List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[SurreyBlue]

Cinc's limitations are clear, we cant hold a player whos only role is a lock down tagger. We learnt with Ed Curnow that modern footy doesnt have room for this type of player anymore. Lemmey just looks that far off it that its hard to see it turning, have to cut the chord eventually.

That’s just incorrect. He’s a half back with good defence and offence.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Reality is. All this list has achieved since the rebuild, is a Prelim 2 years ago.

How are we expecting a different result next year with the same group?

Personally… I’d trade anyone, if it got us the players and qualities below to lead us to take the next step.

We lack qualities such leadership, aggression, speed and foot skills.

We also lack in quality outside run and ball use in the midfield, HB and Wings, as well as a quality small forward, to go with Williams and Evans.

We could improve depth all over.

We have some exciting kids under 23.
Lord, Cowan, Smith, 2x Hollands, HOF, HOK, Carroll, Wilson, Motlop, Young, Evans, Charleson & Moir.

That we need to build around and drive better standards.

 

[HaydossJ]

Frampton from the Pies? Place holder until HOF returns.

He is basically the same player as Young, but we need one of them playing VFL if god forbid Weiters gets injured.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

I'd also love to see Walsh take over the captaincy next year from Crippa.

I would prefer to see him play 20 games in a season before doing something like that, If Cripps was to step back Weiters looks every bit the skipper.

 

[Juddrockz]

Khamis is taking McGovern's role as swing man

Yeah,can play back or forward.

 

[COACH25]

Gothard looks pretty elusive.
What would it take to get him?

If we could lose Fog and Fanta, that'd leave us with a developing group of Frankie, Mots, Durds, Flynn...plus maybe Gothard/Rosas?
I'm not so confident on White and Durds.

2nd round pick and swap of thirds

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Wilson is re-signed already, Fogarty is under contract, Kemp is also out of contract and not mentioned.

Evans and Motlop are two that I would pen in for 1 year with a 1 year option, rather than the flat 2.

Yep, wouldn't be offering either of them any more than 1 year.

Frankie's had a purple patch over the past month or so, and people are aboard the wagon....but don't forget that for most of the season he stunk it up and was running around in the magoos, and a definite delisting prospect. Happy to give him another year based on what he's shown he can deliver.

Motlop had a very ordinary year...was good though in last night's training drill. He's young enough to be offered another 1 year contract, but if another club comes a knockin' with a good offer, you'd have to listen.

Reckon Walter White may be in a spot of bother. Him and Flynn are very similar players, and not sure it there's the need or room to have both on the list. Right now I'd have Flynn marginally ahead based on what we've seen so far, but Walter would be stiff to be delisted.

Others definitely in the firing line would be Boyd and Cincotta - both seem to have fallen out of favour - and of course Orazio, who's good is electrifying, but just can't get onto the park. We took the chance but it hasn't worked.

 

[Juddrockz]

What are we looking at for our outs? Quite a bit of experience out the door from these probables, with more older heads knocking on the door at the end of ‘26 (Saad, Haynes, Newman + the ZW conundrum/payback)
1. JSOS
3. Motlop (?)
11. McGovern
12. TDK
13. Acres (?)
14. Fantasia
15. Docherty
20. EH (?)
25. Binns (?)
31. Lemmey (?)
39. Cincotta
45. F.Young (?)

Will be an interesting off-season and list make-up come 2026.

I'd keep 3 off that list,not counting TDK and JSOS.

 

[HaydossJ]

Could we pay out Binnsy?

 

[Juddrockz]

God the O’Farrell injury still stings.

Grab a mature player to stop gap the hole for a year or two until O'farrell gets back to his best and Dean comes in.

 

[Crippa#9]

Who I think are strong chance to depart:

Docherty - retired
De Koning - exiting via free agency
Silvagni - exiting via free agency
Acres - traded (3rd rounder?)
McGovern - exiting via free agency. (would like him to stay as back-line cover for 12 months)
Fantasia - delisted
Lemmey - delisted
Cincotta - delisted
Boyd - delisted
White - delisted / maybe rookie'd.
Duffy - delisted
Monahan - delisted.

