List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion

[phantom13]

Its wild to me that the Hawks missed Hall at Box Hill and Smitch seems to have missed him at Ranges even further back.

I know guys get overlooked all the time but hes such a hawks/smitch sort of player i cant believe they missed it

 

[StCicatriz]

We need a Butler pressure forward replacement. It's not Liam Ryan. If he is a Max Hall type, we already have Hall and Liam Henry.

Liam Ryan is nothing like Max hall IMO just like Lance collard is nothing like hall

Liam Ryan is a high marking small forward.

Max Hall is more a high half forward. More of a link player who can go through the midfield and hurt you on the rebound.

We'd be looking at Liam Ryan to try and improve our marking ability inside 50 and release players like Higgins Owens Hall from attracting more attention.

 

[StCicatriz]

There's zero chance of ryan leaving WA

His management has recently relocated to Melbourne and have been trying to diversity their roster so its not just Perth based.

Same people said Liam Henry would never leave WA

Remind me again who his management is?

I don't think wce will release him and will offer him more money but the idea he will never leave isn't true IMO

 

[Jade Buddha]

I think he's the type that wants instant success. Not the organisation.

I think he’s the type that wants posters of himself around the club. A large amount of ego inside a small brain cavity.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

One of the journalists in their trade wraps mentioned that the Suns Coach is NOT a big wrap for Ben King. Would we be interested in getting him as a FA next year. He could be a defender against those forwards over 200cms or have a very tall forward line.

I’d be surprised if that’s true

3rd in the Coleman. Dimma would love him

 

[Sully111]

Ryan, yuck

Walsh, Ditto... he's not needed.

 

[StCicatriz]

I still think we should look at erasmus

 

[busso_mick]

Its wild to me that the Hawks missed Hall at Box Hill and Smitch seems to have missed him at Ranges even further back.

I know guys get overlooked all the time but hes such a hawks/smitch sort of player i cant believe they missed it

I got the impression that the Hawks were always going to draft him in the mid-year top up, but we beat them to it.

 

[_Maximus_12]

He’s turning 24 not 21 and has played 20 games.

Guys who only play when you have a long injury list don’t usually come with his price tag. It’s the usual story everyone in front of him is team of the century material and he’s going to break out and be a superstar.

You know what you usually find in other people’s trash ?, yep trash. If we were talking a third rounder and 3 x $500k I wouldn’t bat an eyelid, knock yourselves out give him an opportunity. You’d be surprised who we might actually be able to get for a second rounder and near enough to $900k.

Just the money alone has to be bloody insulting to quite a few currently on our list and playing every week. Do you think we’re offering that sort of money to windy and hall ?.

Reported $3mil over 4 years =
$750k per annum

Drafted at 21 years old and stuck behind one of the best defenders of the last 15 years in Sam Taylor, as well as Himmelburg and Buckley.

No one has traded a second rounder for him, but given the compromised nature of the draft nowadays that’s likely to be a pick from 40 onwards.

He’s not some dime a dozen midfielder who’s been in the system for four years.

Similar to Aleer - Max Hall & Windhager would likely be getting offered overs to leave, that’s the nature of the game. You might not like it, but you pay a premium to pull players away from their club.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Because he's just not that good. If that's the guy youre building a midfield around youre in for some serious strife

I never said anything about him coming to us , i just asked why you think he is still up for trade ?

 

[bergholt]

I reckon we should bring home all the best Indigenous players from around the country, make it even harder for Nas to leave

 

[Leap of Faith]

Said this month's back

Theyre not coming with a cup in hand... they've pulled up wheel barrow and are going to ask for it to be filled.

If the AFL pony up assistance for WCE I will puke. The first period of sustained struggle where they actually have to fight their way out of it and they've got their cap in hand. F*** off. Jaysus Christ the entitlement of that mob. One of the richest clubs in the comp. Members coming out their arse, their brand new home town stadium with a 99% pro them crowd half the season. Statistically proven benefit of umpiring significantly favouring them at home. F*** em. Let them learn what it's like to be shyte for an extended period and have to fight their way out of it. And if you want to give up two first rounders and two second rounders for Tim F******* Kelly then you've made your own bed.

 

[StCicatriz]

I never said anything about him coming to us , i just asked why you think he is still up for trade ?

Thats my answer on why I think they could still trade him.

Port feign this interest in players they ultimately want to trade. Did it with Howard. Theyre the masters of pretending every player they have is the next captain and untouchable.

 

[botts]

I reckon we should bring home all the best Indigenous players from around the country, make it even harder for Nas to leave

Need to sign Tex as a rookie

 

[Yawkey way]

He has been stuck behind Sam Taylor Harry Himmelberg and Jack Buckley.

It’s hardly an indication he isn’t good. He has played 8 consecutive games in their absences + they want to retain him.

Let them because 1 thing in sport is clear if you’re good enough you play.

Bloody SOS this is modus operandi, he screwed up at Carlton filling the place with the fish that John West rejects.

Most of the players who are picked up on the fringes go on to be decent at best. Maybe we’re encouraged by having actually picked up Steele in similar circumstances but imo he’s an exception. We actually have an outstanding record with rookie list and rejects but again it’s not the norm. Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair, Wood, Hall is actually incredible and thank goodness where would we be without them. The problem is now we’ve forgotten all the duds we wasted picks and money on.

You want to chase Walsh, great knock your socks off. Because he was an outstanding junior went pick one, has lived up to his pick and if fit would be the best mid we’ve had in years. That’s how you jump up the ladder not dumpster diving.

