List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread

[King Corey]

Edit: will update if ppl happy for this to sticky

Ok starting the hit list of names mentioned in any rumour as linked to us for 2023 trade period.

• Mac Andrew
• Hunter Clark
• Zac Fisher
• Sam Flanders
• Mitch Georgiades
• Liam Henry
• Dougal Howard
• Lewis Melican
• Jack Silvagni
• Dylan Stephens
• Adam Tomlinson

 

[Flawed Genius]

Suns are apparently willing to listen to offers for Hollands

 

[Disco Dew]

Suns are apparently willing to listen to offers for Hollands

What’s he worth? I’d be keen to get him

 

[King Corey]

Suns are apparently willing to listen to salary dump offers from Geelong for Hollands

Fify.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

A question to the experts about the GC pick 5 situation: are they after another salary dump trade similar to last year where they will try to offload a player along with the pick, or just the pick this time? If it's just the pick, given their three academy selections coming up and the state of their salary cap, I assume they will be after predominantly future picks. If so, in order to trump other clubs would it be beyond the realms of possibility to offer our future first in a swap for their future first as a centrepiece for the deal (with other picks changing hands etc)?

In my view, if we are serious about improving, we need to back ourselves to improve significantly next season and try to get out of the bottom 2-3 or even the bottom 4. That being the case we could back ourselves to finish around similar position as the Suns but they may think it represents value for them.

An extra top 5 pick this year would be extremely important to us in terms of our list build and I would seriously consider something like this to make it happen.

Pick swap from the looks... their cap is fine currently.

I agree completely, we should be trying to move our future first into their current first because I wholeheartedly believe that will be Watson. If they want to death ride us it should be an extra player or draft collateral on the top of it. A haul of Curtin/Reid, McKercher and then Watson (if the Hawks interest in Duursma is legitimate) is an all timer if McKay goes, even better if we get Sanders.

 

[Flawed Genius]

Pick swap from the looks... their cap is fine currently.

I agree completely, we should be trying to move our future first into their current first because I wholeheartedly believe that will be Watson. If they want to death ride us it should be an extra player or draft collateral on the top of it. A haul of Curtin/Reid, McKercher and then Watson (if the Hawks interest in Duursma is legitimate) is an all timer if McKay goes, even better if we get Sanders.

Hollands + 5 for NMFC 2024 1st & change ?

 

[Disco Dew]

Hollands + 5 for NMFC 2024 1st & change ?

I’d do that in a heart beat

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Hollands + 5 for NMFC 2024 1st & change ?

If we could get either of Flanders or Hollands into that deal...

 

[King Corey]

Wonder if the trade/FA period will bolster the 20-24yo / 30-50 game bracket. Big hole looming there especially if looking to start firing in 2-3+ years.

 

[Mav]

To an extent.

Baldwin was one of the top prospects of the 2021 draft before doing his ACL in his top age year.

yep, I posted this a couple of weeks ago. He was SA captain but mainly played CHF. He still learning to be a backman.

They gave him a chance when no one else did, and converted him to a defender. Their work in the SSP and mid-season draft should be commended - but their high draft picking has been average to dreadful over the last decade.

A bit more to it than that. They literally hid him up on the GC and helped him with his rehabilitation. He's 100% gettable.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Just following on from the Genius and the Wizard, here are the relevant pars in Jon Ralph's latest:

There is cap space and flexibility to secure Richmond star Dustin Martin, but he has indicated he wants to remain at the Tigers and play his 300th game next year.

The Suns are keen to re-sign young midfielder Sam Flanders but will likely listen to offers for No.7 draft Elijah Hollands, who has played just nine senior games this year.

Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...l/news-story/cb41d0fd181d311c189b8a10fbbc305a

 

[Clarke is King]

Hollands has been subbed off three weeks in a row so surely he'd be open to a change of scenery as well.

 

[Makeshift Park]

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Wonder if the trade/FA period will bolster the 20-24yo / 30-50 game bracket. Big hole looming there especially if looking to start firing in 2-3+ years.

