Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[Sonny Hayes]

We should keep an eye on Aaron Cadman. Lots of family and friends in Vic.

Offer Melican a four year deal. He won't refuse.

Get B.Smith in.

Imagine our side with just these three changes. We are so close.

B: Hardwick -Blanck - Sicily
HB: Impey - Melican - Mitchell
C: Weddle - Smith - Amon
HF: Moore - Chol - Ginnivan
FF: Watson - Lewis - Cadman
R: Meek - Day - Newcombe
IC: McKenzie - Scrimshaw - Worpel - Massimo

 

[Hot Cheese Rioli]

they could conceivably get pick 1 and 2 this year (zuurhar compo)...

...and pick 1 and 2 next year (LDU compo)

that would go with the 2 and 3 Wardlaw and Sheezel

and the 3 and 4 McKercher and Duursma


that would be 8 top 4 picks in 4 years


astonishing

Madness.

 

[hawkheart]

The conversation around M Lewis is pointless

S Mitchell wants him
M Lewis is committed and wants to continue to be part of the future

Anything else said to the contrary is guessing or inflammatory

Mitchy's more with the anti-inflammatories at the moment I'd reckon

 

[FB19]

Do people genuinely believe Cam Zurhaar is going to net North pick 2? Not even the corrupt AFL can engineer that.

 

[CHUBBSS]

Do people genuinely believe Cam Zurhaar is going to net North pick 2? Not even the corrupt AFL can engineer that.

One word: Mackay

 

[theiaofseed]

One word: Mackay

McKay is a very good KPD, Zurhaar is an average third tall

 

[Hot Cheese Rioli]

Do people genuinely believe Cam Zurhaar is going to net North pick 2? Not even the corrupt AFL can engineer that.

No, but AFL will 100% do it so they can save face by not giving them further priority picks.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Saints are offering North their 2024 and 2025 first rounder to do the deal this year. North are keen, it’s up to LDU to agree.

An unlikely landing point for a midfielder with questionable defensive skills.

Plenty of talent but doesn't seem like a Ross Lyon type.

 

[FB19]

One word: Mackay

Not even in the same conversation re value even when you spell his name correctly…. KPD worth a lot more than a medium forward.

 

[ahhhhhh]

No, but AFL will 100% do it so they can save face by not giving them further priority picks.

I'm becoming increasingly worried this is going to happen. That would be a devasting blow to our rebuild. We can't keep getting pushed down the draft order.

 

[kirbatron]

Do people genuinely believe Cam Zurhaar is going to net North pick 2? Not even the corrupt AFL can engineer that.

it's within the realms of possibility BUT it would need CZ to pull his finger out & increase his output this year.

he is fwd-mid power player. it's a buzz position with alot of value.

 

[killerspud]

it's within the realms of possibility BUT it would need CZ to pull his finger out & increase his output this year.

he is fwd-mid power player. it's a buzz position with alot of value.

Id imagine he would add alot to a contending team. Could see any of Essendon, geelong, port, gc, collingwood and Melbourne shelling out enough coin to push him into round 1 compo pick territory

 

[Platten44]

One word: Mackay

His salary that The Scum paid to get him over the line is easily band1 compo. With incentives he could easily earn a mill a season with them.

 

[Big Hotdog]

Do people genuinely believe Cam Zurhaar is going to net North pick 2? Not even the corrupt AFL can engineer that.

Until they do. I dont think discreet is a "thing" for the AFL.

They will roll out the memo to their media teams to normalise the decision and "hey presto" pick 2 is a fair thing.

 

[Blackhawk42]

They won't get pick 2 compensation for Zurhaar.

Very low possibility that any side pays him enough to trigger it, but also if we're speculating that the AFL manipulates these outcomes then I don't believe it's in the best interests of the AFL anyway.

The last thing North Melbourne need are more kids to replace established players.
If they are going to manipulate anything it will be to ensure some senior bodies wind up going there. You could argue that pick 2 would entice a club to trade a star, but there aren't any star players who will agree to go there.

Also, you've got us and West Coast in desperate need of more elite young talent. The needs of other clubs would need to be considered eventually.

 

[RobHawk]

Until they do. I dont think discreet is a "thing" for the AFL.

They will roll out the memo to their media teams to normalise the decision and "hey presto" pick 2 is a fair thing.

What does it matter to Hawthorn. We need to focus on the things we can control such as luring free agents and optimising trades. Over to you Roughy

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I’m with Nelk, and seemingly Sam is too.

We need a couple of key pillars for us to lift a few levels.

I won’t be at all surprised if we find that some small additions have a big impact on the output of the side.

Battle/Melican into our side would see a direct benefit to Sic and Scrim, and allow us to move Weddle and/or CJ up the ground.

I’m pretty content with the middle of the ground and how that is building with Day, Newk and Frenchy, but some added zip from Baz would be ideal.

Lewis being fit is obviously the topic of the day, but if we can get another tall in next to him and Chol to bring the ball down to Ginni, Wiz and Moore we’ll really start to punish some sides.

