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List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2
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Richmond likely prefer 9,10 which is fine. We can sweeten if necessary with 27 and F2 and get some of their later picks in return.
If they are set on three first round picks then we go to Sydney etc. and get them their three picks whilst retaining one ourselves.
For mine the outcome is:
Bolton only > retain pick 10 and F1 (the rest is on the table)
Bolton and Baker combo > retain 16 and F1 (the rest is on the table)
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I would be expecting at best to be 9, 10 and 27 or 9, 10, 16 with Bolton, Baker and 21.
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We need to keep 9 or 10 in the draft, no way I'm giving up a top 10 just to get Baker. Baker can stay at the tigers, or we trade f1st for him/Bolton in a weaker draft.
9 + f1st for Bolton, 16 (spew it should be 27) for Baker.
Go to the draft with 10, 16/27.
Next year if Warner requests a trade we can figure it out at that time.
* If we can do Baker + 21 for 16 + 27 that might be tolerable.
9 + f1st for Bolton, 16 (spew it should be 27) for Baker.
Go to the draft with 10, 16/27.
Next year if Warner requests a trade we can figure it out at that time.
* If we can do Baker + 21 for 16 + 27 that might be tolerable.
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We won't be able to trade for Warner without a first next year. We dont have to trade anything forward but we can't get a deal done without a first next year. Need that level of planning at least.
Would be nicer if he finishes his contract and heads back as a 30 year old instead
9,10,27,F2 - we can have some late ones back (41,47)
21 is going to push back quite a bit - I’d rather keep 16. My original proposal was optimistic with 16 upgraded to 12/15 but that was based on breaking the two deals down separately on fair value worth. Walls has said he wants to go into this draft with a first round pick and I’m hoping like Jordan they will roll the dice n other pieces to make that happen.
Aren't they putting in trading 2 years in advance...I figured we can trade 2026 and 2027 1st. Otherwise we may need to trade a player to get picks.
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9 & 16 for Bolton is overs but understandable.
Why is Baker worth 10 with 21 coming back? Seems overs for an uncontracted player.
That is why I think WC are in the box seat with pick 23.
My original proposal that had many say I’m dreaming broke it down to two separate fair trades. Below is a comparison against two similar player trades.
Neale (Contracted), 30 > 6,19,55
Bolton (Contracted), 41 > 9,16
Langdon (OOC), 26 > 22, F2
Baker (OOC), 12, 29 > 10, 27, F2
Definitely the WC factor will be one of the key drivers of Baker's price. We just need to figure what's close enough to that tradewise and then Liam can decide what he wants to get on board with.
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In order to secure the available experienced talent this year, do you think the club would be more willing to pay overs since they got overs for their current hand?
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I don't think it's enough. You need a current first at least, that gets to insulting levels otherwise
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If it is just Bolton we’re bringing across in 2024 Trade period, we are reportedly shopping around one of our picks for a good F1. So that alone supports what exactly what you’re saying. I agree Swans won’t want 2027 draft picks. They will still be in the mix and that draft will be heavily compromised.
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Hope he stays for 1 more. Not his biggest fan but him, Baker, Bolton and Freddy together would be awesome to see.
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I really dont want to send a pick into next year if it's just Bolton, I hope we dont do that. I think that's really stupid, or, at the very least, it's just one 1st round pick next year. The more we have, the more is demanded for Warner
For mine, this is a draft to go with later picks if ever there was one because of the depth probably even all the way to pick 40 - I don't know there is much difference in quality between a pick 15 to a pick 30. It is also arguably a year to go majority "Brand WA" because otherwise we have players sitting around with high "go home" factor, and because of said eveness and the fact that it is mainly the Vics who will be up first in the draft, everyone apart from Bo Allan is likely to go later than pick 25, including Hamish Davis and Gayle Gerryn who are still really really good prospects IMO.
So if the offer to lose all of 9,10 and 16 in return for Bolton, a likely decent next year first round (ideally Kangaroos - for being part of a potential Warner trade) and a second rounder around the 25-30 mark (Leaving us with that and the Saints second rounder), I would do it.
But I think there is also a bit a water to go under the bridge before that which further complicates matters; we don't know yet which players want to be traded from the club / the club is willing to let go to other clubs for decent deals. My ears pricked up at the way the club mentioned Cox (My interpretation is that it sounds both we and Cox are open to a trade for the right price to Adelaide or Port) and I am not sure what will happen with Switkowski.
So if the offer to lose all of 9,10 and 16 in return for Bolton, a likely decent next year first round (ideally Kangaroos - for being part of a potential Warner trade) and a second rounder around the 25-30 mark (Leaving us with that and the Saints second rounder), I would do it.
But I think there is also a bit a water to go under the bridge before that which further complicates matters; we don't know yet which players want to be traded from the club / the club is willing to let go to other clubs for decent deals. My ears pricked up at the way the club mentioned Cox (My interpretation is that it sounds both we and Cox are open to a trade for the right price to Adelaide or Port) and I am not sure what will happen with Switkowski.
Don't think the club has mentioned Cox at all
Cox was mentioned. The only mention was from Briety who said there had been an enquiry from a club about Cox and the response from Freo was Cox would not be traded.
We all know who that club is and they ask the same question every year. That is Adelaide Crows.
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