Preview 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[briztoon]

Leo Lombard and Caleb Nancarrow were both seen training with the Suns AFL team on day one of the preseason today.

Any other draft prospects training with AFL clubs at the moment?

Levi was out there with the Lions today.

 

[Yoda_]

Leo Lombard and Caleb Nancarrow were both seen training with the Suns AFL team on day one of the preseason today.

Any other draft prospects training with AFL clubs at the moment?

To be fair, my club has an NGA academy where father/sons and NGA prospects are integrated in what life would be like as an AFL player

 

[Membling]

Time to look forward to the next draft. My really early mock

RANKING		NAME	POSITION	DOB	HEIGHT/WEIGHT	CLUB	AFF
1	West Coast	Finn O'Sullivan	Midfielder	30/5/06	181cm/70kg	Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
2	North Melbourne	Jagga Smith	Midfielder	28/1/06	181cm/68kg	Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
3	Hawthorn	Sid Draper	Midfielder/Forward	5/7/06	180cm/72kg	South Adelaide/South Australia
4	Brisbane F/S	Levi Ashcroft	Midfielder	18/12/06	179cm/75kg	Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro	BRIS
5	Gold Coast	Tom Gross	Midfielder/Forward	15/9/06	182cm/70kg	Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
6	Fremantle	Josh Smillie	Utility	17/5/06	194cm/92kg	Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
7	Adelaide F/S	Tyler Welsh	Key Forward	15/8/06	191cm/90kg	Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia	ADEL
8	Richmond	Christian Moraes	Midfielder	11/8/06	182cm	Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro	HAW
9	Geelong	Sam Lalor	Midfielder	30/8/06	187cm/88kg	GMV Rebels/Vic Country
10	Carlton F/S	Ben Camporeale	Wing	21/7/06	184cm/62kg	Glenelg/South Australia	CARL
11	Essendon	Harvey Langford	Midfielder/Forward	15/3/06	188cm/85kg	Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
12	Gold Coast (WB)	Luke Trainor	Key Defender	10/4/06	193cm/86kg	Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
13	Gold Coast (Academy)	Leonardo Lombard	Midfielder/Forward	5/10/06	178cm/76kg	Gold Coast Academy/Allies	GC
14	Sydney	Jobe Shanahan	Forward	2/8/06	193cm	Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
15	Brisbane (Academy)	Samuel Marshall	Midfielder/ Defender	19/1/06	185cm/78kg	Sandringham Dragons/Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
16	Carlton F/S	Lucas Camporeale	Wing	21/7/06	183cm/62kg	Glenelg/South Australia	CARL
17	St.Kilda	Archer Day-Wicks	Midfielder/Forward	13/5/06	185cm/82kg	Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
18	Melbourne	Kade Herbert	Midfielder/Forward	3/4/06	183cm	Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia
19	Fremantle (PA)	Jonty Faull	Key Forward	1/2/06	194cm/84kg	GMV Rebels/Vic Country
20	GWS Giants	Murphy Reid	Midfielder/Forward	30/7/06	181cm	Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
21	Fremantle (Coll)	Bo Allan	Defender	16/2/06	188cm/83kg	Peel Thunder/Western Australia
22	Sydney (NM Priority)	Xavier Lindsay	Wing	3/8/06	182cm/72kg	Gippsland Power/Vic Country
23	West Coast	Malakai Champion	Small Forward	17/5/06	170cm/64kg	Subiaco/Western Australia	WC
24	North Melbourne	Noah Mraz	Key Defender	20/2/06	197cm	Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
25	Collingwood (Haw)	Harry O'Farrell	Key Defender	3/5/06	196cm	Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
26	Richmond (Frem)	Nash King	Midfielder	5/1/06	181cm/79kg	Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
