season and whether Goldy, Cunners and Ziebs go on before making a call.
 
Mahony, Bonar, Young, Spicer, Edwards, Perez, Dawson and Hall are all in trouble. 8 gone off the senior list. None have played more than 4 games and thats Hall and hes 33 in November.
Howe and Turner gone off the rookie list. Thats 10.
Lazzaro has another year to go but could be paid out. Nowhere near it
Drury and Free 50-50 to stay on.
Shiels I would be happy to offer another deal to but he may say no.
McKay Free Agency.

Comben, Goldstein, Greenwood and Ziebell should all get 1 year contracts and may even give Charlie 2.

So theres atleast 11 changes there. If our over 30's decide they have had enough then could be more.

I think next year is the time to clean out all the older players. The younger guys will be ready and in need of the minutes if we're to push up the ladder in 25.

Assuming we keep the extra rookie spots, McKay leaves and we pick up Watson - then

Out: Howe, Turner, Goldie, Cunners (should retire), Greenwood, JZ, Shiels, Bonar, Hall, Mahony, Spicer and Young. Spicer and Young take rookie spots.

Team

McDonald, Logue, Bergman
Thomas, Corr, Sheezel
Ford, LDU, Scott
Stevo, Comben, Curtis
Zurhaar, Larkey, Watson
Xerri, Simpkin, Phillips
int- Wardlaw, Powell, CCJ, Goater

George, Taylor, Perez, Harvey, Tucker, Archer, Edwards, Lazzaro
Rookies - Dawson, Free, Dury, Spicer and Young.
 
LOL Blues would only consider this trade if we give them port's 1st rounder.

Essentially we upgrade ports pick approximately 10 places.



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Wouldnt do it in that case. $800k x 3 to move up a few spots....pass.
Thats 2.4m we can front load or use on a FA.

However, IF they took McKay which got us round1 compo and their future second then id seriously consider.
 
LOL Blues would only consider this trade if we give them port's 1st rounder.

Essentially we upgrade ports pick approximately 10 places.



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Its really only worth doing this if we know they are taking McKay and we're getting band one compo as well. Otherwise we're giving up a list spot and nearly a million bucks for a 10 place upgrade (at most). I dunno ... is that worth it?
 

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2023 KEY PRE-AGENTS

Adelaide:
Elliott Himmelberg
Brisbane: Hugh McCluggage, Jarrod Berry, Oscar McInerney
Carlton: Nil
Collingwood: Josh Daicos, Will Hoskin-Elliott
Essendon: Andrew McGrath
Fremantle: Sean Darcy, Brennan Cox
Geelong: Brandan Parfitt, Tom Stewart, Jack Henry
Gold Coast: Ben Ainsworth, Darcy MacPherson
Greater Western Sydney: Harry Perryman, Isaac Cumming, Nick Haynes
Hawthorn: Blake Hardwick
Melbourne: James Harmes
North Melbourne: Nick Larkey, Cam Zurhaar
Port Adelaide: Todd Marshall, Willem Drew
Richmond: Jack Graham, Dion Prestia, Dustin Martin
St Kilda: Josh Battle, Jack Sinclair
Sydney: Ollie Florent, Will Hayward
West Coast: Andrew Gaff, Elliot Yeo, Jack Darling, Liam Duggan
Western Bulldogs: Tim English, Tom Liberatore
 

KANGAS CAPTAIN WANTS TO PLAY HIS PART​


RECENTLY re-signed North Melbourne co-captain Jy Simpkin believes the Kangaroos are ready to begin attracting mature-aged recruits, saying he wants to play an active role in pitching to the club's next wave of potential targets.


Simpkin last week chose to ignore the lure of free agency, signing a five-year extension on top of the season he had remaining in a long-term deal that will keep him with the Kangaroos until at least 2029.


Upon signing his deal, Simpkin said the club had built a solid platform of youngsters – led by its former first-round picks such as Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw, Will Phillips and Tom Powell – and revealed his desire to play a part in future list management calls.


"It's really important that you do have those relationships with your list manager, like Brady Rawlings, because a lot of the time you do go through your junior footy playing with or against these sorts of players that you might be targeting," Simpkin told AFL.com.au.

"If they've got their eyes on players, we might know the ins and outs of someone who might be looking for a trade. It's important we do have those close relationships where we can work together. It's definitely something that I'll be pushing for in the future."

Simpkin's signature followed the two-year deals signed by top-four picks Sheezel and Wardlaw earlier this year, with the North Melbourne co-skipper hopeful their commitments could help persuade free agent Ben McKay to also stay at Arden Street.

"He's obviously been going back and forth for a while now in what he's going to do. You see it in the media. But hopefully he can start to see towards the future like I have. If I'm signing deals and hopefully we can get a few of the younger boys signing on, then it helps make his decision a lot easier," Simpkin said. – Riley Beveridge
 

KANGAS CAPTAIN WANTS TO PLAY HIS PART​


RECENTLY re-signed North Melbourne co-captain Jy Simpkin believes the Kangaroos are ready to begin attracting mature-aged recruits, saying he wants to play an active role in pitching to the club's next wave of potential targets.


Simpkin last week chose to ignore the lure of free agency, signing a five-year extension on top of the season he had remaining in a long-term deal that will keep him with the Kangaroos until at least 2029.


Upon signing his deal, Simpkin said the club had built a solid platform of youngsters – led by its former first-round picks such as Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw, Will Phillips and Tom Powell – and revealed his desire to play a part in future list management calls.


"It's really important that you do have those relationships with your list manager, like Brady Rawlings, because a lot of the time you do go through your junior footy playing with or against these sorts of players that you might be targeting," Simpkin told AFL.com.au.

