Training 2024 training updates.

[cityslick1]

Oppo mids gonna need to pack a spare pair of shorts if JDG and Beau play in the middle this season

All fans talk like this...

Bombers said the same about Stringer, Blues about Cripps, Port about Powell-Pepper.... and North about Cunnington ffs. Will never forget seeing North fans typing in glee about Cunnington 'rag-dolling" our mids, after their side just lost to us by 66 points.

All clubs have big bodies the midfield. Some aggression is definitely good, but its their skills that I'm more excited about helping us win games...

 

[Markfs]

I tend to question whether our club is taking its duty of care responsibilities seriously, if it is putting the big bodies of jordy and beau in the midfield and allowing them to ragdoll opposition. Surely, the club forsees the likely injury issues....

 

[eyeroller]

All fans talk like this...

Bombers said the same about Stringer, Blues about Cripps, Port about Powell-Pepper.... and North about Cunnington ffs. Will never forget seeing North fans typing in glee about Cunnington 'rag-dolling" our mids, after their side just lost to us by 66 points.

All clubs have big bodies the midfield. Some aggression is definitely good, but its their skills that I'm more excited about helping us win games...

It was a joke

 

[Pistol Night]

I tend to question whether our club is taking its duty of care responsibilities seriously, if it is putting the big bodies of jordy and beau in the midfield and allowing them to ragdoll opposition. Surely, the club forsees the likely injury issues....

I forsee it, and I forlike it

 

[petrie pie]

The dementia aspect has me concerned. I've been knocked out multiple times. I must admit, I don't have any of the symptoms of CTE, but it still scares the s**t out of me

I think you are just being sensible mate look at the number of boxers who have become "punchy" but not just boxers but any high impact sport.Ice hockey and both codes of rugby.I use to go and watch a lot of rugby union in 70,s and 80,s and believe me there were some brutal hits and nothing worse than seeing a bloke knocked out cold but his legs are shaking.

Thank god these sort of things are rare these days but anyone of a certain age have seen this and worse but like I say rarely these days which is a good thing.

 

[BillyElliott]

Judging from the photo looking up at him from below, I'd say he is drinking more than ever. What an awful article. What is the point of examining players then clearing them to continue, only to have those who seem to know more than the doctors (without actually knowing anything) insisting he should have retired?

To be fair, Slobbo probably does know a bit about self inflicted brain damage.

 

[Markfs]

I forsee it, and I forlike it

because of the club's duty of care for other players, it might have to ban bloodthirsty guys like you Pistol from going to games and encouraging our players to hit the opposition...

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I think you are just being sensible mate look at the number of boxers who have become "punchy" but not just boxers but any high impact sport.

CTE was originally called “dementia pugilistica”. True story.

And it wasn’t caused by a few concussions but a zillion jabs to the head.

 

[petrie pie]

CTE was originally called “dementia pugilistica”. True story.

And it wasn’t caused by a few concussions but a zillion jabs to the head.

Tough way to make a living no doubt.

 

[JuniorB]

i read yesterday that picking your nose can give you dementia.....it seems that bugs get inside to the brain via the nose. My doctor has wired my nose up with a cage so that I cant pick it.....for my own good.

However, I've told him that i'm feeling suicidal because i'm no longer attractive to women...or should i say, even less attractive..... he gave me 5 courses of pills

You know, the wire cages on the top of Champagne bottles are great for that.
Just bend them a bit to fit around your nose.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Lmao, this isn't about "for" or "against" the club, it's about a young man's health. Did you watch the report on retired NRL players dealing with early onset dementia and other brain issues from their NRL days? It's horrific. You wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy, let alone a premiership hero.

I've read lots of reports from top concussion experts that say people like Murphy are in serious trouble long term. That is backed up by what I've witnessed from ex-boxers, ex-NRL players and other ex AFL players who have all had CTE or other massive brain issues post footy.

The medical assessment cleared him. What more do you want?

 

[BillyElliott]

The medical assessment cleared him. What more do you want?

Agree. I missed the part where players are being forced to play against their wishes.

 

[Kappa]

The medical assessment cleared him. What more do you want?

What if the medical assessment is completely flaw and unreliable? Like the concussion test that allowed a concussed Murphy back onto the field. What then?

 

[Apex36]

Tomorrow is @ 12:30 tomorrow.

I thought tomorrow is at 12.00am tomorrow.

 

[Apex36]

The only thing experts are in agreement over is a lot of hits to the brain is very bad for your long term health.

