Rumour 2024 Rumours and Speculation Part 3

[adelaidecrows]

That he is one of the best Crows player of all time but clearly not in the league of the others, last few years hasn't been his best but doesn't discount what he archived before then.

I 100% agree. Its a bit old now this sorry playbook this we like to play when we want to move senior players on years before they expire.

 

[Mostyn]

Why jump the increase to $200K+ and make him the highest player on the list, offer him $50-$100K more and a longer contract then and there is news he want to come back home. Rankine and Dawson are the only 2 players who should be at $1M+ and unlikely we will be in a bidding war with Port Power like what happened with Lukosius last year unless they loss a player like Butters who is supposedly only on $800K.

His manager would laugh us out of the room.

Who is uprooting themselves and moving clubs and states for $50k? We'd be ridiculed for suggesting it.

 

[Mostyn]

I 100% agree. Its a bit old now this sorry playbook this we like to play when we want to move senior players on years before they expire.

what

 

[Scorpus]

Looking at the entirety of their career, would you say Rory Sloane or Rory Laird is closer to "best Crows player" status?

 

[adelaidecrows]

Looking at the entirety of their career, would you say Rory Sloane or Rory Laird is closer to "best Crows player" status?

neither but both are around the top 10 which is a massive achievement and should be respected.

 

[Mostyn]

Key position players...

Middle of the road key defenders.

Are you saying that's more valuable than NWM?

If so, then we definitely shouldn't get him.

 

[Mutineer]

His manager would laugh us out of the room.

Who is uprooting themselves and moving clubs and states for $50k? We'd be ridiculed for suggesting it.

What if the rumours are correct he truly wants home to be with family and friends, money then becomes secondary because wherever he plays he'll be well paid for his services.

 

[Mutineer]

Middle of the road key defenders.

Are you saying that's more valuable than NWM?

If so, then we definitely shouldn't get him.

LOL
You've chosen a strange hill to die on.

 

[Scorpus]

neither but both are around the top 10 which is a massive achievement and should be respected.

I'm just curious which player people rank higher.

They've both had quite similar careers in terms of accolades, longevity, contract annoyance, performance in latter years, etc

 

[spenze]

I 100% agree. Its a bit old now this sorry playbook this we like to play when we want to move senior players on years before they expire.

Like Smith for instance, we moved him on...no wait, we got him another contract

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Like Smith for instance, we moved him on...no wait, we got him another contract

Let's respect Smith this year. Been a fantastic player. I hope he doesn't become a whipping boy.

 

[Cromulant]

I'm just curious which player people rank higher.

They've both had quite similar careers in terms of accolades, longevity, contract annoyance, performance in latter years, etc

Sloane for mine.

Rory (Laird) was a very good player, particularly across half back.

Sloane at his best was a better, more important player.

 

[DJ75]

Sloane for mine.

Rory was a very good player, particularly across half back.

Sloane at his best was a better, more important player.

Sloane was the heart and soul of the team. An utterly fearless competitor.
I have him well ahead of Laird who is a good player, but I fear became more of a stat padder in his later career.

 

[ABAB]

His manager would laugh us out of the room.

Who is uprooting themselves and moving clubs and states for $50k? We'd be ridiculed for suggesting it.

I did say $50-100K and it's still $50-100K more than their offer if he does want to return home so he isn't really moving states, over 7 years that will be $350-700K.

 

[ABAB]

Like Smith for instance, we moved him on...no wait, we got him another contract

Well, someone decided to continue to played him when his form was shit to trigger a contract extension clause......if Nicks really want to play Finals then he can't make this mistake again with Laird.

 

[Scorpus]

Sloane for mine.

Rory (Laird) was a very good player, particularly across half back.

Sloane at his best was a better, more important player.

I agree but I think you could make a case that Laird has performed at a good level for longer.

From 2015 to 2019 he was a great player in defense and achieved two All Australians and a B&F. Then he performed to a good level in the midfield for a further 3 or 4 years and won two more B&Fs in that role (albeit a much weaker side). Eight top 5 B&F finishes.

Sloane was great in the midfield between 2012 and 2019, AA, two B&Fs and six top 5 B&F finishes. Missed a chunk of 2018 through injury. He did fall off a bit a few years after Dangerfield left.

I would still have Sloane's peak giving him the edge over Laird's consistency

 

[Coopers]

His manager would laugh us out of the room.

Who is uprooting themselves and moving clubs and states for $50k? We'd be ridiculed for suggesting it.

A lot of the general population would though. 50k is a lot of cash.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

His manager would laugh us out of the room.

Who is uprooting themselves and moving clubs and states for $50k? We'd be ridiculed for suggesting it.

Eddie Betts

Hopefully St Kilda has another stinky season. North Melbourne too. It will be easier to prise players away if their club is a laughing stock like Carlton were.

We are hopefully on the up but not yet anywhere near the stage where good performances have been pushing up wage demands. And about to lose Tex, Smith and hopefully O'Brien who would all be on decent coin so should have room to make trade plays.

 

[Big Dub]

Devils advocate here, as I do like NWM, but DE stats for a loose checking half-back/winger aren't exactly a fair comparison against 2 guys who play their games under far greater pressure.

Absolutely correct. His contested posession % is WAY lower. But it does show what his weapons are!

 

[Mostyn]

LOL
You've chosen a strange hill to die on.

No, I really like the guy.

I just think we should be realistic about what he'll cost.

$1m+ and two firsts (or a top five pick), with maybe something back.

There's no debate if you just assume you're getting a player for pennies in the dollar. But he won't, so we should discuss it realistically. He'll cost similar to Rankine.

 

[Mostyn]

I'm just curious which player people rank higher.

They've both had quite similar careers in terms of accolades, longevity, contract annoyance, performance in latter years, etc

Probably Sloane.

 

[Mostyn]

A lot of the general population would though. 50k is a lot of cash.

$25k after tax. Honestly, a lot wouldn't move states for that either.

 

[1990crow]

Eddie Betts

Hopefully St Kilda has another stinky season. North Melbourne too. It will be easier to prise players away if their club is a laughing stock like Carlton were.

We are hopefully on the up but not yet anywhere near the stage where good performances have been pushing up wage demands. And about to lose Tex, Smith and hopefully O'Brien who would all be on decent coin so should have room to make trade plays.

And Lairds contract ends next year too.
Salary shouldn't be a problem.

If we got Goad and NWM there's not too many holes in the list anymore.

 

[Mostyn]

Eddie Betts

Average AFL wage in 2013 was $260k.

In 2025 it is $520k.

Different times ...

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Average AFL wage in 2013 was $260k.

In 2025 it is $520k.

Different times ...

So $100k