Rumour 2024 Hypothetical trade and FA Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

2024 Picks



2025 Picks

 

[Snoref]

Caught up with my connection at the club for the first time in a long time, this isn’t much actual info, but do with it what you will.

They weren’t sure of the specific price we were going to be paying for Barrass, but mentioned the potential of a hawks player going the other way and not necessarily DGB.

No idea which players are being discussed, but interesting to hear I guess.

If I had to guess would be serong..2nd round or serong for Barrass?

 

[H00t]

Still run into the same issues tbh. Unless Dee's blow it up after it’s apparent that the run is dead and will accept picks.

Having an extra year of picks to trade will help.

Even if Trac doesn’t get traded just pushing hard for a trade will probably make it happen.

I still reckon there is a big chance he would have asked for a trade had the clubs he wanted had the picks to get it done. So instead he tries to wait it out a year and see what happens.

 

[Hawks future]

If I had to guess would be serong..2nd round or serong for Barrass?

Serong looked good today strong last 5 weeks 27 a game

 

[eaglespremiers]

West Coast board seems nuts. Convinced we're trading a first and McKenzie for Barrass.

To clarify that was my suggestion based on how highly I value Mackenzie and my post was prefaced with the fact that Hawthorn would not offer Mackenzie for trade. That's a far cry from being convinced that you'll trade a first and Mackenize for Barrass. Heck I'd take a straight swap and that wouldn't even be accepted by Hawthorn.

 

[Buckemenico]

With Battle coming over I do not see the urgency in getting barrass. We should not be offering any more than our 1st.

 

[tl92]

To clarify that was my suggestion based on how highly I value Mackenzie and my post was prefaced with the fact that Hawthorn would not offer Mackenzie for trade. That's a far cry from being convinced that you'll trade a first and Mackenize for Barrass. Heck I'd take a straight swap and that wouldn't even be accepted by Hawthorn.

Let alone Mackenzie

 

[peetoo]

The ‘enthusiasm’ is apparent…not

 

[peetoo]

Tharp time the weagles posters convinced Buddy wanted to go there, but we’re offering hot garbage in return

 

[HomerJayS]

Hopefully this ends all talk about Trac.

And ends talk about trading Weddle!

 

[perrdan86]

And ends talk about trading Weddle!

Did they even start?.. Surely no one was stupid enough to suggest that as an option?

 

[I got the outside word]

Did they even start?.. Surely no one was stupid enough to suggest that as an option?

I think there was a bit of ‘they would want Weddle’ talk, anyone that suggests actually trading Weddle for anything probably needs to be shot into the sun.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Reads like a hostage note. “I’m safe and my captors are treating me well”.

This should keep the media cycle at bay for a bit but it all sounds pretty unconvincing.

 

[Flamin Joe]

Reads like a hostage note. “I’m safe and my captors are treating me well”.

This should keep the media cycle at bay for a bit but it all sounds pretty unconvincing.

 

[TazHawk15]

If I had to guess would be serong..2nd round or serong for Barrass?

Serong is a keeper IMO and with Frost and Sicily not getting any younger, he looks a great prospect.

 

[Howe Amazing]

His brother Caleb was at the Box Hill game yesterday with Meeky hopefully laying some ground work . Even Josh Giddey was there in a hoodie which my son and his mate got a photo with. Their day was made regardless after that

 

[mustang]

Serong is a keeper IMO and with Frost and Sicily not getting any younger, he looks a great prospect.

Could we move him forward as he started as a forward, then we would have an another swing man, I'd trade frost while his value is high after a great season and keep the kid who is really showing great signs at VFL level with Barrass and battle coming in.

 

[HoldingThe Ball]

It's going to be tough for all the fringe players next season if everyone stays fit.

Barrass and Battle (plus one other possibly) mean there are 2/3 less spots.

It's the freedom to send one or two of Sicily Weddle Amon Hardwick etc etc to other places up the ground which will mean a few blokes will be considering their options this off-season.

Finn, Harry, CJ, Reeves / Ramsden, Seamus, Jai and HH all probably get a gig elsewhere else - and in the best 22 for the bottom 3 sides.

Do they take the first team action in a lower side or stay for depth and 'hope' someone gets a long-term injury.

That's the only way these guys play AFL for Hawthorn next year.

They are fringe this season - next it's VFL.

And before people bring it up - yes some have a contract.