Maybe people like...
Ralphsmith, 21, 32 games
Georgiades, 21, 49 games
Graham, 22, 37 games
Stephens, 22, 41 games
Flanders, 22, 42 games
Riccardi, 23, 45 games

 

[Roo202]

It is. The AFL is looking at going further with matching bids using picks in the same round only.

I agree it should be done like this, but you just know, somehow, after GC pick up 3 top 10s for a cobbled together collection of junk picks this year, it will be introduced at a time that bites us hard (L-Mac F/S style) and then gets "recalibrated" in time for the next generation of Swan academy players or Cats F/Ss

 

[Disco Dew]

North Melbourne Kangaroos AFL Player Contracts

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So we have 15 players out of contract at the end of the year. Hall and ziebs are retiring leaving 13.

Ooc:
Bonar
McKay
Drury
Howe
perez
Free
Mahony
Edwards
Dawson
Turner
Young
Shiels
Spicer
Goldy

So who are we keeping?

 

[HBFlanker]

North Melbourne Kangaroos AFL Player Contracts

Details of AFL player contracts for the North Melbourne Kangaroos.

www.footywire.com

So we have 15 players out of contract at the end of the year. Hall and ziebs are retiring leaving 13.

Ooc:
Bonar
McKay
Drury
Howe
perez moved to rookie
Free
Mahony
Edwards
Dawson
Turner
Young
Shiels
Spicer
Goldy

So who are we keeping?

Just the highlighted

 

[Makeshift Park]

Just the highlighted

No way we'd be dumping Drury already.

 

[Ashley B]

I thought we would delist 8 to 10 could be as high as 14. We have a few extra players we need to get rid of due to the extra list size don’t we ?

 

[Merlin007]

I thought we would delist 8 to 10 could be as high as 14. We have a few extra players we need to get rid of due to the extra list size don’t we ?

We have 46 on the list which needs to come down to 42, before we even start opening up spots

 

[Ashley B]

North Melbourne Kangaroos AFL Player Contracts

Details of AFL player contracts for the North Melbourne Kangaroos.

www.footywire.com

So we have 15 players out of contract at the end of the year. Hall and ziebs are retiring leaving 13.

Ooc:
Bonar
McKay
Drury
Howe
perez
Free
Mahony
Edwards
Dawson
Turner
Young
Shiels
Spicer
Goldy

So who are we keeping?

Out of that list I reckon perhaps Goldy, and Drury could be renewed. We could also rookie 1 or 2 like Spicer,Dawson,Free,Perez or Bonar. Then again they might say bye to all of them. Wonder how many Big Al delisted at the Hawks his first yr , probably a few. There is going to be a major cull though.

 

[Farthers]

We have 46 on the list which needs to come down to 42, before we even start opening up spots

The 2 extra rookies and 2 LTIs, yeah?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Our future first bring involved somewhere too much for Hollands?

*It is a hypothetical gauging other valuations.

 

[year of the roo]

Our future first too much for Hollands?

I think you know the answer to that, could easily be pick 1 or 2 again.

 

[zoomba23]

Our future first too much for Hollands?

Yes

 

[My Left Foote]

Pick swap from the looks... their cap is fine currently.

I agree completely, we should be trying to move our future first into their current first because I wholeheartedly believe that will be Watson. If they want to death ride us it should be an extra player or draft collateral on the top of it. A haul of Curtin/Reid, McKercher and then Watson (if the Hawks interest in Duursma is legitimate) is an all timer if McKay goes, even better if we get Sanders.

Curtin, McKercher, Watson & Sanders = 4 of a Kind. Add Joel Frejiah or Archer Reid with the Port pick = Royal Flush.

 

[Farthers]

Out of that list I reckon perhaps Goldy, and Drury could be renewed. We could also rookie 1 or 2 like Spicer,Dawson,Free,Perez or Bonar. Then again they might say bye to all of them. Wonder how many Big Al delisted at the Hawks his first yr , probably a few. There is going to be a major cull though.

The 2004 draft and the genius of Al Clarkson

Ashley Browne was in the room in 2004 as Clarko played the Tigers on the break

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