27	Richmond	Phoenix Hargrave	Midfielder	15/9/06	181cm/83kg	South Adelaide/South Australia
28	Geelong	Toby Travaglia	Defender	26/10/06	187cm/72kg	Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
29	Essendon	Taj Hotton	Forward	17/6/06	180cm	Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
30	GWS Giants (Adel)	Oliver Dean	Ruck	16/10/06	199cm/82kg	Tasmania Devils/Allies
31	Sydney (Academy)	Joe Harrison	Midfielder	27/3/06	187cm/85kg	Sydney Academy/Allies	SYD
32	W.Bulldogs	Isaac Kako	Forward	7/3/06	174cm	Calder Cannons/Vic Metro	ESS
33	Melbourne (Syd)	Lucca Grego	Midfielder	15/9/06	183cm	Western Jets/Vic Metro
34	Fremantle (St.K)	Kayle Gerreyn	Ruck	10/5/06	192cm/88kg	West Perth/Western Australia
35	Port Adelaide	Zak Johnson	Midfielder	24/12/06	185cm	Northern Knights/Vic Metro
36	Port Adelaide F/S	Louie Montgomery	Forward	24/4/06	183cm/73kg	North Adelaide/South Australia	PA
37	Sydney (Academy)	Joel Cochran	Key Forward	28/3/06	194cm/84kg	Sydney Academy/Allies	SYD
38	St.Kilda (GWS)	Jesse Dattoli	Midfielder/Forward	8/7/06	178cm	Northern Knights/Vic Metro
39	Hawthorn (Coll)	Chayse Martinson	Midfielder	6/2/06	179cm/75kg	Swan Districts/Western Australia
40	Richmond (WC)	Cooper Hynes	Midfielder/ Forward	28/2/06	188cm	Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
41	North Melbourne	Clay Shadforth	Forward	11/4/06	180cm	South Adelaide/NT Thunder/Allies
42	Essendon (NGA)	Jayden Nguyen	Wing	27/7/06	175cm	Calder Cannons/Vic Metro	ESS
43	Collingwood (Haw)	Tom Luck	Ruck/Forward	6/4/06	195cm85kg	Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia
44	Richmond (Frem)	Koopa Walsh	Forward	19/5/06	193cm/86kg	Subiaco/Western Australia
45	Richmond	Ricky Mentha	Defender	4/9/06	179cm	Gippsland Power/NT Thunder/Allies
46	Geelong	Austin Van Der Struyf	Wing	17/3/06	179cm/69kg	Claremont/Western Australia
47	Melbourne (WB)	Jacob Newton	Midfielder	20/3/06	176cm/78kg	Norwood/South Australia
48	GWS Giants	Lucas McInerney	Midfielder/ Defender	28/2/06	180cm	Northern Knights/Vic Metro
49	Melbourne (St.K)	Tom Evans	Midfielder	22/2/06	180cm	Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
50	St.Kilda (Carl)	Otis Harvey	Midfielder	17/1/06	183cm/82kg	Swan Districts/Western Australia
51	St.Kilda (Melb)	Oliver Warburton	Wing	13/6/06	184cm/76kg	Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
52	Collingwood	Charlie Nicholls	Key Forward	8/1/06	196cm	Central District/South Australia
53	West Coast	Harry Dodd	Defender	5/2/06	183cm/78kg	Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia
54	North Melbourne	Rhys Unwin	Midfielder/Forward	11/10/06	177cm/69kg	GMV Rebels/Vic Country
55	Richmond	Flynn Penry	Ruck	20/4/06	200cm/90kg	GMV Rebels/Vic Country
56	Geelong	Joshua Murphy	Forward	28/11/06	190cm/84kg	Murray Bushrangers/Allies
57	GWS Giants	Ned Atkinson	Midfielder/Forward	31/7/06	180cm/75kg	Sturt/South Australia
58	Port Adelaide F/S	Rome Burgoyne	Defender	29/8/06	181cm/76kg	Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia	PA
59	Fremantle NGA	Deian Roberts	Midfielder	24/7/06	186cm/84kg	Peel Thunder/Western Australia	FREM
60	Brisbane (Academy)	Tom Gillet	Ruck/Key Forward	9/1/06	199cm	Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
61	Melbourne	Asher Eastham	Forward	13/5/06	188cm	Gippsland Power/Vic Country

Just a quick one on Cochran, usually plays as a KPD. No idea why played as a fwd in the futures game but far, far better in the back half currently

 

[RanaNaved]

Who are the best half backs or general defenders for next year?