So does Tom Barrass

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Tom Barrass

Age

30

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

- but he's moving clubs. Sometimes you sign a player up to get a better trade when they move on.

All the above have tried hard, and been good 'Hawthorn men', but the writing is on the wall with the new guys coming in.

I'd like to think we would do all we can to get them to new homes if they decide to move on.

 

[TylerDurden]

Happy birthday Josh Battle

24

Josh Battle

Age

27

Ht

193cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

196.8

3star

D

11.0

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

142.8

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

175.6

3star

!

 

[Bedi]

Every time I've seen Jack Lukosius play, I've been impressed by him.

I'm bewildered by the Suns not having a place in their side for Jack and wanting to trade him.

I'm sure Sam could get more out of him than Damien Hardwick.

If we could get a good deal while trading for Jack, I'd be happy with that.

While every other time he'll barely touch the ball. Quite possibly the most inconsistent player i've ever seen. For that reason i'd fairly hesitant to go near him

 

[Bedi]

How would we lineup with if we managed to bring in Perryman too? Would be such a headache.

Impey - Barrass - Hardwick
Sicily - Scrimshaw - Battle

Meek - Newcombe - Day
Weddle - Worpel - D'Ambrosio

Moore - Dear - MacDonald
Watson - Chol - Ginnivan

Bench:
Amon
Nash
Perryman
Mackenzie

Sub: Gunston / Breust

Depth / Trade options: Frost, Reeves, CJ, Serong, Ward, DGB, Morrison, Maginess, Scaife, Ramsden, Blanck, Hustwaite, Ryan, Macdonald, Butler

Frost has been fantastic this year, but if we get Barrass (as 99% likely) it means he'll likely be squeezed out. So how do we feel about a player who's been key to our success this year becoming a depth player at BH next year?

 

[Howe Amazing]

Frost has been fantastic this year, but if we get Barrass (as 99% likely) it means he'll likely be squeezed out. So how do we feel about a player who's been key to our success this year becoming a depth player at BH next year?

If a player is sore or slightly injured they can be rested which if we are up there is important so players are fresher come finals. I get what you mean though Frosty been very good

 

[TONYC3163]

Frost has been fantastic this year, but if we get Barrass (as 99% likely) it means he'll likely be squeezed out. So how do we feel about a player who's been key to our success this year becoming a depth player at BH next year?

It is all about creating a deep, strong list to get and be successful on GF day - while being as loyal and supportive as possible within that framework.

 

[bigmaxi]

It's going to be tough for all the fringe players next season if everyone stays fit.

Barrass and Battle (plus one other possibly) mean there are 2/3 less spots.

It's the freedom to send one or two of Sicily Weddle Amon Hardwick etc etc to other places up the ground which will mean a few blokes will be considering their options this off-season.

Finn, Harry, CJ, Reeves / Ramsden, Seamus, Jai and HH all probably get a gig elsewhere else - and in the best 22 for the bottom 3 sides.

Do they take the first team action in a lower side or stay for depth and 'hope' someone gets a long-term injury.

That's the only way these guys play AFL for Hawthorn next year.

They are fringe this season - next it's VFL.

And before people bring it up - yes some have a contract.

So does Tom Barrass - but he's moving clubs. Sometimes you sign a player up to get a better trade when they move on.

All the above have tried hard, and been good 'Hawthorn men', but the writing is on the wall with the new guys coming in.

I'd like to think we would do all we can to get them to new homes if they decide to move on.

It will be fascinating to see who the brains trust in Hawthorns list management keep on for next year, some of the players you have mentioned, in bold above, will definitely still be there, for the life of me i am not sure who. As we all know lists win flags and Sam has a plan. My fav's are Seamus, Jai , CJ and Ramsden, i can only hope. Its a wonderful conundrum to have.

 

[westhawk]

With Battle coming over I do not see the urgency in getting barrass. We should not be offering any more than our 1st.

Battle is a good defender, but he is not half the defender Barrass is. Don’t even look at those one on one crap stats. That doesn’t take into account that he is in a team that is crap, the mids don’t help out, and he covers McGoverns opponent a fair bit aswell. Plus he is stuck down there with the likes of Cole, Witherdon, Hough. If he was a selfish defender, and just stuck to his man , he would hardly be beaten.

 

[peetoo]

It is all about creating a deep, strong list to get and be successful on GF day - while being as loyal and supportive as possible within that framework.

Do we need a crisis like current Carlton one to realise this?