2024 Rolling ALL-Australian Team

[windyhill]

If you're looking for a team of the week thread, this isn't it.

I love Ridley, but unless he can manage to get in the top 10 for intercept marks, score involvements and score launches amongst defenders (and I'm talking totals) there's close to a 0% chance he gets in the squad, let alone the side.

So it’s all locked up.

 

[eth-dog]

So it’s all locked up.

For Ridley? Yes. He's missed too much footy. The baseline for missing a chunk of games is Gary Ablett in 2014. He played 2/3 of the season and from memory it wasn't until round 20 that he dropped out of the top 10 for disposals.

 

[gandaal]

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Freo are a game out of the eight, and he personally lost you one game due to his own stupidity.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

How about stats for forwards who subtly block an opponent to allow a team mate to mark? Or make a dummy lead to drag an opponent away to create space for a team mate to mark? Or for the player who puts pressure on in the forward line before a team mate comes in to lay the tackle that wins HTB?

There are any number of actions players can do to create scoring opportunities for others. Where do you stop?

Yes, that’s true - it’s already a very data rich sport suppose we go into information overload if we track everything

For instance someone like Gulden would run patterns where he knows he won’t get the ball but he drags players across opening the play up for others as a result

 

[WilloTree]

Freo are a game out of the eight, and he personally lost you one game due to his own stupidity.

Just posting what was written mate, as I thought it was relevant to the thread.

(psst - half a game)

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Freo are a game out of the eight, and he personally lost you one game due to his own stupidity.

Look i dislike Freo as much as the next person, but they are one game out of the top 4.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Why is Jason Horne Francis not in your teams?

 

[Bollox]

Impossible team to pick.

Defenders a lottery. Any of the below (in the mix) can be in.

FB: Luke Ryan -Sam Taylor- Dan Houston

HB: Nick Blakey-Steven May-Max Holmes

C: Errol Gulden-Zach Merrett(VC)-Zak Butters

HF: Chad Warner-Jesse Hogan-Christian Petrecca

FF: Kyle Langford-Charlie Curnow-Tyson Stengle

R: Max Gawn(C)-Isaac Heeney-Nick Daicos

Int: Patrick Cripps-Tom Green- Marcus Bontempelli-Caleb Serong

In the mix:

Defenders: Harris Andrews, Jacob Weitering, Alex Pearce, Nick Vlaustin, Dayne Zorko, Lachie Whitfield

Midfielders: Matt Rowell, Noah Anderson, Adam Treloar

Ruck: Brodie Grundy, Rohan Marshall

Forwards: Izak Rankine, Bailey Fritsch, Jake Waterman, Ben King, Harry McKay, Jeremy Cameron

Needs more midfielders. 11 wont cut it.

 

[Bollox]

My current side:

FB: Luke Ryan - Harris Andrews - Dan Houston
HB: Max Holmes - Sam Taylor - Nick Blakey
MF: Zak Butters - Isaac Heeney - Zach Merrett
HF: Christian Petracca - Jesse Hogan - Kyle Langford
FF: Tyson Stengle - Charlie Curnow - Ben King
OB: Max Gawn - Caleb Serong - Nick Daicos
IC: Marcus Bontempelli - Chad Warner - Noah Anderson - Tom Green

Nice team

 

[blueiris]

Why is Jason Horne Francis not in your teams?

Hello Kane Cornes how’s the family

 

[Lingsface]

Luke Ryan Sam Taylor

15

Sam Taylor

Age

25

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

Andrew Mcgrath

1

Andrew Mcgrath

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

1.2

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

219.0

4star

Jordan Dawson

12

Jordan Dawson

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

15.7

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

Alex Pearce

25

Alex Pearce

Age

29

Ht

201cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

106.3

2star

No current season stats available

D

11.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

6.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

MG

103.2

2star

Nick Blakey

22

Nick Blakey

Age

24

Ht

196cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.4

4star

MG

189.1

3star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.6

4star

MG

189.1

3star

D

7.2

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.2

2star

T

1.2

3star

Errol Gulden Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

29

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

Chad Warner

1

Chad Warner

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.5

4star

CL

0.0

1star

Isaac Heeney

5

Isaac Heeney

Age

28

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

4.1

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

14.3

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.5

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.8

3star

Charlie Curnow

30

Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

Ja Waterman
Tyson Stengle

18

Tyson Stengle

Age

25

Ht

175cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.3

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

10.3

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

8.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.6

5star

Jesse Hogan

23

Jesse Hogan

Age

29

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

C Petracca

M Gawn Caleb Serong

3

Caleb Serong

Age

23

Ht

180cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

Marcus Bontompelli

Ben King

34

Ben King

Age

23

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

Jordan Clark

6

Jordan Clark

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.5

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

172.0

3star

D

12.2

3star

K

10.4

4star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

Zac Butters Joe Daniher.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Can we talk about Harris Andrews

31

Harris Andrews

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

season so far? I'm obviously bias in that I'd like Weitering to finally be rewarded after multiple years of getting snubbed for the final 22 but I feel like Andrews has been far worse than his individual stat lines look this season.

Lions are having a shocking year so far with multiple key forwards dining out on them throughout that. How much accountability does Andrews hold for that or is it more blamed on his teammates and the dysfunction further afield?

Statistically he's probably the best or close to the best performed KPD right now but in years past KPD's have been overlooked due to their overall team's defense and players from stingier teams have been selected... Stewart's practically been gifted 2 jackets simply by playing for Geelong while their team defense has been a strong point.