 

[Monsterdarlz]

As far as ruckmen go, I want to keep a very close eye on Lucas Ravenhill from Claremont.

In one of the 2022 national 16's games he was best 3 or 4 on the ground.

He's mobile, runs hard to impact contests and is already 199cm according to his WAFL bio.

He was based in Albany in the South-West of WA this season and only traveled up to the city for two matches and that saw his profile go under the radar somewhat.

That said, he has been named in the WA state 18's summer squad, so the selectors saw something and maybe he has made the decision to relocate to the city.

Well worth keeping tabs on.

Would of still being in high school if he was an underager colts

 

[ep2018]

Unless Curtin has a stand out first season I wouldn't be surprised if Adelaide offer us Curtin for our likely pick 1 or 2 next season and pick Draper with the pick.

 

[TDS7]

Who are the best half backs or general defenders for next year?

Tobie Travaglia and Luke Trainor are the standouts so far. Jobe Shanahan can play as a swingman as well, and goes superbly as an interceptor.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Unless Curtin has a stand out first season I wouldn't be surprised if Adelaide offer us Curtin for our likely pick 1 or 2 next season and pick Draper with the pick.

If he plays well it would be a big call for Adelaide to trade him for an unproven 18 year old, particularly given he plays a position of need and will have an extra years development under his belt.

On the flip side if he plays okay but doesn't set the world on fire it would be a big call for Westcoast to trade the best kid in the land for him.

For those reasons I don't see it happening unless he wants out.

 

[briztoon]

Unless Curtin has a stand out first season I wouldn't be surprised if Adelaide offer us Curtin for our likely pick 1 or 2 next season and pick Draper with the pick.

Had the exact same thought when they took him in the draft.

 

[eDPS]

 

[Jeremias]

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Any chance you can go through the names and let us know which are eligible for 2024 vs those we'll have to wait another year for?

 

[noobermensch]

Not a snowflakes chance in Hades of that happening.

Agreed. I don't remember the last time a kid was traded after one season unless he kicked up a fuss and demanded it (JHF).

 

[eDPS]

Any chance you can go through the names and let us know which are eligible for 2024 vs those we'll have to wait another year for?

This should help

2024 Victorian talent hubs announced

The AFL has announced Victoria's summer training squads for next year, including a total of 45 players split into Country and Metro.

t.co

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Any chance you can go through the names and let us know which are eligible for 2024 vs those we'll have to wait another year for?

VM.

2024:

Armstrong.
Ashcroft.
Dattoli.
Grego
Gross.
Hotton.
Johnson.
Kako.
King.
Moraes.
O'Farrell.
Oliver.
Reid.
Richardson. (KB's grandson BTW.)
Smillie.
Smith.
Trainor.

2025:

Dalton.
Dovaston.
Emmett.
Greeves.
Ludowyke.


VC.

2024:

Day-Wicks.
Faull.
Hynes.
Ivisic.
Lalor.
Langford.
Lindsay.
Mraz.
O'Sullivan.
Penry.
Travaglia.
Unwin.
Warburton.
Whitlock twins.

2025:

Duursma.
Hibbins-Hargreaves.
Hicks.
Onley.
Rongdit.
Scapin.

Unsure:

Harding.
McInnes.

 

[Haggas]

Any chance you can go through the names and let us know which are eligible for 2024 vs those we'll have to wait another year for?

Vic Country
Duursma
Rongdit
Hibbins-Hargrave
Scapin
Hicks
Onley

Vic Metro
Ludowyke
Dalton
Dovaston
Emmett
Greeves

Are all 2025 Draft

 

[marcmurphy3]

That metro team looks impressive. Would have to be favourites for the national title. SA will have a strong team next year as well. WA will have the weakest side and the Allies won't be that good either, unless they include a fair bit of their bottom age talent.

