List Mgmt. 2025 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[bedford]

Thanks. Nicest compliment I've ever had on this forum

Your okay , but where is Buddy

 

[Membling]

What position is connector ?

Releasing mark down the line.

But he played all over the park across the flanks and wing. Even utility doesn't really fit

 

[RUNVS]

I think our choice in who we draft in the first round over the last 10 years or so is affecting us now. We as a club refuse to acknowledge the holes in our list, or can't see the holes for some reason, and as a result we have not plugged those holes with talented younger players.

We needed to draft a big bodied inside mid 2 years before Josh Kennedy retired, that was the time to do it since Kennedy was coming to an end. We didn't do that though, and worse still, still have not done it. Kennedy retired quite a long time ago now as we still have made no attempt to replace him.

 

[Slingshot Footy]

Question - Would the club's corporate partnership with Doozy complicate our ability to trade Florent or Hayward?

Well, the boys were practically gifted that investment opportunity by some of our benefactors, so I think we have the power to negotiate our way out of that quite easily.

 

[McGowan3]

Well, the boys were practically gifted that investment opportunity by some of our benefactors, so I think we have the power to negotiate our way out of that quite easily.

Not sure if both of their long term contracts plus helping them business wise is healthy for player performance. More like an 'old boys' Amateur Footy club than a hard nosed professional outfit. Too buddy buddy for mine. Add in the state of the art facilities and maybe you get some of the soft displays we have been seeing.

 

[bedford]

I think our choice in who we draft in the first round over the last 10 years or so is affecting us now. We as a club refuse to acknowledge the holes in our list, or can't see the holes for some reason, and as a result we have not plugged those holes with talented younger players.

We needed to draft a big bodied inside mid 2 years before Josh Kennedy retired, that was the time to do it since Kennedy was coming to an end. We didn't do that though, and worse still, still have not done it. Kennedy retired quite a long time ago now as we still have made no attempt to replace him.

Really

 

[bedford]

Releasing mark down the line.

But he played all over the park across the flanks and wing. Even utility doesn't really fit

No such position and it's another wank term this days . It's like saying the King is good at Big Footy posting craft

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I think our choice in who we draft in the first round over the last 10 years or so is affecting us now. We as a club refuse to acknowledge the holes in our list, or can't see the holes for some reason, and as a result we have not plugged those holes with talented younger players.

We needed to draft a big bodied inside mid 2 years before Josh Kennedy retired, that was the time to do it since Kennedy was coming to an end. We didn't do that though, and worse still, still have not done it. Kennedy retired quite a long time ago now as we still have made no attempt to replace him.

“Touted as Josh Keenedy’s long term replacement….”

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I think we did - Roberts, Sheldrick and Mitchell were all of that ilk.

But it’s not easy to replace a champion.

 

[SwansLifer]

Doozy is their alcoholic beverage business

Ok. So nothing at all. Unless either one want to commit serious commercial law infractions.

 

[SwansLifer]

What position is connector ?

Don't be a smartass. You know it's Tinder

 

[bedford]

Don't be a smartass. You know it's Tinder

is that proper Tinder, or true Tinder

 

[Membling]

No such position and it's another wank term this days . It's like saying the King is good at Big Footy posting craft

Language changes

 

[bedford]

Language changes

What has age got to do with saying how it is

 

[Slingshot Footy]

I think our choice in who we draft in the first round over the last 10 years or so is affecting us now. We as a club refuse to acknowledge the holes in our list, or can't see the holes for some reason, and as a result we have not plugged those holes with talented younger players.

We needed to draft a big bodied inside mid 2 years before Josh Kennedy retired, that was the time to do it since Kennedy was coming to an end. We didn't do that though, and worse still, still have not done it. Kennedy retired quite a long time ago now as we still have made no attempt to replace him.

I don't think you necessarily need to draft a big-bodied midfielder, as Collingwood is proof that you can win quite well without them. However, you do need a hard-nosed accumulator who knows how to win the ball at the coal face and distribute the pill.

We've certainly neglected drafting those types in the Longmire era, as the club valued versatility over speciality in recent times. It's well noted how little he valued a player of Tom Mitchell's ilk as we all know.

I take solace in the fact that Collingwood were keen on Cleary and he is a player who in the future, if given the time, opportunity, and the right game plan will develop into the mould we are all craving. But we certainly need more of those players and if they so happen to be big-bodied in stature, so be it.

I've really liked Harvey Langford's season thus far though and he couldn't be tackled by our mob the other week so food for thought.

It is an important discussion to have.

 

[Kbroome]

I don't think you necessarily need to draft a big-bodied midfielder, as Collingwood is proof that you can win quite well without them. However, you do need a hard-nosed accumulator who knows how to win the ball at the coal face and distribute the pill.

We've certainly neglected drafting those types in the Longmire era, as the club valued versatility over speciality in recent times. It's well noted how little he valued a player of Tom Mitchell's ilk as we all know.

I take solace in the fact that Collingwood were keen on Cleary and he is a player who in the future, if given the time, opportunity, and the right game plan will develop into the mould we are all craving. But we certainly need more of those players and if they so happen to be big-bodied in stature, so be it.

