List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[topbillings]

So we now know where the Adelaide Crows story is coming from...

The Adelaide Crows.

 

[StCicatriz]

Hoping he stays but if not, he'll be taken by us with our first pick in either the preseason draft or the national draft, hopefully you get a good deal for him as a result, very much doubt he wants to go to Perth.

this

which is why its going to be very difficult for adelaide and port just to throw up what ever they think is appropriate

 

[thekizzler]

Future second. What a balls up that was

I'll post it.

This cements your status as worst on ground this weekend

What an absolute load of bullsh*t.

Xerri had played 12 games when we tried to trade him in. Averaging 7 disposals, 7 hitouts, 1 clearance a game in the season we tried to get him.

He is now averaging 17 disposals, 35 hitouts, 8 clearances a game.

It was excellent talent identification by the recruiting team but offering a first round pick for him at the time would have been incompetent.

Also, I wonder who we selected with our first round pick in the 2021 draft and our future first in the 2022 draft.

Boy oh boy.

 

[botts]

Talking about SOS

Yeah but was he contracted or uncontracted ?

 

[StCicatriz]

You think we are getting the biggest trade bounty of all time?

Interesting.

Hope you are right.

its the first draft/trade period you can trade 3 first rounders.... so its been inflated again

its the same story as when you could only trade 1 and then suddenly you could trade to... everything went up in terms of cost

 

[stavro#4]

- Adelaide is confident it can secure brilliant St Kilda star Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera by offering a flag window rather than the biggest offer, with the Crows’ offer understood to be below deals offered by the Saints and Port Adelaide.

- He has not told his teammates he is leaving and St Kilda is still holding out hope that he might stay given they have continued to negotiate with his manager Ben Williams in recent weeks.

- Both clubs are confident they could get a deal done using current and future draft picks but Adelaide’s first-round pick will end up in the mid-20s and the Power do not have a 2025 first-rounder.

 

[Joffaboy]

Talking about SOS

Didn't Ross say you don't trade draft your contracted players?

 

[StCicatriz]

chris judd, who was 24 years old at the time (2 years older than Nas), was traded for pick 3, pick 20 and 20 year old josh kennedy who was a #4 draft pick 2 years prior. I'd expect something similar or hang up the phone. also these drafts weren't compromised so it stayed at picks 3 and 20.

correct and thats before inflation kicked in where you could future trade

 

[stavro#4]

its the first draft/trade period you can trade 3 first rounders.... so its been inflated again

its the same story as when you could only trade 1 and then suddenly you could trade to... everything went up in terms of cost

The equivalent to that deal would be something like.

• Draper / Pick 3
• Curtin / Kennedy
• FRP / Pick 20

Can’t see it.

 

[stavro#4]

Didn't Ross say you don't trade draft your contracted players?

He said you don’t trade them

 

[phantom13]

Adelaide is confident, port is confident, we’re confident.

Someone gonna look pretty dumb soon enough.

 

[mighty_sainters]

Dogs have Libba, West, Darcy and Croft playing today.

We really need a hint of luck to assist our list turnover.

 

[owen78]

Can tell you it’s absolutely not the view of the playing group, and if Windy and Mitch know they’re keeping it very close to their chest.

Unfortunately you are wrong Maximus..
Again, as i have stated numerous times, do not take the news personally.
But as i stated 3 weeks ago now, it is a fact.
Do not doubt owen...

 

[Geezington]

SOS will demand the world for him, I’m not to worried either way we’ll end up getting something really good for him or he resigns

 

[stavro#4]

 

[stavro#4]

So it was port or the saints.
Now it’s crows or the saints.

For a bloke who is leaving we are sure doing well to still be in the fight.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Geez,

If he leaves us to be in a flag window, I will be supremely disappointed.

 

[botts]

I'll post it.

This cements your status as worst on ground this weekend

What an absolute load of bullsh*t.

Xerri had played 12 games when we tried to trade him in. Averaging 7 disposals, 7 hitouts, 1 clearance a game in the season we tried to get him.

He is now averaging 17 disposals, 35 hitouts, 8 clearances a game.

It was excellent talent identification by the recruiting team but offering a first round pick for him at the time would have been incompetent.

Also, I wonder who we selected with our first round pick in the 2021 draft and our future first in the 2022 draft.

Boy oh boy.

So why are you quoting future firsts? It was a future second. We pick James van es. Didn’t play a games.

 

[jwikked]

leaving to a team because they’re close to winning a flag is as pea hearted as it gets.

 

[botts]

Geez,

If he leaves us to be in a flag window, I will be supremely disappointed.

Better for us of the two destinations. No threat of the pre season draft. They will have to pay up

 

[Geezington]

So it was port or the saints.
Now it’s crows or the saints.

For a bloke who is leaving we are sure doing well to still be in the fight.

Like I said yesterday port Adelaide have some pretty good top end talent but once it gets into their bottom 14 players they’re all basically poor man’s Ryan Byrnes and nas can see that they’re going no where

 

[Sully111]

Talking about SOS

Was Gibbs contracted?

 

[StCicatriz]

The equivalent to that deal would be something like.

• Draper / Pick 3
• Curtin / Kennedy
• FRP / Pick 20

Can’t see it.

then we need to be very real about letting him go through to WCE

this is bigger than just NAS now. we are getting picked off by a bunch of clubs who think they can just walk players to their club.

the battle outcome was ridiculous. now its happening with NAS and Windy. Plus talk of Marshall/Steele.

a players biggest fear is they wont get the trade to the club they desire and it falls through. we need to stop playing nice here. we have no duty to NAS if he chooses to leave to trade him to the club he desires.

i think we'd be better off taking nothing and sending the message not only to the players but also AFL HQ, than taking a pittance and rolling over again.

how good is it gonna look for the AFL where a club that is rebuilding, thats been told to build through the draft, just lost its best young talent to a club in the top 4.

 

[Geezington]

Geez,

If he leaves us to be in a flag window, I will be supremely disappointed.

Adelaide is the most overhyped team in the comp, apart from Dawson their midfield is utter ballsack, great forward line good defence shit midfield they’ll be found out in finals dogs, Brisbane, Gold Coast, gws will all dominate them in the midfield in finals

 

[botts]

then we need to be very real about letting him go through to WCE

this is bigger than just NAS now. we are getting picked off by a bunch of clubs who think they can just walk players to their club.

the battle outcome was ridiculous. now its happening with NAS and Windy. Plus talk of Marshall/Steele.

a players biggest fear is they wont get the trade to the club they desire and it falls through. we need to stop playing nice here. we have no duty to NAS if he chooses to leave to trade him to the club he desires.

i think we'd be better off taking nothing and sending the message not only to the players but also AFL HQ, than taking a pittance and rolling over again.

how good is it gonna look for the AFL where a club that is rebuilding, thats been told to build through the draft, just lost its best young talent to a club in the top 4.

I have no doubt sos will be almost impossible to deal with. He will make them pay up