What are others thoughts?

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Seriously wanna vom every time I see someone name Luke Ryan in their team.

 

[raskolnikov]

Luke Ryan Sam Taylor Andrew Mcgrath
Jordan Dawson Alex Pearce Nick Blakey
Errol Gulden Patrick Cripps Chad Warner
Isaac Heeney Charlie Curnow Ja Waterman
Tyson Stengle Jesse Hogan C Petracca

M Gawn Caleb Serong Marcus Bontompelli

Ben King Jordan Clark Zac Butters Joe Daniher.

No Zach Merrett is taking the piss.

 

[RonnieRaven]

Seriously wanna vom every time I see someone name Luke Ryan in their team.

Why he’s Elite

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Ryan - Taylor - Blakey
Clark - McGovern - Flanders
Gulden - Serong - Merrett (C)
Petracca - Hogan - Bontempelli
King - Curnow - Rankine
Gawn (VC) - Heeney - Rowell

Warner - Butters - N.Daicos - Cripps

Few players pushing the team. Houston, Treloar, Holmes, Green, Whitfield, Waterman. Tough team to get into.

 

[Maxabillions]

Weitering
Cripps
Curnow
Mckay
Walsh

All locked in.

Newman
Acres

Destined for the squad.

Williams making his claim for a bench spot as a lockdown defender, rebounding half back, and 4 goal a game half forward

Looks like Carlton are the one to watch out for for the flag then

 

[The 747]

Geelong: Ollie Henry (72), Tom Hawkins (43), Jeremy Cameron (40)

Thanks, that's very interesting for Geelong - not that it has much bearing on AA.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Why he’s Elite

Hell no.

He's a decent defender who pads his stats with kickouts, chip kicks sideways and long bombs to 50/50 contests. There's no creativity or dare with his disposal at all.

The definition of a Supercoach player. Looks great on paper because of Freo's shitty, risk adverse game plan but does little damage to the opposition.

Joel Bowden MKII

 

[SSwans2011]

Can we talk about Harris Andrews season so far? I'm obviously bias in that I'd like Weitering to finally be rewarded after multiple years of getting snubbed for the final 22 but I feel like Andrews has been far worse than his individual stat lines look this season.

Lions are having a shocking year so far with multiple key forwards dining out on them throughout that. How much accountability does Andrews hold for that or is it more blamed on his teammates and the dysfunction further afield?

Statistically he's probably the best or close to the best performed KPD right now but in years past KPD's have been overlooked due to their overall team's defense and players from stingier teams have been selected... Stewart's practically been gifted 2 jackets simply by playing for Geelong while their team defense has been a strong point.

What are others thoughts?

I've watched every Lions game. Andrews has been amazing. He's had his best year in some time IMO. I've watched almost every Giants game too, and I'd currently have him ahead of Sam Taylor too, but those are the 2 clear standouts.

Some of their losses would have been much worse without him. He's close to the only player that played in the Grand Final for them last year that's having a better year this year. Berry, McCarthy (pre-injury) and maybe Zorko and Dainher are the only other players I would say have been noticeably better this year than they were last year. Everyone else has regressed/stagnated or is injured.

 

[RonnieRaven]

Hell no.

He's a decent defender who pads his stats with kickouts, chip kicks sideways and long bombs to 50/50 contests. There's no creativity or dare with his disposal at all.

The definition of a Supercoach player. Looks great on paper because of Freo's shitty, risk adverse game plan but does little damage to the opposition.

Joel Bowden MKII

ELITE
One percenters
Intercepts
Score launches
defensive one on ones
Metres gained
Efficiency

 

[gandaal]

ELITE
One percenters
Intercepts
Score launches
defensive one on ones
Metres gained
Efficiency

Chip chip footy certainly helps make the stats look good.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

ELITE
One percenters
Intercepts
Score launches
defensive one on ones
Metres gained
Efficiency

He stands in the middle of the half back line and has blokes switching the ball from both sides of the field to him just for so he can either chip it sideways or bomb it down the line to a contest, rarely ever actually doing anything of value with the ball. He also trails his opponent by 15m most of the time, is prone to a few absolute howlers per game that result directly in goals and plays in the slowest, most boring system going around which favours defenders who want to rack up meaningless touches while doing absolutely SFA once they've actually got it.

Reminds me a hell of a lot of when Aaron Hall was basically a supercoach seagul god for North and never even made the squad. Selectors knew he was just racking up trash every week padding his stats any way he could.

 

[SSwans2011]

ELITE
One percenters
Intercepts
Score launches
defensive one on ones
Metres gained
Efficiency

Can't argue with most of that, but he's miles off elite in defensive one on ones. 1.4 per game which is 73rd in the league on average well behind Pearce (who is having an excellent season and definitely worthy of selection in the squad himself) and even behind Draper as far as Freo go.

 

[SSwans2011]

Hell no.

He's a decent defender who pads his stats with kickouts, chip kicks sideways and long bombs to 50/50 contests. There's no creativity or dare with his disposal at all.

The definition of a Supercoach player. Looks great on paper because of Freo's shitty, risk adverse game plan but does little damage to the opposition.

Joel Bowden MKII

Jake Lloyd is another example. I love that he's reinvented himself this season and he's been very consistent for his whole career, but I'm not sure that I've ever believed he was more than a B-grader despite being a Supercoach god at his peak.