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[Juice030103]

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Damn.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Damn.

No intel there, just thought it was an apt meme.

 

[Juice030103]

No intel there, just thought it was an apt meme.

Oh ahhaha

 

[Red Bull]

Damn.

 

[katmanblue]

It's just not feasible.
We'd have to throw in a decent draft pick to get someone to take his contract, and we're short on those.
We've got him for another year, let's just hope he stays fit. He can obviously play.

What if we pay 200k of his salary?

 

[bradfisher14]

No intel there, just thought it was an apt meme.

You gotta put a disclaimer on those sorts of posts mate. My heart can't take it.

 

[DangerousD]

He just forwent a trigger, didn't actually change the money he got in his last year.

We don’t know his 2026 payments though do we?

Theoretically if we assume the media reports as true, it’s $900,000 over 6 but it doesn’t state a figure year on year, we could only be on the hook for half that next year, making it a lot easier to move him on if needed

 

[GT619]

No intel there, just thought it was an apt meme.

 

[katmanblue]

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[Stamos]

We don’t know his 2026 payments though do we?

Theoretically if we assume the media reports as true, it’s $900,000 over 6 but it doesn’t state a figure year on year, we could only be on the hook for half that next year, making it a lot easier to move him on if needed

Ok, say he’s on only 500 for the final year.
If we’re forcing him out (and given what he provides for the team, the reason would purely be fitness), we’re still not going to get anything for him.

Who would take him for free in those circumstances, who still needs to pay 500? Even if we paid 200 of it?

 

[SurreyBlue]

i guess Harry isn’t being traded now?

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

Can't take these stats seriously given the opposition we have played the last 3 weeks, especially North and Eagles. Would want a bigger sample size before we can take these stats seriously. Until then....grain of salt

Yep, vs genuine traffic cones in 2 of the 3 weeks. Overall we still lack class on our list imo. Hence why the absence of Newman, Elijah and Harry etc early in the year was so profound. Is it an insurmountable gulf vs other teams? No. But we'd absolutely benefit with a few more hard running ball users like most of the best teams have right now.

The pressure brought by North was basically.at the same level as geelong. And the sheer turnaround extreme to extreme kinda dwarfs that. If they were actually just bad they'd still be ranked shit or 'shit but not quite as shit'.

First we can't kick. Now it's oh we can't kick under pressure. Goalpost shift.

Plenty of good kicks in the team. They showed it vs Geelong.

Every team in the comp thinks they could do with a few more quality hard running ball users.... But the salary cap exists.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

I think this is a lot more about system than it is about talent.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Hewett and McGovern are on track to hitting extension triggers, Tom Morris reported last night…
Silvagni looking at an upgraded contract extension…

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Hewett and McGovern are on track to hitting extension triggers, Tom Morris reported last night…
Silvagni looking at an upgraded contract extension…

Death, taxes and Gov having a crack in a contract year...

 

[AlecDuncan]

I've thoroughly enjoyed the development/opening month of Will White and Matt Carrolls careers.

Get the ball in that kid's hands at every opportunity. His I50s are elite.

 

[JJBagger]

Death, taxes and Gov having a crack in a contract year...

If that’s the case, awesome list management to have a 1 year extension in his current deal. Can’t imagine he will get anything more than 1 year deals from now on

 

[Coops93]

Pressure makes Diamonds

It also bursts pipes.

Pressure in the right spots is important. Moving Doc on when not ready would impact the list greatly, he's a much loved and respected figure in the group and by Voss. Sometimes there's more to an individuals impact on a list than just on-field performance. If a board member came in and pushed him out I could see that causing more issues than any supposed benefits - especially if it's just for a MSD spot, which isn't that valuable at all.

Off-season is a different story and these conversations happen a lot, North even moved on the most capped player in history (except for Craig Bradley who played over 500 professional games, though the VFL won't acknowledge that...) when he clearly had some juice left.

 

[Coops93]

Mind boggling you’d chase a ruckman on so much money when the rest of the list is in a poor state. It’s almost as if a certain list manager wants to feel the satisfaction of finally poaching a big fish against his old club and will sacrifice the world to do it.

Jack Carroll, Liam Stocker and Paddy Dow

Although they did give up the equivalent of around a 4th rounder for Dow...

We shouldn't laugh at them, he did exactly the same thing here with former GWS players. Could argue it's what set us back a few years - instead of investing in new players as opposed to failed GWS players.

 

[Michael Jezz]

It also bursts pipes.

Pressure in the right spots is important. Moving Doc on when not ready would impact the list greatly, he's a much loved and respected figure in the group and by Voss. Sometimes there's more to an individuals impact on a list than just on-field performance. If a board member came in and pushed him out I could see that causing more issues than any supposed benefits - especially if it's just for a MSD spot, which isn't that valuable at all.

Off-season is a different story and these conversations happen a lot, North even moved on the most capped player in history (except for Craig Bradley who played over 500 professional games, though the VFL won't acknowledge that...) when he clearly had some juice left.

Your view is through the rear view mirror....boy we should have burst more pipes over the years....look forward and embrace the opportunity on the horizon

 

[Aphrodite]

i guess Harry & Walsh aren't being traded now?

 

[DangerousD]

Ok, say he’s on only 500 for the final year.
If we’re forcing him out (and given what he provides for the team, the reason would purely be fitness), we’re still not going to get anything for him.

Who would take him for free in those circumstances, who still needs to pay 500? Even if we paid 200 of it?

I agree we would be getting very little for him, sorry i mean nothing for him, but who knows what North or Saints want to do and how much cap they need to spend, North might want a senior player who might manage 15 games or so.

Its most likely he sees out the last year of his deal but like last year, moving on constantly injured players is important and i wonder if we told him that he wont be getting an extension, if he would look around.

 

[DangerousD]

i guess Harry isn’t being traded now?

His value just went up a bit.

 

[DangerousD]

Hewett and McGovern are on track to hitting extension triggers, Tom Morris reported last night…
Silvagni looking at an upgraded contract extension…

First anyone has heard of Gov hitting a trigger, would seem unlikely to me, as his deal was quite long to start with. Hewetts has been raised and previously i thought him staying wasn’t great but he’s been fantastic with more responsibility.

We need to move past Gov though and i hope any trigger talk is BS

 

[Stamos]

First anyone has heard of Gov hitting a trigger, would seem unlikely to me, as his deal was quite long to start with. Hewetts has been raised and previously i thought him staying wasn’t great but he’s been fantastic with more responsibility.

We need to move past Gov though and i hope any trigger talk is BS

He’s on a 2 year deal.