List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[ESDR]

Soldo was a bit different, he failed a medical. That's a clear red flag that no one would dispute as grounds to walk away.

True. But we don't know the real reason behind this change of direction.

I would say that I expect the extra money given to Wilkie had something to do with it.

 

[projectv]

I just don't really buy this idea that we didn't want to pay an F2 so we pulled out. Why. It explore walking him to the PSD? Fact is once we signed Silvagni he didn't make a lot of sense.

We probably just decided we didn't want him anymore. The asking price is just the excuse we've given. If push came to shove, we could have easily scrounged up a pick in the 30-35 range to give to GWS in either the Flanders, Ryan or Marshall deals.

 

[MrFoster]

Somebody should remind Josh Jenkins that we did the exact same thing with big Ivan Soldo last year. Think TDK, JSOS, Flyin' Ryan and Ned, and their respective managers, must have missed that.

St Kilda backs out of negotiations for wantaway ruck: AFL trade news.

The Port Adelaide ruckman has been left in limbo after requesting a trade to Victoria.

www.zerohanger.com

Think Soldo failed a medical with us. But regardless, things change all the time in the trade period, just think of those almost trades that never happened. Damo is really a drama queen, but then after all, isn't this the job of a journal? dramatize everything so they have a job.

 

[saintmike65]

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These journalists pluck figures out of their arse!!

 

[bakes10]

We probably just decided we didn't want him anymore. The asking price is just the excuse we've given. If push came to shove, we could have easily scrounged up a pick in the 30-35 range to give to GWS in either the Flanders, Ryan or Marshall deals.

I think you’re right. Maybe explains why we didn’t haggle with GC to get something else back from the Flanders trade

 

[MrFoster]

True. But we don't know the real reason behind this change of direction.

I would say that I expect the extra money given to Wilkie had something to do with it.

True, or we could have someone else in mind who's cheaper and more of a sure thing --> SDK. Here's hoping.

 

[Captain Paddy]

We probably just decided we didn't want him anymore. The asking price is just the excuse we've given. If push came to shove, we could have easily scrounged up a pick in the 30-35 range to give to GWS in either the Flanders, Ryan or Marshall deals.

We obviously put an offer to GWS for him but they just wanted more, so we walked away.

This whole management team is about not fluffing around and not getting fluffed around.

Already got 3 trades done this period, so it’s not like we aren’t willing to deal.

We just don’t wanna get bent over

 

[g_TRAIN]

With the Aleer thing, I don’t like it, but at the same time, I’d like it even less if we took him just because we said we would, even though we know he’s not needed now.

 

[mighty_sainters]

I’m going to embrace the hate for the club right now, I want every opposition poster who’s lurking here to see that we don’t care about their feelings.

The club has a set of balls right now and I love it.

 

[The_Steadier]

End of 2nd round pick for a start of 3rd round pick and Liam Ryan. Lol yeah I'll take that. This club is clearly ceasing on the momentum and perception of the club amongst the established AFL players. The interviews with JSOS and TDK was very complimentary of the club and our coaches, Flanders keen to get played in the right position, Liam Ryan moving to the other side of the country.

Keen for us to move on to Charlie Curnow now.

Out:
Marshall and our F1 out (plus more steakknives?)

In:
curnow

how?
no idea

But we'd have the cap space to match or beat any other offers he gets with aleers $$$ back.

We need a gun marking fwd more than anything else (inc humphrey and sdk) if roma goes.

 

[projectv]

If you think Damo and Jenkins are melting now, imagine them when we swap Marshall for SDK.

 

[austinnn]

No Welcome Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

thread?

 

[sauce_head]

Geelong have seemingly offered a 1st, and we are still talking that hes staying, so I very much doubt that will get done, and correctly so. If were gonna be left with just 2 rucks on our list (Keeler is not a ruckman) , I want a Godfather offer thanks

You want Longmire’s head in bed next to you when you wake up?!

 

[MordySaint]

With the Aleer thing, I don’t like it, but at the same time, I’d like it even less if we took him just because we said we would, even though we know he’s not needed now.

I honestly thought at times we would walk away from TDK, but it ended up happening.

Until the deal is done and you sign, nothing is certain.

Why is this such a big deal? Must be a slow media day.

 

[Macgruber]

Soldo was a bit different, he failed a medical. That's a clear red flag that no one would dispute as grounds to walk away.

He was terrible in the SANFL this year.

If Port had a reserves team Soldo would of been dropped.

Avoid!!!

 

[St Neil]

I think you’re right. Maybe explains why we didn’t haggle with GC to get something else back from the Flanders trade

Not a bad theory.

 

[projectv]

I honestly thought at times we would walk away from TDK, but it ended up happening.

Until the deal is done and you sign, nothing is certain.

Why is this such a big deal? Must be a slow media day.

It's no surprise they're talking about us. We're the only club that's done anything.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Didn't Geelong walk Jack Martin

19

Jack Martin

Age

30

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

to the PSD as a delisted free agent after not wanting to pay for him? Was there drama then?

 

[Geezington]

aleer will still happen we will end up finding a pick lmao

 

[malevu]

I wouldn't care if we threw some of the Aleer money at Marshall just to get him to change his mind about leaving. Even if the only purpose was to stick one up the Cats

 

[JG22]

Pretty certain we'll get Aleer, we're just trying to get him for little

 

[nikkig98]

No Welcome Liam Ryan thread?

yeah you're right need to be made, think theres just been so much happen everyone got caught up in it ahah

 

[Banger9798]

I’ve got a feeling we are just gonna go bag bang with GC out of nowhere and bring in Humphrey B Bear.

Bring in the silent hirsute mother****er!

 

[AFaiL]

Didn't Geelong walk Jack Martin to the PSD as a delisted free agent after not wanting to pay for him? Was there drama then?

Because it doesn't get clicks if you give all then info

 

[St Neil]

We obviously put an offer to GWS for him but they just wanted more, so we walked away.

This whole management team is about not fluffing around and not getting fluffed around.

Already got 3 trades done this period, so it’s not like we aren’t willing to deal.

We just don’t wanna get bent over

But we still have a week of the trade period to go.

Doesn’t sound as if we tried very hard.

I love the club and will always defend it, but the lad publicly nominated us ages ago. That has to mean something.

We need to ascertain all of the facts, and pre-judging is always fraught, but on the surface it doesn’t look great.