List Mgmt. 2025 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Punts]

Still worth it for last year alone now the management of him by the coaching staff is another thing but I’m fine with Grundy for 4.

What the first 12 games

It’s a 4 year deal

Worth it atm lol

 

[joeykanga]

We are seemingly going to need a LOT of draft capital this year to acquire the academy talent.

At present, we don’t have any picks beyond our “standard” selections.

I suspect we’re going to have to acquire points (or else go into significant deficit).

And that means trading out players or pick swaps.

If we assume trading out players is the preferred avenue, who could it be?

Chad is the obvious one. But looking more likely he’ll stay.

Gus would net some points - and a move west is looking more and more likely for him.

Wicks is surely off the table.

Cleary seems unlikely to be used as trade bait, despite recent misdeeds.

Rampe, Hamling, Paton, Mitchell, Fox, Kirk and Francis realistically have no trade value.

Ladhams …. maybe?

Buller …. not sure there’s any trade value at this stage.

I suppose my point is - if Chad stays, where are the draft points coming from?

We could float a new crypto currency

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What the first 12 games

It’s a 4 year deal

Worth it atm lol

Needed a few rests but we earnt the right- blame the coaching.

I’m fine with the last year or so him being there in reserve for Will Green who should be the starting ruck by then

 

[Millky95]

Good management giving Grundy 4 and Adams 3

another 2 years for a 31 year old ruck

We didn't give Grundy those years. Collingwood did. That contract has been passed to three clubs now and Collingwood are still paying for it. Literally paying as well.

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Wouldn't be surprised to see us pass on one of them. We did it last year with Cochran

How did Joel look in the VFL on Saturday for Collingwood? Still think they were being smart ar**s when they bid for him and didn't expect us not to match.

 

[Kiama Chris]

How did Joel look in the VFL on Saturday for Collingwood? Still think they were being smart ar**s when they bid for him and didn't expect us not to match.

AF 61, 15 possessions, 4 marks, 3 tackles, no score. Better than 13 Swans and 9 Pies so middle of the road. I didn't see it so can't comment on how he looked.

 

[Kbroome]

AF 61, 15 possessions, 4 marks, 3 tackles, no score. Better than 13 Swans and 9 Pies so middle of the road. I didn't see it so can't comment on how he looked.

High Disposal Efficiency as well so looks like he had a decent game from the limited stats we get in the VFL

 

[LukeParkerno1]

AF 61, 15 possessions, 4 marks, 3 tackles, no score. Better than 13 Swans and 9 Pies so middle of the road. I didn't see it so can't comment on how he looked.

He was never the type we wanted and Andrews has a mile more potential it’s not even close actually

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Discussion on yesterday's 'Gettable' about clubs' key pre-agents

We have 3 so far for next year, but they identified Juzzy and Amartey as our key ones (Cunningham is an UFA next year)

Sydney duo Justin McInerney and Joel Amartey also loom as key potential targets one year out from free agency.


KEY 2025 'PRE-AGENTS'

Adelaide: Chayce Jones, Mitch Hinge
Brisbane: Zac Bailey, Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale
Carlton: Sam Walsh
Collingwood: Jack Crisp
Essendon: Jade Gresham, Matt Guelfi
Fremantle: Sam Switkowski, Sam Sturt
Geelong: Gryan Miers, Patrick Dangerfield, Mark O'Connor
Gold Coast: Ben King, Jarrod Witts, Lachie Weller
Greater Western Sydney: Kieren Briggs, Jack Buckley, Toby Greene, Stephen Coniglio
Hawthorn: Dylan Moore, Mitch Lewis, Jarman Impey, Ned Reeves
Melbourne: Bayley Fritsch, Tom Sparrow, Kade Chandler
North Melbourne: Bailey Scott
Port Adelaide: Zak Butters, Ollie Wines, Darcy Byrne-Jones
Richmond: Nick Vlastuin, Jack Ross, Toby Nankervis
St Kilda: Nil
Sydney: Justin McInerney, Joel Amartey
West Coast: Liam Ryan, Jeremy McGovern, Bailey Williams
Western Bulldogs: Rhylee West

Giant to wait, short MSD expected, Bombers eye NGA pair

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

 

[Cadsky]

Discussion on yesterday's 'Gettable' about clubs' key pre-agents

We have 3 so far for next year, but they identified Juzzy and Amartey as our key ones (Cunningham is an UFA next year)

Sydney duo Justin McInerney and Joel Amartey also loom as key potential targets one year out from free agency.


