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List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

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There was talk that Acres wanted to come back. Heard it from 2 different people now.
So after giving up Acres to get Hill there’s still a chance they could run out together for the Saints? 🤪
 
Bloke is a genius.

What an observation.
This goes back to what FraserGehrigsHair posted about earlier though.

Tom Morris post is brain dead but it is 'important' in the larger entertainment news cycle, because it now provides a basis for other 'journalists' to makes insinuations about St Kilda or draw extenous links between the players mentioned and other AFL clubs.

Like Ross Lyon says there is no rigour nowadays. Journos see a social media post, accept it as gospel, and just fabricate a new narrative to support their own storyline.
 

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Great list managers don’t get everything right. They just get enough right. I’m discussing admin because in my opinion we are taking a club holistic approach to improving our culture and performance.

I respect your take on the list but I have no qualms with the approach so far personally, in fact I am ecstatic with the direction we’re heading in. We’re on the right track, and I’m not sure what else we could possibly do.

  • We’ve drafted extremely well (given our picks - it’s never a sure thing)
  • We have advocated for systemic change due to inequities in the system
  • We’ve retained and lured in talent - any FA missed is not for lack of trying
  • We’re brought in proven development coaches and people like Dalrymple.
  • We’re actively working on highlight culture/family aspects of the club & are a leading club in First Nations representation.
  • Membership is only increasing, debt is stabilised if not decreasing. RSEA is a fantastic facility.
I’m on board with giving our senior players an opportunity at a tilt by rounding out our list because we have enough youth in now where rising up the ladder will only do us good. Giving the senior players a window to compete whilst also developing the younger players in a finals-level environment if all goes to plan. If it turn, it’s going to turn quick.

2 years, end of 2027 we re-assess. This is the reward for eating our vegetables for several years now and drafting youth so we have an actual cohort of promising players ready to develop rather than constantly topping up.

Players like TDK & Ryan can now be additions to round out the side rather than messiahs brought it to change everything.

Again, I have respect for the cynics, but gee why not get excited?

I am excited about TDK and even Fincher and our 1st round pick. I dont rate Aleer at all and I think Ryan is the wrong way to go. I am just very sceptical about the hysteria its not like we are adding Gehrig, Hamill type recruiting.
 

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I am excited about TDK and even Fincher and our 1st round pick. I dont rate Aleer at all and I think Ryan is the wrong way to go. I am just very sceptical about the hysteria its not like we are adding Gehrig, Hamill type recruiting.
Whether or not the Ryan trade (if goes ahead) is well liked will mostly depend on cost I imagine.

Aleer similarly. Though obviously less proven. Exciting to consider his potential if he came on though.

Don’t think there’s any hysteria, the NAS stuff, now that’s hysteria.
 

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Positioning to get a better trade deal. Good business from WCE.

And thats exactly why we should be no where near it. Even if Liam does ask for a trade WCE will either shut him down or they will put a ridiculous bounty on his head.
 
Its not about the money it about re-engaging the extra 10-12k members.
Correct.

Twomey’s article mentioned many were either new or lapsed members.

That is really exciting.

We are seeing St Kilda’s large latent supporter base starting to engage again.

It’s the tip of iceberg, especially in Bayside Melbourne. There are Saints supporters everywhere.
 
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