I think the club may even look at contracted players in Jaxon Binns, Lewis Young and Lachie Fogarty and see if they can move their deals onto another club. Fogarty & Binns in particular.

Expecting MOTLOP, EVANS, HAYNES, KEMP, FLYNN YOUNG, WILSON to be given 1-2 year contracts.

 

[HaydossJ]

Who I think are strong chance to depart:

Docherty - retired
De Koning - exiting via free agency
Silvagni - exiting via free agency
Acres - traded (3rd rounder?)
McGovern - exiting via free agency. (would like him to stay as back-line cover for 12 months)
Fantasia - delisted
Lemmey - delisted
Cincotta - delisted
Boyd - delisted
White - delisted / maybe rookie'd.
Duffy - delisted
Monahan - delisted.

I think the club may even look at contracted players in Jaxon Binns, Lewis Young and Lachie Fogarty and see if they can move their deals onto another club. Fogarty & Binns in particular.

Expecting MOTLOP, EVANS, HAYNES, KEMP, FLYNN YOUNG, WILSON to be given 1-2 year contracts.

Boyd is contracted, otherwise agree.

Would hold onto Young as flexible depth.

 

[ABigOlDoofus]

Gothard looks pretty elusive.
What would it take to get him?

If we could lose Fog and Fanta, that'd leave us with a developing group of Frankie, Mots, Durds, Flynn...plus maybe Gothard/Rosas?
I'm not so confident on White and Durds.

Love Gothard and GWS have a history of nailing their small forward picks. Daniels and Jones are two of the best smalls in the game currently and Thomas looks like he's going to be really good as well.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Small forwards summary:

If they continue to play Motlop much higher he is worth persisting with, looks a lot quicker around the footy in midfield. Durdin I would look to move (just some absolutely shocking delivery inside 50 again in a game with zero pressure). White, he is likeable but unfortunately I'm starting to think he's pretty limited athletically perhaps? Does do the odd thing that makes you a believer though. Probable delist. Fantasia gone. Fogarty gone unless contracted. Frank

Frank, Flynn and Motlop worth persisting with, although Flynn also looks better up the ground and f50 connection

 

[CoachB]

I'd also love to see Walsh take over the captaincy next year from Crippa.

Based on the stability mantra hard to see any change like that next year

 

[Coona Blues]

I'd also love to see Walsh take over the captaincy next year from Crippa.

Starting to feel he may be the best candidate, but he needs to establish a solid season on the park first. Coming off a couple of interrupted years is not a great entry.

We have had turmoil and need stability. I am not a fan of Weitering taking the reins given some of his “lapses” and authoritarian persona. It looks like time for Crippa to pass it on for his own sake as well as a possible need for a new voice.

Interesting conundrum. No perfect answer that I can see.

 

[Ace69]

Reality is. All this list has achieved since the rebuild, is a Prelim 2 years ago.

How are we expecting a different result next year with the same group?

Personally… I’d trade anyone, if it got us the players and qualities below to lead us to take the next step.

We lack qualities such leadership, aggression, speed and foot skills.

We also lack in quality outside run and ball use in the midfield, HB and Wings, as well as a quality small forward, to go with Williams and Evans.

We could improve depth all over.

We have some exciting kids under 23.
Lord, Cowan, Smith, 2x Hollands, HOF, HOK, Carroll, Wilson, Motlop, Young, Evans, Charleson & Moir.

That we need to build around and drive better standards.

it's these kids that now have to change the standards/culture imo especially if they stick around they will be our core.
Lord, Cowan, Smith, 2x Hollands, HOF, HOK, Carroll, Wilson, Motlop, Young, Evans, Charleson & Moir.