KEY 2025 'PRE-AGENTS'

Adelaide: Chayce Jones, Mitch Hinge
Brisbane: Zac Bailey, Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale
Carlton: Sam Walsh
Collingwood: Jack Crisp
Essendon: Jade Gresham, Matt Guelfi
Fremantle: Sam Switkowski, Sam Sturt
Geelong: Gryan Miers, Patrick Dangerfield, Mark O'Connor
Gold Coast: Ben King, Jarrod Witts, Lachie Weller
Greater Western Sydney: Kieren Briggs, Jack Buckley, Toby Greene, Stephen Coniglio
Hawthorn: Dylan Moore, Mitch Lewis, Jarman Impey, Ned Reeves
Melbourne: Bayley Fritsch, Tom Sparrow, Kade Chandler
North Melbourne: Bailey Scott
Port Adelaide: Zak Butters, Ollie Wines, Darcy Byrne-Jones
Richmond: Nick Vlastuin, Jack Ross, Toby Nankervis
St Kilda: Nil
Sydney: Justin McInerney, Joel Amartey
West Coast: Liam Ryan, Jeremy McGovern, Bailey Williams
Western Bulldogs: Rhylee West

Giant to wait, short MSD expected, Bombers eye NGA pair

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

Can't see either of them leaving but I guess you never know.

As far as draft capitol goes, wouldn't be surprised to see McLean request a trade or be put on the table. Seems surplus to our needs. Is good ruck and forward depth but goes missing and although he's had some good performances, he's never torn a game apart. Also if we do target a JUH or Oscar Allen type of forward he goes further down the pecking order.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Discussion on yesterday's 'Gettable' about clubs' key pre-agents

We have 3 so far for next year, but they identified Juzzy and Amartey as our key ones (Cunningham is an UFA next year)

Sydney duo Justin McInerney and Joel Amartey also loom as key potential targets one year out from free agency.


KEY 2025 'PRE-AGENTS'

Adelaide: Chayce Jones, Mitch Hinge
Brisbane: Zac Bailey, Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale
Carlton: Sam Walsh
Collingwood: Jack Crisp
Essendon: Jade Gresham, Matt Guelfi
Fremantle: Sam Switkowski, Sam Sturt
Geelong: Gryan Miers, Patrick Dangerfield, Mark O'Connor
Gold Coast: Ben King, Jarrod Witts, Lachie Weller
Greater Western Sydney: Kieren Briggs, Jack Buckley, Toby Greene, Stephen Coniglio
Hawthorn: Dylan Moore, Mitch Lewis, Jarman Impey, Ned Reeves
Melbourne: Bayley Fritsch, Tom Sparrow, Kade Chandler
North Melbourne: Bailey Scott
Port Adelaide: Zak Butters, Ollie Wines, Darcy Byrne-Jones
Richmond: Nick Vlastuin, Jack Ross, Toby Nankervis
St Kilda: Nil
Sydney: Justin McInerney, Joel Amartey
West Coast: Liam Ryan, Jeremy McGovern, Bailey Williams
Western Bulldogs: Rhylee West

Giant to wait, short MSD expected, Bombers eye NGA pair

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

What I'd give to get Zac Bailey! He's exactly the type we need. I won't be that unhappy if we flip Jmac for a 2nd if we utterly need the points or whatever

 

[Kiama Chris]

Discussion on yesterday's 'Gettable' about clubs' key pre-agents

We have 3 so far for next year, but they identified Juzzy and Amartey as our key ones (Cunningham is an UFA next year)

Sydney duo Justin McInerney and Joel Amartey also loom as key potential targets one year out from free agency.


KEY 2025 'PRE-AGENTS'

Adelaide: Chayce Jones, Mitch Hinge
Brisbane: Zac Bailey, Oscar McInerney, Lachie Neale
Carlton: Sam Walsh
Collingwood: Jack Crisp
Essendon: Jade Gresham, Matt Guelfi
Fremantle: Sam Switkowski, Sam Sturt
Geelong: Gryan Miers, Patrick Dangerfield, Mark O'Connor
Gold Coast: Ben King, Jarrod Witts, Lachie Weller
Greater Western Sydney: Kieren Briggs, Jack Buckley, Toby Greene, Stephen Coniglio
Hawthorn: Dylan Moore, Mitch Lewis, Jarman Impey, Ned Reeves
Melbourne: Bayley Fritsch, Tom Sparrow, Kade Chandler
North Melbourne: Bailey Scott
Port Adelaide: Zak Butters, Ollie Wines, Darcy Byrne-Jones
Richmond: Nick Vlastuin, Jack Ross, Toby Nankervis
St Kilda: Nil
Sydney: Justin McInerney, Joel Amartey
West Coast: Liam Ryan, Jeremy McGovern, Bailey Williams
Western Bulldogs: Rhylee West

Giant to wait, short MSD expected, Bombers eye NGA pair

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

Who would I be interested in?
Briggs, Buckley, Moore, Reeves. There are other good players but three of these might be acceptable in price. Moore dearer but worth it. Butters too expensive. Miers too. Chandler a good player but we have his type. Sam Walsh .
Juzzy and Party going nowhere.

 

[Bloods86]

What I'd give to get Zac Bailey! He's exactly the type we need. I won't be that unhappy if we flip Jmac for a 2nd if we utterly need the points or whatever

Would hope we sign both up.