"How many concussions are too many?​

Experts say there’s no “magic number.” Mark Halstead, the director of the Sports Concussion Program at Washington University in St. Louis, said you could put 10 concussion experts in a room and get 10 different answers to the question. For him, it depends on the patient, the severity of symptoms and their medical history."


So you can actually argue against experts, especially when other experts disagree with them.

Do you seriously believe Murphy will be fine if he keeps getting smashed in the head multiple times per season ?

Pretty sure the actual experts involved in Murphy’s case agreed that he can play on, so you’re wrong again.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Be honest, Fat Spider. Is that a selfie?

Come on, that guy is wearing pants.

 

[Markfs]

What if the medical assessment is completely flaw and unreliable? Like the concussion test that allowed a concussed Murphy back onto the field. What then?

Then he's going to get brain problems in the future and stopping him playing football now will bring him no benefits at all. He might have been stuffed after his first concussion or his second.

 

[Markfs]

Don’t laugh.
The players used to wear YAKKA dressing gowns between quarters to stay warm.

malcolm blight used to wear a smoking jacket...

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

What if the medical assessment is completely flaw and unreliable? Like the concussion test that allowed a concussed Murphy back onto the field. What then?

Faark. Where would it end?
What if the medical assessment that looked at the follow on medical assessment…that reciewed the original medical assessment that was sought after the independent medical assessment, which occurred after the on field assessment….was wrong?

Where would we stand then?

At some point….the individual has to make a choice.
Club cannot bar him, that would (I assume) be an immediate breach of contract and not only net the player a payout, but also damages for earnings.
Minefield.

 

[Gone Critical]

What if the medical assessment is completely flaw and unreliable? Like the concussion test that allowed a concussed Murphy back onto the field. What then?

You cant live your life on what ifs. There will always be what ifs. What you want in these situations is good quality expert advice giving you the pros and cons so you can make an informed decision.

You have to presume Murphy has been given that and made an appropriate decision. Nobody can give guarantees.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Re

What if the medical assessment is completely flaw and unreliable? Like the concussion test that allowed a concussed Murphy back onto the field. What then?

We should ban medical assessments in future and base players career decisions on the biggest noisemakers on media and social media.

 

[Markfs]

You know, the wire cages on the top of Champagne bottles are great for that.
Just bend them a bit to fit around your nose.

i'm always grateful for advice from a fellow nose picker...

 

[The Royal Sampler]

What if the medical assessment is completely flaw and unreliable? Like the concussion test that allowed a concussed Murphy back onto the field. What then?

If you’re looking for a “flawless” and 100% “reliable” test, you won’t find one. They simply don’t exist.

On the field they use the test which is the most quick and simple to administer, while providing meaningful results. When they do the HIA they use a test which is more comprehensive and refers back to baseline data. These are the best tests we have which can be administered in that time and place.

You can make the argument that he was clearly adversely affected by the contact, that it was forceful, that he stayed down afterwards for a while… if you get hit hard in the head it bloody hurts and you take a while to gather yourself whether concussion enters the equation or not. If they test for concussion and there is no evidence of it, and he’s willing to return to the field, we have no right to keep him off based on nothing.

And once there was evidence of concussion, the appropriate decision was made and he never got back on the field. The protocols worked even though the symptoms were delayed, and the medical staff would rightly view it as a job well done rather than a failure.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

What if the medical assessment is completely flaw and unreliable? Like the concussion test that allowed a concussed Murphy back onto the field. What then?

There are times in life you have to trust the judgement of professionals. If there judgement is wrong, you pay the penalty. But what you don't do is seek the opinion of a professional then ignore it. Medical professionals operating at such a high profile level are almost certain to err on the side of caution, so when the verdict on someone like Murphy is that he is fit to play, why would he question it?

If Murphy and the club accept the positive assessment and move on, why would you as a supporter, knowing next to nothing of the guy's situation, want to demand that he cease playing? Frankly, I just don't get why you are so insistent that he give up the game. Makes no sense whatsoever to me. For someone like Murphy who obviously thrives on his enjoyment of a sport in which he is gifted, a decision to quit against contrary medical advice would seem utterly ludicrous.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Re

We should ban medical assessments in future and base players career decisions on the biggest noisemakers on media and social media.

Given that the evidence around blows to the head in terms of CTE revolves around “exposure” over time, it’s appropriate to consider that there are lifetime smokers who never get lung cancer, and people who spend all day, every day out in the Sun and never develop melanoma.

It’s great that we have developed some means of assessing neurological function in the presence of head trauma, so we don’t have to treat everyone based on rudimentary formulas or trial by media.