Discussion 2024 General AFL Discussion

[Diehard Saint]

Just flat AF.
Not surprised in the least however.
Sorry Higgo. This game is screwed.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Tony Greene slung tackle someone both arms pinned two weeks ago and got off. Funny stuff. heck you christanisan uou week dog

 

[Tyrian Lonestar]

Ok, I'm calm

 

[moirae42]

It is such a rediculous decision. Just so stupid.

Oh well. Bring in the kid. Bet he kicks four this week. Maybe even five, just to get the place froffin.

 

[The Slug]

"We consider a three-match sanction to be proportionate in all the circumstances"

Get absolutely farked. Their whole reasoning statement is a load of hot garbage.

 

[Mat Mann]

Reasons:
We consider this to be a clear case of rough conduct. Higgins used a poor and dangerous technique tackling Aliir to ground.
He grabbed hold of Aliir’s left arm and forcefully rotated him to ground. Higgins applied excessive force through a combination of dragging Aliir down by his left arm, while also using his bodyweight and right arm to help bring a bigger player to ground.

Importantly, at no stage did Higgins release Aliir’s left arm as he was coming to ground so that Aliir had control of his arm and could try to use it to protect himself.
Higgins had hold Aliir’s arm in such a way that Aliir had no or little ability to use it to try to protect himself.
A player exercising reasonable care would have released control of Aliir’s left arm to give him some opportunity to try to protect himself.
We agree that Aliir’s movement in attempting to kick the ball contributed to his momentum in coming to ground. We also have regard to the evidence of Dr. Bayne.
However, Higgins’ tackle was unreasonable for all the reasons we've stated, irrespective of Aliir’s movement in attempting to kick the ball.
Higgins dragged him down by his left arm with excessive force and even when Aliir was hurtling to the ground after trying to kick the ball, Higgins did not release his left arm.
This tackle was unreasonable in the circumstances and therefore constituted rough conduct.
Higgins did not challenge the grading of the impact as severe or the contact as high, and therefore is unnecessary to address those matters. That was sensible in circumstances where Aliir’s head hit the ground hard, he left the ground, did not return, suffered a concussion and will miss at least one further match.
We do not consider there to be any merit in the alternative submission that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances which make it inappropriate or unreasonable to apply a sanction of three matches.
We consider a three-match sanction to be proportionate in all the circumstances.The tackle was unreasonable and dangerous irrespective of Aliir’s actions.

read all that and try and match it up with the vision, it just doesn't compute

 

[Remboy]

I’m sure they tried their best. AFL just couldn’t find a way to increase it to four weeks. Better luck next time.

 

[Saints4ever]

Allir throws his body sideways trying to kick the ball so yeah the tackle momentum is going to continue that way you absolute farkwits. The more I think about it the angrier I get. Kents.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Reasons:
We consider this to be a clear case of rough conduct. Higgins used a poor and dangerous technique tackling Aliir to ground.
He grabbed hold of Aliir’s left arm and forcefully rotated him to ground. Higgins applied excessive force through a combination of dragging Aliir down by his left arm, while also using his bodyweight and right arm to help bring a bigger player to ground.

Importantly, at no stage did Higgins release Aliir’s left arm as he was coming to ground so that Aliir had control of his arm and could try to use it to protect himself.
Higgins had hold Aliir’s arm in such a way that Aliir had no or little ability to use it to try to protect himself.
A player exercising reasonable care would have released control of Aliir’s left arm to give him some opportunity to try to protect himself.
We agree that Aliir’s movement in attempting to kick the ball contributed to his momentum in coming to ground. We also have regard to the evidence of Dr. Bayne.
However, Higgins’ tackle was unreasonable for all the reasons we've stated, irrespective of Aliir’s movement in attempting to kick the ball.
Higgins dragged him down by his left arm with excessive force and even when Aliir was hurtling to the ground after trying to kick the ball, Higgins did not release his left arm.
This tackle was unreasonable in the circumstances and therefore constituted rough conduct.
Higgins did not challenge the grading of the impact as severe or the contact as high, and therefore is unnecessary to address those matters. That was sensible in circumstances where Aliir’s head hit the ground hard, he left the ground, did not return, suffered a concussion and will miss at least one further match.
We do not consider there to be any merit in the alternative submission that there are exceptional and compelling circumstances which make it inappropriate or unreasonable to apply a sanction of three matches.
We consider a three-match sanction to be proportionate in all the circumstances.The tackle was unreasonable and dangerous irrespective of Aliir’s actions.

read all that and try and match it up with the vision, it just doesn't compute

What a long winded, verbose way of saying…
“St.Kilda, no name player. F you. Gone.”