"If they've got their eyes on players, we might know the ins and outs of someone who might be looking for a trade. It's important we do have those close relationships where we can work together. It's definitely something that I'll be pushing for in the future."

Simpkin's signature followed the two-year deals signed by top-four picks Sheezel and Wardlaw earlier this year, with the North Melbourne co-skipper hopeful their commitments could help persuade free agent Ben McKay to also stay at Arden Street.

"He's obviously been going back and forth for a while now in what he's going to do. You see it in the media. But hopefully he can start to see towards the future like I have. If I'm signing deals and hopefully we can get a few of the younger boys signing on, then it helps make his decision a lot easier," Simpkin said. – Riley Beveridge
Just give the sole Captaincy to this guy. He is active in trying to haul us out of our quagmire.
 

MID-SEASON DELISTED FREE AGENCY WINDOW RAISED​


A MID-SEASON delisted free agency window has been raised by clubs as a way to complement the mid-season draft.


Under current rules, players who have been previously delisted qualify as delisted free agents for clubs to select in free agency windows at the end of each season, however once the season begins they must wait for the mid-season draft to get onto a list.


There, the former players have to renominate for the draft alongside players hoping to be drafted for the first time.

However, some clubs believe that a separate mid-season delisted free agency window could be opened to allow ex-AFL players to re-enter the competition if they have previously been cut by an AFL club.

By dividing the delisted free agents from the mid-season draft prospects, clubs could then use each for specific purposes – the DFAs for short-term assistance and the mid-season draft for longer-term hopefuls.

The capacity for clubs to be able to trade mid-season trade picks for end-of-year or future selections also continues to be raised by clubs as an addition to the landscape. The move has been on the radar of the AFL in recent seasons. – Callum Twomey
 

MID-SEASON DELISTED FREE AGENCY WINDOW RAISED​


A MID-SEASON delisted free agency window has been raised by clubs as a way to complement the mid-season draft.


Under current rules, players who have been previously delisted qualify as delisted free agents for clubs to select in free agency windows at the end of each season, however once the season begins they must wait for the mid-season draft to get onto a list.


There, the former players have to renominate for the draft alongside players hoping to be drafted for the first time.

However, some clubs believe that a separate mid-season delisted free agency window could be opened to allow ex-AFL players to re-enter the competition if they have previously been cut by an AFL club.

By dividing the delisted free agents from the mid-season draft prospects, clubs could then use each for specific purposes – the DFAs for short-term assistance and the mid-season draft for longer-term hopefuls.

The capacity for clubs to be able to trade mid-season trade picks for end-of-year or future selections also continues to be raised by clubs as an addition to the landscape. The move has been on the radar of the AFL in recent seasons. – Callum Twomey

Lol, you mean this is the top 8 or bigger sides who simply don't want the draft order and would rather be able to attract players outside of draft conditions.

It also gives the power to the player.
 

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KANGAS CAPTAIN WANTS TO PLAY HIS PART​


RECENTLY re-signed North Melbourne co-captain Jy Simpkin believes the Kangaroos are ready to begin attracting mature-aged recruits, saying he wants to play an active role in pitching to the club's next wave of potential targets.


Simpkin last week chose to ignore the lure of free agency, signing a five-year extension on top of the season he had remaining in a long-term deal that will keep him with the Kangaroos until at least 2029.


Upon signing his deal, Simpkin said the club had built a solid platform of youngsters – led by its former first-round picks such as Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw, Will Phillips and Tom Powell – and revealed his desire to play a part in future list management calls.


"It's really important that you do have those relationships with your list manager, like Brady Rawlings, because a lot of the time you do go through your junior footy playing with or against these sorts of players that you might be targeting," Simpkin told AFL.com.au.

"If they've got their eyes on players, we might know the ins and outs of someone who might be looking for a trade. It's important we do have those close relationships where we can work together. It's definitely something that I'll be pushing for in the future."

Simpkin's signature followed the two-year deals signed by top-four picks Sheezel and Wardlaw earlier this year, with the North Melbourne co-skipper hopeful their commitments could help persuade free agent Ben McKay to also stay at Arden Street.

"He's obviously been going back and forth for a while now in what he's going to do. You see it in the media. But hopefully he can start to see towards the future like I have. If I'm signing deals and hopefully we can get a few of the younger boys signing on, then it helps make his decision a lot easier," Simpkin said. – Riley Beveridge

I’ll give you one name, Laitham Vandemeer
 

2023 KEY PRE-AGENTS

Adelaide:
Elliott Himmelberg
Brisbane: Hugh McCluggage, Jarrod Berry, Oscar McInerney
Carlton: Nil
Collingwood: Josh Daicos, Will Hoskin-Elliott
Essendon: Andrew McGrath
Fremantle: Sean Darcy, Brennan Cox
Geelong: Brandan Parfitt, Tom Stewart, Jack Henry
Gold Coast: Ben Ainsworth, Darcy MacPherson
Greater Western Sydney: Harry Perryman, Isaac Cumming, Nick Haynes
Hawthorn: Blake Hardwick
Melbourne: James Harmes
North Melbourne: Nick Larkey, Cam Zurhaar
Port Adelaide: Todd Marshall, Willem Drew
Richmond: Jack Graham, Dion Prestia, Dustin Martin
St Kilda: Josh Battle, Jack Sinclair
Sydney: Ollie Florent, Will Hayward
West Coast: Andrew Gaff, Elliot Yeo, Jack Darling, Liam Duggan
Western Bulldogs: Tim English, Tom Liberatore
I wonder what Rattens relationship with Battle is like.
 
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