We are not that far away from having very different side and output, but we’d have to land a couple of the players Nelk has mentioned, of course.

 

[hardway]

Pick 2 for Zurhaar? The club offering that sort of coin to sign him is a bigger basket case than North.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

I’m with Nelk, and seemingly Sam is too.

We need a couple of key pillars for us lift a few levels.

I won’t be at all surprised if we find that some small additions have a big impact on the output of the side.

Battle/Melican into our side would see a direct benefit to Sic and Scrim, and allow us to move Weddle and/or CJ up the ground.

I’m pretty content with the middle of the ground and how that is building with Day, Newk and Frenchy, but some added zip from Baz would be ideal.

Lewis being fit is obviously the topic of the day, but if we can get another tall in next to him and Chol to bring the ball down to Ginni, Wiz and Moore we’ll really start to punish some sides.

We are not that far away from having very different side and output, but we’d have to land a couple of the players Nelk has mentioned, of course.

Maybe I am I just not as sold on a few as some on here which is fine, everyone sees these things differently.

I do agree that simply addressing a few big holes could have a flow on effect for some that are being asked to play a different role. Simply getting Sicily back to his best would make us instantly a much better team. Just think we have more holes to fix before we are ready to make that sort of leap.

Meek is putting together a good patch but I’d like to see more before I am confident we have our long term rucks sorted. We currently have 0 key defenders on the list that I am very confident will be long term pillars for us (no shade to some of the young ones just need to see it first).

Guys like Ward, Mackenzie are developing and hopefully they can make a big jump but at the moment it is more glimpses and I am not sure they will be ready to shoulder enough of a load to drag the team close to the 8 in the time frame.

i was hoping this would be a year where we could really see signs of it all coming together even if it didn’t necessarily translate to a lot of wins yet and next year could be our break out year.

Currently I think we have more questions about a lot of the guys we were hoping would carry the next era of the football club.

Either way I agree that all the targets make sense and will make us better so fingers crossed we can use some of that cap to good effect.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Maybe I am I just not as sold on a few as some on here which is fine, everyone sees these things differently.

I do agree that simply addressing a few big holes could have a flow on effect for some that are being asked to play a different role. Simply getting Sicily back to his best would make us instantly a much better team. Just think we have more holes to fix before we are ready to make that sort of leap.

Meek is putting together a good patch but I’d like to see more before I am confident we have our long term rucks sorted. We currently have 0 key defenders on the list that I am very confident will be long term pillars for us (no shade to some of the young ones just need to see it first).

Guys like Ward, Mackenzie are developing and hopefully they can make a big jump but at the moment it is more glimpses and I am not sure they will be ready to shoulder enough of a load to drag the team close to the 8 in the time frame.

i was hoping this would be a year where we could really see signs of it all coming together even if it didn’t necessarily translate to a lot of wins yet and next year could be our break out year.

Currently I think we have more questions about a lot of the guys we were hoping would carry the next era of the football club.

Either way I agree that all the targets make sense and will make us better so fingers crossed we can use some of that cap to good effect.

Yes, I was bullish on what we might be able to do this year, and if not for a couple of injuries… who knows we might have even had 3 wins by now(Bombers, Pies and Roos) if Day played from Round 1.

But I think the problem we all saw in November of 2023 is still the same problem we have in May of 2024.

We are the second youngest list in the comp, by a very small margin to North. Injuries to best 22 players have a big impact on us, and we have a spine that we simply needed to keep fit to compete well each week.

As a result we’re asking a bit more of our under 50 gamers than we probably should be and their fluctuations in output are more easily seen and ultimately impact the result, but perhaps this is going to provide a steep learning curve that helps them in the coming years.

I have all my fingers and toes crossed that we can get at least 2 of Battle, Melican and Baz, on the back of a healthier list and some better results.

 

[Sixpence]

What does it matter to Hawthorn. We need to focus on the things we can control such as luring free agents and optimising trades. Over to you Roughy

If they get Pick 2 compo, then our pick 2 gets pushed back to Pick 3 and it's yet another year where our top picks gets pushed back due to "equalization". It clearly matters to Hawthorn.

Out of curiosity, when was the last time we had a first round pick stay the same after the draft as we went in?

 

[Topiary]

His salary that The Scum paid to get him over the line is easily band1 compo. With incentives he could easily earn a mill a season with them.

I understand we offered a little more but he wanted to go to Essendon, his childhood team and saw them as offering him greater success.

 

[Platten44]

I understand we offered a little more but he wanted to go to Essendon, his childhood team and saw them as offering him greater success.

Our offer was structured to trigger band2 compo. Essendon upped their offer late.

 

[Topiary]

Our offer was structured to trigger band2 compo. Essendon upped their offer late.

Not what I was told. Anyway, lets agree to disagree.

 

[CHUBBSS]

His salary that The Scum paid to get him over the line is easily band1 compo. With incentives he could easily earn a mill a season with them.

All rational thought goes out the window with the AFL, they can just make it up as they see fit