Anyway sounds like Aleer will be a st Kilda and I’ll be cheering him on just don’t expect too much.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Ryan's age and injury history are the only worries.

He's a gun otherwise despite the stats.

His ball use and marking is elite

 

[StCicatriz]

If the AFL pony up assistance for WCE I will puke. The first period of sustained struggle where they actually have to fight their way out of it and they've got their cap in hand. F*** off. Jaysus Christ the entitlement of that mob. One of the richest clubs in the comp. Members coming out their arse, their brand new home town stadium with a 99% pro them crowd half the season. Statistically proven benefit of umpiring significantly favouring them at home. F*** em. Let them learn what it's like to be shyte for an extended period and have to fight their way out of it. And if you want to give up two first rounders and two second rounders for Tim F******* Kelly then you've made your own bed.

100% agree

This the club that posted a record profit in 2018 and 2019. Had 50m cash wasting away in the bank.

Then covid hits and when everyone was losing their jobs, they sent an email to supporters asking for donations to keep the club alive.

They are absolute scum when it comes to entitlement.

 

[PandaG]

I reckon we should bring home all the best Indigenous players from around the country, make it even harder for Nas to leave

I cannot understand why we are not lobbying to be part of the Dreamtime game next year? Why do Richmond and Essendon have a monopoly on this? We should definitely be considered for this game next year based purely on the proactive work we do and the nurturing of Indigenous talent.

 

[jwikked]

I reckon we should bring home all the best Indigenous players from around the country, make it even harder for Nas to leave

Maybe he doesn't like some of them lol

 

[phantom13]

Because i know my opinion is the only one that truly matters to SOS and co.

Walsh - Youd be mad not to look at him, when fit and firing he was a ****ing star. Every ****ing thing on the planet thats navy blue is apparently in a fire sale at the moment so i cant see any truth to the rumors of him wanting out but if so, sure take a squiz. We have all been crying out for Midfielders for a decade but now we dont want this one?

Ryan - I dont love it personally, i weirdly like the look of our forward line moving in 26 if fit but i also have confidence in the current admin from a list management POV as well. If they think it make sense ill back them even if i dont personally see it.

Aleer - Hits the sweet spot of need and age. Salary isnt offensive ($750k will be close to the new average, maybe a bit over) when the cap increases anyway.

TDK - Im still pretty cold on him as a player but i see what he represents, we have to get it done at this point and i hope hes worth the cash.

 

[Leap of Faith]

Ryan, yuck

Walsh, Ditto... he's not needed.

Agree. The only reason Carlscum would be getting rid of Walsh is coz he's physically cooked. He's younger but Dan Hannebery says hi. And Ryan.....meh.....why?

 

[StCicatriz]

The aim we have as a club is to find a fwd who can kick one to two goals a game plus set up more and a defender who can save two or more.

We can't stay stagnant and need to be aiming to play finals asap otherwise we lose more players.

If its not liam or aleer. Who will it be?

 

[Leap of Faith]

100% agree

This the club that posted a record profit in 2018 and 2019. Had 50m cash wasting away in the bank.

Then covid hits and when everyone was losing their jobs, they sent an email to supporters asking for donations to keep the club alive.

They are absolute scum when it comes to entitlement.

It goes with the chip on the shoulder culture of the WA clubs (especially WCE) and their media and fans. I lived in Perth for 11 years including the time when WCE were the only team in town and their fans and media were and still are totally unsufferable. Whatever tripe gets published in "The West Australian', they drink it up and it becomes their reality. The tyranny of distance makes them uber parochial. You can bet that their media are pushing their 'case' for assistance. In reality they should just suck it up, recognise how f****** lucky they are and get on with digging themselves out of their self created pit. And I hope they fail miserably. I heard McQualter say, "we're sick of losing". Good. Long may they suffer. Same boat as Carlton as far as I'm concerned. Suffer in your jocks.

 

[stavro#4]

Let them because 1 thing in sport is clear if you’re good enough you play.

Bloody SOS this is modus operandi, he screwed up at Carlton filling the place with the fish that John West rejects.

Most of the players who are picked up on the fringes go on to be decent at best. Maybe we’re encouraged by having actually picked up Steele in similar circumstances but imo he’s an exception. We actually have an outstanding record with rookie list and rejects but again it’s not the norm. Marshall, Wilkie, Sinclair, Wood, Hall is actually incredible and thank goodness where would we be without them. The problem is now we’ve forgotten all the duds we wasted picks and money on.

You want to chase Walsh, great knock your socks off. Because he was an outstanding junior went pick one, has lived up to his pick and if fit would be the best mid we’ve had in years. That’s how you jump up the ladder not dumpster diving.

Anyway sounds like Aleer will be a st Kilda and I’ll be cheering him on just don’t expect too much.

That is absolutely not how it works.

It was only 12 months ago you were a fan of us landing Peatling.

Aleer will be the same age as Peatling moving clubs. Peatling was also stuck behind very good players.

This is just what happens at clubs with gun players and depth. Players just don’t get a crack at it.

Barring injury - it’s likely Aleer is playing in the Giants first final. He is evidently rated by a side better than us.

 

[CaptainRisky]

What’s your ideal scenario? Keep Collard?
Didn’t get a lot of it on the weekend pre-sub but a couple of very deft touches/knock ons. Just want to see him with some continuity

He had 9 straight games to show us, he is no where near it ATM but hopefully over summer he can add 1 or 2 kgs to that 60kg frame