List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion

[Tom14]

His main problem is that he can’t play a full 4 quarters at senior level. Until he does that he will struggle to hold down a regular spot.

Does a lot of nice things that are eye catching currently, and his long kicking is a genuine weapon. But he's very much just a moments player, and in that wing role you have to be able to run out a full game doing repeat 400ms so you are covering defensively.

 

[M Malice]

His main problem is that he can’t play a full 4 quarters at senior level. Until he does that he will struggle to hold down a regular spot.

Does a lot of nice things that are eye catching currently, and his long kicking is a genuine weapon. But he's very much just a moments player, and in that wing role you have to be able to run out a full game doing repeat 400ms so you are covering defensively.

Oh agree 100% that he needs to up his endurance as I posted.

Hopefully Bruce isn't similar to Rhys Matheison i.e. no matter how hard Rhys worked his genetics just wouldn't allow him to become an endurance athlete.

 

[KissKiss]

Does a lot of nice things that are eye catching currently, and his long kicking is a genuine weapon. But he's very much just a moments player, and in that wing role you have to be able to run out a full game doing repeat 400ms so you are covering defensively.

I do wonder if he'd be a more natural on-baller or maybe hff. The running needed there is slightly slower but skill sets match his. But they are even harder spots to crack in our team than the wing.

 

[Dalions]

Oh agree 100% that he needs to up his endurance as I posted.

Hopefully Bruce isn't similar to Rhys Matheison i.e. no matter how hard Rhys worked his genetics just wouldn't allow him to become an endurance athlete.

It’s interesting, I was at a training session, maybe in the preseason for last year (2024 season) and there was quite a lot of running in the session and Bruce was probably in the top 6-10 runners that day.
Might be more that he just can’t translate that into game day running along with the grappling and tackling etc. associated with games.

 

[Dalions]

I do wonder if he'd be a more natural on-baller or maybe hff. The running needed there is slightly slower but skill sets match his. But they are even harder spots to crack in our team than the wing.

I see him more as a hff with stints in the middle rather than a winger.
In a similar mold to Rayner.
Maybe just not as explosive.

 

[Perrip]

Essendon make improved offer to Sam Draper as free agent holds concerns over club’s fitness program

Brisbane and Adelaide have both tabled strong, long-term offers for Draper, with Brisbane worried about Oscar McInerney

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[twhowler]

Essendon make improved offer to Sam Draper as free agent holds concerns over club’s fitness program

listed as 203cm. i would not have had him pegged as that tall - he is fairly quick and mobile

 

[Tom14]

Essendon make improved offer to Sam Draper as free agent holds concerns over club’s fitness program

The bombers just can't lose Draper! They need to pay him whatever he wants!!!

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

The bombers just can't lose Draper! They need to pay him whatever he wants!!!

I've come around to the idea, I reckon he'd be all right

 

[Nunez]

Wish.com Joe come home baby!

 

[Nathan Barley]

Wish.com Joe come home baby!

After Fages said he’s 99.99% certain he won’t play next year

 

[Crusha]

His main problem is that he can’t play a full 4 quarters at senior level. Until he does that he will struggle to hold down a regular spot.

And you get that from ...where?
You obviously don't edit videos ... where it's easy to see the amount of up and back running he does on the wings in the VFL side.

I 'll grant you it's pretty hard to play a full 4 quarters at senior level ..... especially when your on the pine for 3 and a half.

 

[blueiris]

It’s crazy to think of where we are at with our midfield brigade at the moment. Fletcher has shown an ability to play wing and HBF. McCluggage as well can play in and out. Dunkley has also shown at the Dogs that he can spend time forward. Berry as a junior was an AA HBF as well. Injuries occur and there might even be the possibility of resting the likes of Neale throughout a season as well. Definitely set up in that area for a number of years. Premiership type teams do have extremely strong midfields and having internal pressure only drives standards higher as well.

Neale is a very capable forward

 

[Tom14]

Neale is a very capable forward

 

[p4p1]

Think Zorks would be horrible in any coaching capacity. His intentions would be always good but his way of doing it would be always not so good.