 

[Mat Mann]

I will add our club sure are stupid when it comes to the tribunal, for smart ppl they sure do dumb s**t over and over.

 

[Groater]

A player exercising reasonable care would have released control of Aliir’s left arm to give him some opportunity to try to protect himself.

Just absolute fantasy land type of stuff.

 

[Saints4ever]

Eddie McGuire is a tool but listen to him on this weeks episode of Eddie and Jimmy he would’ve got Higgins off. Our lawyers are seriously cooked.

 

[Tyrian Lonestar]

Eddie McGuire is a tool but listen to him on this weeks episode of Eddie and Jimmy he would’ve got Higgins off. Our lawyers are seriously cooked.

Dah, they're lawyers

 

[Teflon]

Is there any options to appeal here?
This is beyond a joke by cut lunch commando’s
Fck n rubbish
Bet we bend over and say “please sir may I have some more…”
Weak

 

[Teflon]

There goes the “good bloke” rule

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

So is this the first tackle that’s been given 3 weeks?
Or the first tackle where an arm has been free?

I don’t understand how the contact is rated as high since it wasn’t high?

 

[The Cobra]

Just absolute fantasy land type of stuff.

Yup - just looked from behind - could see it was dangerous and immediately decided to release the arm - all in about 0.3 of a second - a supercomputer couldn’t work it out in that timeframe!

 

[Plugger35]

So Higgins should have released Aliir's left arm so he could get a handball away.

Maybe Higgins should have just released Aliir completely so he could run off and kick the ball.

Do these muppets know why players tackle and hold an arm? It's so that the player they are tackling can't handball or kick the ball and they have a chance of getting a holding the ball free kick.

The lack of common sense from the MRO and the tribunal is staggering, it's no wonder the players and umpires are so confused.

 

[Tyrian Lonestar]

 

[The Cobra]

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Danger & Pendles say hi! Whoops forgot Charlie says I’m a good guy!

 

[Saint Watto]

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That's gold there Tyrian.

Gave me my biggest laugh tonight.....which has been a bit of a downer night.

 

[Tyrian Lonestar]

That's gold there Tyrian.

Gave me my biggest laugh tonight.....which has been a bit of a downer night.

Sure has been a downer night. AFL has lost the plot

 

[gringo2011]

We are there to set the rules for the rest of the competition to follow. Sacrificial lamb for Laura Kane and her new netball code. We are basically the Washington Generals of the AFL. Never get a hand up and always used as a test case for any s**t they want to take on us.

They'd never treat Collingwood or Essendon like they do us. We have a season where we have a fixture made for us based on dumping every leftover on us. We didn't play at home for months, played multiple short turn around games interstate.

heck the AFL. They are doing permanent damage to the code under Kane. I predict it won't be around in 15 years. It will start to retract and disappear like wiffle ball and croquet. ******* idiots. Harder to heck it than let it run itself but they find a way.

The good thing is we'll finish 3rd last but they'll give North the and the northern academies the first 8 picks again.

 

[The Cobra]

We are there to set the rules for the rest of the competition to follow. Sacrificial lamb for Laura Kane and her new netball code. We are basically the Washington Generals of the AFL. Never get a hand up and always used as a test case for any s**t they want to take on us.

They'd never treat Collingwood or Essendon like they do us. We have a season where we have a fixture made for us based on dumping every leftover on us. We didn't play at home for months, played multiple short turn around games interstate.

* the AFL. They are doing permanent damage to the code under Kane. I predict it won't be around in 15 years. It will start to retract and disappear like wiffle ball and croquet. ******* idiots. Harder to * it than let it run itself but they find a way.

The good thing is we'll finish 3rd last but they'll give North the and the northern academies the first 8 picks again.

Awful fixture & some pitiful umpiring (hello PA), heap of suspensions (no argument with JWeb - he got the ball rolling) and a heap of pre and in season injuries - just put a line through 2024 it’s not happening.

Hopefully RTB gets some more games into the kids, keeps drilling the game plan and standards. Fingers crossed we address our deficiencies in the midfield, a decent KPD and a tall forward who can pinch hit in the ruck plus we continue to draft well.

Just one of those seasons - it happens - roll on 2025!

 

[Teflon]

Yup bunch Kent’s