 

[Tivva29]

That metro team looks impressive. Would have to be favourites for the national title. SA will have a strong team next year as well. WA will have the weakest side and the Allies won't be that good either, unless they include a fair bit of their bottom age talent.

VM midfield is stacked, probably the best since Matt Rowell’s year. It will be a very different side to their u16 team.

 

[mpal6]

Mate, you really are going to get the northern academy concessions pulled from us if you keep spruiking so hard.

Without them making finals, it'll become a hot topic next year as well.

They have to make finals so GC academy players will start spreading via draft elsewhere. That'll calm the farm a bit.

 

[GC2015]

Without them making finals, it'll become a hot topic next year as well.

They have to make finals so GC academy players will start spreading via draft elsewhere. That'll calm the farm a bit.

I think that's what people really want to see. They want to see the Suns lose a highly talented academy player to another club to get their sense of justice. The system is designed to penalise those who make finals and help those who don't. So the more successful the Suns become, the more they will be restricted... but that's not good enough in some people's minds.

 

[Futbolista]

How many years off are we before Queensland can field a stand alone team at the national 18's?

Surely that is the long term goal for QLD and NSW?

 

[bungalow_bill]

I think that's what people really want to see. They want to see the Suns lose a highly talented academy player to another club to get their sense of justice. The system is designed to penalise those who make finals and help those who don't. So the more successful the Suns become, the more they will be restricted... but that's not good enough in some people's minds.

But then GC can use the go home factor for once

 

[mpal6]

I think that's what people really want to see. They want to see the Suns lose a highly talented academy player to another club to get their sense of justice. The system is designed to penalise those who make finals and help those who don't. So the more successful the Suns become, the more they will be restricted... but that's not good enough in some people's minds.

I'm fine with losing academy players when a club is successful. Then the same criteria needs to apply to father son too.

Why should Hawks get priority on all 4 Hodge boys under a father-son criteria ? That's BS in my view and there should be limits on how many times the club can hold a blood line to ransom. If you pick one father-son, then you don't get first dibs on the rest and rest of them have to go via open draft. That'll be fair.

Same would look fine say Josh Daicos going to Collingwood and Nick Daicos going in open draft. Or Will Ashcroft coming to Lions and Levi Ashcroft going in open draft. Father son needs to be adjusted too rather than giving a leg up for a single club forever.

 

[GC2015]

But then GC can use the go home factor for once

That's only ever worked for us once with Lachie Weller. Would be great if we could use it as effectively as other clubs but I'm not confident. Didn't work with Riewoldt, Beams or Tippett.

I'm fine with losing academy players when a club is successful. Then the same criteria needs to apply to father son too.

Why should Hawks get priority on all 4 Hodge boys under a father-son criteria ? That's BS in my view and there should be limits on how many times the club can hold a blood line to ransom. If you pick one father-son, then you don't get first dibs on the rest and rest of them have to go via open draft. That'll be fair.

Same would look fine say Josh Daicos going to Collingwood and Nick Daicos going in open draft. Or Will Ashcroft coming to Lions and Levi Ashcroft going in open draft. Father son needs to be adjusted too rather than giving a leg up for a single club forever.

I think what we'll see going forward is all clubs will set up father-son academies (if they haven't already) and will put everything they possibly can into developing those players because it's in their best interests.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

How many years off are we before Queensland can field a stand alone team at the national 18's?

Surely that is the long term goal for QLD and NSW?

My question is why was this stopped?

 

[GC2015]

My question is why was this stopped?

Because they want the best prospects from the minnow states to genuinely compete in the Div I Championships against Vic Metro, Vic Country, SA & WA so the Allies concept was rebirthed in 2016 and the Div II Championships was replaced with the Academy Series. Now we're at a point where the Allies are finally competitive at the top level and even claimed their first Div I title this yea so people are starting to talk about separating them again. This has already happened in the women's game where Queensland is quite strong at the junior level and competes in the Div I Championships on their own while the Allies are comprised of NSW, ACT, NT & Tasmania. Wouldn't be surprised if Queensland eventually breaks away from the Allies in the male competition as well.