Aren’t you the guy that gets up in arms when anyone questions our coaches or players? Strange that you would say one of our players would be horrible at anything given what you have got in a tizzy about before.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

What is Hipwoods next contract offer going to be ? Significant pay cut I would hope which should be used for an upgrade on Logan's

 

[twhowler]

What is Hipwoods next contract offer going to be ? Significant pay cut I would hope which should be used for an upgrade on Logan's

long term contract on not a heap of coin

 

[Perrip]

What is Hipwoods next contract offer going to be ? Significant pay cut I would hope which should be used for an upgrade on Logan's

He's signed until 2029. He'll be 32 by the time he comes out of contract.
You don't have Joe or Logan playing well without Hippy

 

[briztoon]

Aren’t you the guy that gets up in arms when anyone questions our coaches or players? Strange that you would say one of our players would be horrible at anything given what you have got in a tizzy about before.

Was fairly critical of Charlie a month or so ago.

But fair point.

 

[mpal6]

Neale is a very capable forward

Not so sure. He's alright as a first possession mid in a forward stoppage.

Pure small forward? I have my doubts.

As a small or medium forward there needs to be lot of thankless running, tackle, putting pressure on rebounding defenders and then make your moment count in those 5 or 10 possessions you get in the forward line. Our forward line works because of different traits it carries - Rayner, Lohmann, Bailey are X factors. Charlie is our pure small. Ah Chee is a natural forward as we have seen. Dunkley has moved there and making a difference with his contested marking, he's a natural in terms of tackling and bringing pressure. I don't see Neale having a default trait as a pure small. He can do what Rayner does - forward / mid. But his one wood is still first possession mid.

It's not a knock on dual brownlow medallist btw. I don't see him doing the thankless chase / tackle / harass in a dedicated way like a Lohmann would do.

 

[Crusha]

I can't understand the one year extention to Bruce Reville ....... it gives the impression of " here's a year, if you make the side great, if you don't ... Ce la Vie".

Right now, I see him as a greater short to medium term prospect than any of Tunstill, Torrent, L Ashcroft, Annable, and we know the general think on Robertson.
Some of these guys may become mainstays long term, but for the now and into the medium term I think Bruce is where we should be investing, and a one year extention doesn't say that to me.

I would love to see his speed from the contest become a used weapon in the AFL side, especially targeting late in quarters, mixed with some time on the wing.

I know that opens up dialogue around "yeah, but who is he going to replace". That's both a difficult question to answer, and a good one to have. The fact is we will never know if we don't experiment, and we won't improve/evolve if we continue to do the same thing over and over.

Anyway, that's my two bobs worth.


Bruce Reville #38

 

[Nathan Barley]

It's the "Ryan Lester

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[Perrip]

I can't understand the one year extention to Bruce Reville ....... it gives the impression of " here's a year, if you make the side great, if you don't ... Ce la Vie".

He's a Cat B Rookie still. He can only be that until the end of next year since he's played more than 10 AFL games

Bruce is in an odd spot where any longer extension would require him to be moved on to the Cat A rookie list or to the Primary List since he's played more than 10 AFL games.
10.10.(d) of the AFL rules:

A Club may retain a Category B Rookie Player on its Rookie List for a fourth season if that Player has played less than ten (10) Senior Matches as at the conclusion of their third season and provided it nominates such Player or Players using Form 32 prior to advising the AFL of its Primary List under Rule 6.1(a),that Player is promoted to the Category A Rookie List and such Player consents to being nominated on the Rookie List for a fourth season. For the avoidance of doubt, a Club must not retain a Player on its Rookie List as a Category B Rookie Player for a fourth or fifth season as a Category B Rookie Player.

 

[Tom14]

What happened to loyalty in football Sam? Bombers clearly want to keep you - stay loyal!

 

[Elixuh]

What happened to loyalty in football Sam? Bombers clearly want to keep you - stay loyal!