I've really liked Harvey Langford's season thus far and he couldn't be tackled by our mob the other week.

It's an important discussion to have.

Collingwood's midfield this year has had either Pendlebury 191cm or Ned Long 194cm at pretty much every single centre bounce/stoppage. They are currently blowing away the competition because they are:
1. The best contested handball side
2. The half backs actually run from behind creating a wave
3. They have the best small forwards in the comp, because they actually tackle and actually kick goals

We have no tall mids

We have only got Papley and Dattoli that are genuine small forwards, the rest are midfielders or wingers that can't make the grade in their preferred position

 

[RedBloodBlackSwan]

McLean looks like he has lost weight. Not helping him.

I was saying this in the off season. McLean will never be agile so leaning him down adds virtually nothing and takes away his power. He should bulk up like a monster and tag doll the opposition.

 

[Slingshot Footy]

Not sure if both of their long term contracts plus helping them business wise is healthy for player performance. More like an 'old boys' Amateur Footy club than a hard nosed professional outfit. Too buddy buddy for mine. Add in the state of the art facilities and maybe you get some of the soft displays we have been seeing.

Sadly, it's how most footy clubs are run, I think. If it's happening here, then it's certainly happening everywhere else as well. These deals are necessary to keep the players engaged with the football club rather than leave for greener pastures. I know the same benefactors who aligned with Ollie and Will also helped support Kennedy and his now wife when she was having visa/residency troubles earlier on in their relationship.

 

[Old Kenny]

is that proper Tinder, or true Tinder

This place has become a real tinderbox since last nights game..

 

[The King!]

No such position and it's another wank term this days . It's like saying the King is good at Big Footy posting craft

Are you secondment while lpno1 is away?

 

[RUNVS]

“Touted as Josh Keenedy’s long term replacement….”

Angus Sheldrick - Player Profile - AFL

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I think we did - Roberts, Sheldrick and Mitchell were all of that ilk.

But it’s not easy to replace a champion.

Yes, and neither are considered big bodied, and only one of them was a first round selection.

 

[Kbroome]

I know there are a lot of things that could happen with player trades and everything but here is where things stand at the moment imo

We currently have #5 #23 #41 #59

At Pick 5 Will probably be pick 8/9 - draft Riley Onley

#23 #41 and #59 use to match the main 3

I think this is where they currently land

Max King

Multiple players found. Use birthday to differentiate. eg [PLAYERCARD="23/11/1962"]Joe Smith[/PLAYERCARD]

10-15 range needing between 876-1149

Noah Chamberlain 30-35
Lachie Carmichael 30-35

30-35 needs 305-409

Therefore we need somewhere in the range of 1586-1967 points to match

With #23 #41 they get 873 points. However both those picks alongside #59 will slide up and probably net us 950-1000 points meaning we probably need to just find some a 3 picks in the 40s to be able to match both Chamberlain and Carmichael.

Then we will probably have a couple of picks at the back end of the draft/rookie draft were we can just get the best goal scoring small forward alongside the best lockdown small defender because you can never have enough of them imo

 

[melbournehammer]

Releasing mark down the line.

But he played all over the park across the flanks and wing. Even utility doesn't really fit

To be honest if he became Dawson mark 2 or mark bayes mark 2 that’d do me

 

[dosser]

To be honest if he became Dawson mark 2 or mark bayes mark 2 that’d do me

Then I could add to my avatar

 

[Slingshot Footy]

Collingwood's midfield this year has had either Pendlebury 191cm or Ned Long 194cm at pretty much every single centre bounce/stoppage. They are currently blowing away the competition because they are:
1. The best contested handball side
2. The half backs actually run from behind creating a wave
3. They have the best small forwards in the comp, because they actually tackle and actually kick goals

We have no tall mids

We have only got Papley and Dattoli that are genuine small forwards, the rest are midfielders or wingers that can't make the grade in their preferred position

Again, Pendlebury isn't exactly the big-bodied archetype that some are pitching here. He's tall and lean but not a beast like JPK was.

Collingwood is doing very well but I don't think it's because they have tall mids. They have skilled players across every line who are in sync with one another and who play their role for one another superbly. They're also very well coached in their structure thanks to Craig McRae.

The handballing is an astute point though, as the Swans have tended to draft kick-first players in recent years, as that was supposedly our core game style and belief of where the game was going.

The problem with that though, is that clubs like the Bulldogs have figured out that throwing/handballing can be easily manipulated as it's easy to disguise in front of the umpires.

Our kick-first mentality through the corridor has largely been countered since midway through last year, and we have been killed by opposition that play a contrasting game style to our own.

We also lead the league in clangers because we don't have the basic skills down pat, and our lack of quality accumulators that can effectively distribute the ball plays a big part in that. The turnovers from poor handball chains are hard to watch but it shouldn't really come as a surprise when we don't draft/value those sorts of players to be on our list.

 

[bedford]

Are you secondment while lpno1 is away?

He's lurking in-between marital duties