 

[Blues2013]

Who I think are strong chance to depart:

Docherty - retired
De Koning - exiting via free agency
Silvagni - exiting via free agency
Acres - traded (3rd rounder?)
McGovern - exiting via free agency. (would like him to stay as back-line cover for 12 months)
Fantasia - delisted
Lemmey - delisted
Cincotta - delisted
Boyd - delisted
White - delisted / maybe rookie'd.
Duffy - delisted
Monahan - delisted.

I think the club may even look at contracted players in Jaxon Binns, Lewis Young and Lachie Fogarty and see if they can move their deals onto another club. Fogarty & Binns in particular.

Expecting MOTLOP, EVANS, HAYNES, KEMP, FLYNN YOUNG, WILSON to be given 1-2 year contracts.

imo acres for a third rounder would be a massive win. Don’t see it transpiring

 

[Stamos]

Who I think are strong chance to depart:

McGovern - exiting via free agency. (would like him to stay as back-line cover for 12 months)

Gov isn't a Free Agent

 

[yibbida]

Who I think are strong chance to depart:

Docherty - retired
De Koning - exiting via free agency
Silvagni - exiting via free agency
Acres - traded (3rd rounder?)
McGovern - exiting via free agency. (would like him to stay as back-line cover for 12 months)
Fantasia - delisted
Lemmey - delisted
Cincotta - delisted
Boyd - delisted
White - delisted / maybe rookie'd.
Duffy - delisted
Monahan - delisted.

So 9 off the primary list and 1 Cat A Rookie and 2 Cat B Rookies?

thats a lot of players to replace in a single off-season.

 

[Sector 7G]

So 9 off the primary list and 1 Cat A Rookie and 2 Cat B Rookies?

thats a lot of players to replace in a single off-season.

We will have 2 compensation picks which could get swallowed up on FS/NGA and then pick 34 and 43 , 61.

We really don't have a lot of assets to make big moves this season unless we trade out another top 6 player.

We also can't target FA as it will impact our compensation. I don't think we are going to see big moves.

Needs
Ruck to replace TDK - note someone like Reeves is going to cost a late 2nd rounder. Could go with Flynn Riley as a Rookie
SF(do we just back Frankie and Mots)
Key defender -we have lost 2 in JSOS and HOF but and will get Dean
Line breaking mid - They ar rare and expensive so maybe just back Jagga in.
Line Braking HB - Saad and Houston both went for firsts.

 

[ctwenty1]

Who I think are strong chance to depart:

Docherty - retired
De Koning - exiting via free agency
Silvagni - exiting via free agency
Acres - traded (3rd rounder?)
McGovern - exiting via free agency. (would like him to stay as back-line cover for 12 months)
Fantasia - delisted
Lemmey - delisted
Cincotta - delisted
Boyd - delisted
White - delisted / maybe rookie'd.
Duffy - delisted
Monahan - delisted.

I think the club may even look at contracted players in Jaxon Binns, Lewis Young and Lachie Fogarty and see if they can move their deals onto another club. Fogarty & Binns in particular.

Expecting MOTLOP, EVANS, HAYNES, KEMP, FLYNN YOUNG, WILSON to be given 1-2 year contracts.

If Lemmey is delisted expect him to be offered a rookie spot

 

[yibbida]

We will have 2 compensation picks which could get swallowed up on FS/NGA and then pick 34 and 43 , 61.

Surely we won't add 5 players from this draft to our primary list. 3 would be more than enough.

 

[Crippa#9]

If Lemmey is delisted expect him to be offered a rookie spot

Wouldnt mind seeing him trialled as a key defender.

He's too 'Josh Schache' for mine. Has nice skills, can take a mark but lacks any power / aggression / competitiveness to cut it at AFL level as a key forward.

 

[Sector 7G]

Surely we won't add 5 players from this draft to our primary list. 3 would be more than enough.

I doubt we do but we are not going to pick up much with the picks we have left. It will be the same next year unless we can get a FA as we hope to get Cody and that will under the current arrangements swallow all our picks