Would be unhappy to lose Jmac. 2nd best winger in the side, especially important to retain as Lloyd is getting on.

 

[Del198236]

What I'd give to get Zac Bailey! He's exactly the type we need. I won't be that unhappy if we flip Jmac for a 2nd if we utterly need the points or whatever

you wrote 157 posts describing how good the new points system is.. You wrote we'll have no problems matching bids on our academy players
now your casually saying just 'flip JMac for points'
WTF - I still question which team you follow.. as it is clear the new points system is devastating for the northern academies.
With our entire draft hand, we won't have enough points to match a single top ten pick!

 

[Bloods86]

you wrote 157 posts describing how good the new points system is.. You wrote we'll have no problems matching bids on our academy players
now your casually saying just 'flip JMac for points'
WTF - I still question which team you follow.. as it is clear the new points system is devastating for the northern academies.
With our entire draft hand, we won't have enough points to match a single top ten pick!

Jmac is expendable if you only remember the last 6 months of footy and forget the alternatives.

 

[BLOODS FOOTY]

We are seemingly going to need a LOT of draft capital this year to acquire the academy talent.

At present, we don’t have any picks beyond our “standard” selections.

I suspect we’re going to have to acquire points (or else go into significant deficit).

And that means trading out players or pick swaps.

If we assume trading out players is the preferred avenue, who could it be?

Chad is the obvious one. But looking more likely he’ll stay.

Gus would net some points - and a move west is looking more and more likely for him.

Wicks is surely off the table.

Cleary seems unlikely to be used as trade bait, despite recent misdeeds.

Rampe, Hamling, Paton, Mitchell, Fox, Kirk and Francis realistically have no trade value.

Ladhams …. maybe?

Buller …. not sure there’s any trade value at this stage.

I suppose my point is - if Chad stays, where are the draft points coming from?

If we don’t trade anyone, then we’ll need to try and split our first round pick and/or future first round picks.
The problem is Gold Coast and Brisbane also have high end academy kids so they will be looking to do the same thing, so it might be tough to find a suiter.

 

[FreeAgent1]

If we don’t trade anyone, then we’ll need to try and split our first round pick and/or future first round picks.
The problem is Gold Coast and Brisbane also have high end academy kids so they will be looking to do the same thing, so it might be tough to find a suiter.

Won’t this help though? As suns and lions picks are all going to come in, and so instead of 44 becoming 38, 22 will become 16

 

[bedford]

We need cap space and Juzzy can go , as we did with George H.
The only ones i would take is Sam Walsh with a doctors clearance and Jack Ross

 

[FreeAgent1]

Juzzy won’t save us much, will be resigned for below market value IMO.

Mills contract looking very expensive per game right now…..

Not wasting a lot of cash elsewhere really….so I guess we have to wonder whether the Haywards and Florent drove too hard a bargain

 

[Bloods86]

Juzzy won’t save us much, will be resigned for below market value IMO.

Mills contract looking very expensive per game right now…..

Not wasting a lot of cash elsewhere really….so I guess we have to wonder whether the Haywards and Florent drove too hard a bargain

Wouldn't be surprised if other clubs showed an interest in Jmac.

People only remember recent form (off the back of injury). List managers won't be making that mistake.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

you wrote 157 posts describing how good the new points system is.. You wrote we'll have no problems matching bids on our academy players
now your casually saying just 'flip JMac for points'
WTF - I still question which team you follow.. as it is clear the new points system is devastating for the northern academies.
With our entire draft hand, we won't have enough points to match a single top ten pick!

I have no issue with the new system its a mile better. It’s meant to be hard to match top 5 picks, that’s the whole point of it you don’t agree with this but frankly that’s the whole point of it. It became way too easy to match a high selection with junk. The GC farce a couple of years ago was the case in point. Just look at what they paid for not one but FOUR first rounders

 

[Bloods86]

We need cap space and Juzzy can go , as we did with George H.
The only ones i would take is Sam Walsh with a doctors clearance and Jack Ross

Certainly didn't need a contested, clean inside mid over recent years.

So who needs our 2nd best winger, with one of the next 2 best turning 32 this year...

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Would hope we sign both up.

Would be unhappy to lose Jmac. 2nd best winger in the side, especially important to retain as Lloyd is getting on.

Jmac has been poor for a while, but if we look at his 'good' games they aren't highly productive ones wasn't as if he was getting 30 plus in those games. I'm fine to retain him though at worst going forward he's good depth/competition.

 

[bedford]

Certainly didn't need a contested, clean inside mid over recent years.

So who needs our 2nd best winger, with one of the next 2 best turning 32 this year...

Bice can easily go there , plus Giga Corey

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Bice can easily go there , plus Giga Corey

Yep, even Cleary needs to be in that midfield rotation soon. Put it this way it's not just this year, he was poor half of last season too albeit with injury. All I'm saying is how about we not be hasty and resign a guy who has a peak of 20-22 ish possessions on the wing (on a good day).