List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[Verdun66]

Genuine make something out of nothing type. He’ll win his own ball and score against the flow. He’s a lot like Hall where he turns half chances into goals.

Correct me if I’m wrong. But I seem to remember Liam Ryan being quite a pest when the Wet Toast beat us this year. Very dangerous. Looking forward to seeing him in action for us.

 

[Armoooo]

Also surely this Soldo stuff is nonsense. If he failed a medical last year, I doubt his degenerative knee has gotten much better.

 

[akaifu]

"less likely" so not categoric...

 

[The_Steadier]

Josh Jenkins reckons he spoken to someone ITK that Aleer ends up at StK still

 

[Lennylegs]

I like how we're acting the same way I do when on a bender.

At the start: "Shit yeah, I've got plenty of cash...

Then when things get a little too weird: "Nah fk this I'm out..."

 

[dudeintheswamp]

I feel like you're trying to tell us something. I just don't know what it is.

When they insist on knowing my bliss
I tell them this
When they wanna know what the reason is
I only smile when I lie, then I tell them why

Because your kiss, your kiss is on my list

 

[Armoooo]

I like how we're acting the same way I do when on a bender.

At the start: "Shit yeah, I've got plenty of cash...

Then when things get a little too weird: "Nah fk this I'm out..."

Sos waking up on Thursday morning with the mother of all hangovers... "**** me dead, I blew $500k on Soldo again"

 

[Diehard Saint]

There was absolutely an expectation wed discuss (in good faith) a deal with Geelong

Has anyone suggested Geelong is done? Walked away? Cause thats the issue we have, not that our offer wasnt accepted.

People keep doing this as the comparison and its not.

To be fair, offering the Blues three first rounders was as good as walking away.

How did they think they were then going to satisfy us?

 

[CHBench]

Took a few things from that Mackie interview:

• Marshall is their priority, following up with SOS first re: status of the pick 19 offer before putting it up for Curnow
• That both offers for Curnow and Marshall are not their best and final
• They still have hope of bringing in both, in order to do so then player/s would need to go

 

[Armoooo]

To be fair, offering the Blues three first rounders was as good as walking away.

How did they think they were then going to satisfy us?

SDK?

 

[Geezington]

We’ll probably end up with overs for butler if he ends up going up there, or Ainsworth very cheap if he doesn’t go to Carlton

stavro#4 that’s what I got told the other day, they’re desperate for small forwards so unless something better pops up I think it’ll likely happen

 

[AFaiL]

So, the softest interview on Mackie ever. No mention of SDK

Cats offer pick 19, we sit for a few days, they walk it away and offer to carlton (no diff to us to eagles for ryan)

How is it any different?

 

[mighty_sainters]

 

[Jacks1411]

So, the softest interview on Mackie ever. No mention of SDK

Cats offer pick 19, we sit for a few days, they walk it away and offer to carlton (no diff to us to eagles for ryan)

How is it any different?

Absolutely no one outside of these forums is talking about SDK

 

[sainter7]

Jenkins and Barrett are d**k riding geelong so much right now. Obsessed with them. Marshall is contracted. We dont have to trade him.

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Absolutely no one outside of these forums is talking about SDK

That's okay I am still frothing from the fever pitch surrounding De Goey

 

[stavro#4]

Mackie was pretty clear that Marshall was still on the table.

Just “what a deal would look like”.

As I said before. Balls in their court.

 

[The_Steadier]

Are they still whining about Aleer?

No, they've moved onto dining now.

Mackie saying he's not sure what we are wanting...

We want them to p155 off.

Then we want TDK and roma to destroy rhys stanley next september so violently that it will be the first football game ever to be given an R 18+ rating.

 

[stavro#4]

stavro#4 that’s what I got told the other day, they’re desperate for small forwards so unless something better pops up I think it’ll likely happen

Thanks G.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Mackie was pretty clear that Marshall was still on the table.

Just “what a deal would look like”.

As I said before. Balls in their court.

Balls dunked on their forehead is what I'd prefer. SDK and a good teabagging is the only outcome I'd accept.

 

[MrFoster]

Am I the only one who thinks Carlton got a great deal for Ainsworth? I'm completely fine with what we paid for Flanders, but it seems Blues got themselves a bargain

Carlton gives Cory Durdin (23 yo small forward that kicked 14 goal this year), pick 26
Carlton gets Ainsworth (28 yo old small forward who kicked 21 goals this year), pick 67 which is worthless

So basically Carlton swapped Cory Durdin and pick 26 for a slightly improved but older small forward. Sounds to me they overpaid. If they got Ben Long (44 goals in 2025) from the deal, then it would have been a good deal.

We got Flanders a game changing goal kicking inside mid in the mould of Lachie Neale (would average 30 possessions a game next season) for pick 7, which is essentially a pick 12 after FA compensation and NGA/father son bids.

 

[nikkig98]

I would happily give pick 19 to whichever club can get Josh Jenkins off the airwaves

 

[projectv]

We might end up with 29 from the gc

If they give us pick 29 for Butler they should be subject to a Royal Commission.

 

[Armoooo]

Carlton gives Cory Durdin (23 yo small forward that kicked 14 goal this year), pick 26
Carlton gets Ainsworth (28 yo old small forward who kicked 21 goals this year), pick 67 which is worthless

So basically Carlton swapped Cory Durdin and pick 26 for a slightly improved but older small forward. Sounds to me they overpaid. If they got Ben Long (44 goals in 2025) from the deal, then it would have been a good deal.

Carlton should not be bringing in any players over 22.

They've got a long rebuild ahead of them and they're choosing a terrible time to bottom out.

 

[stavro#4]

So F1 gets Marshall.

Soldo (still what the ****..) would have to be something late and worthless.

If Alan and G are right and butler goes. 29 gets eaten by Fincher because a club will want to get us back.

Has to be something else. That’s uninspiring.