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You can’t just pay players out because we don’t like them.
sure you can. If the club feels they've got the position covered and/or would prefer to add another player and there's no financial issues with the cap, then there's nothing stopping them delisting a player. We've done it before.
 
Please keep Flynn and White on our list.
Even a vfl contract if last resort.
They both deserve the chance.
Could def see the VFL as a landing spot for both, if they wanted to try their luck for an MSD opening.

As we’re unlikely to have a list spot open from the drafts, that will count out SSP train-ons but VFL signings will allow pre-season training with us.

F.Young would be unlucky based on our previous commentary with MSD’s being given more time to get accustomed to AFL level.

Our LM counting of list spots seems to be a little out with what seems like roles still required to be filled. Re-signing Motlop so late in the piece was very perplexing.
 

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sure you can. If the club feels they've got the position covered and/or would prefer to add another player and there's no financial issues with the cap, then there's nothing stopping them delisting a player. We've done it before.

I think we did it with LOB who was occupying a rookie spot. Have we done it with someone else?

I want to know why we contracted Binns to a 2 year contract. Was there a queue of clubs waiting to sign him at the time? No fricking way. Really stupid list management signing such fringe players to multi-year contracts. Binns is further away from the first team now than he ever has been.
 
I think we did it with LOB who was occupying a rookie spot. Have we done it with someone else?

I want to know why we contracted Binns to a 2 year contract. Was there a queue of clubs waiting to sign him at the time? No fricking way. Really stupid list management signing such fringe players to multi-year contracts. Binns is further away from the first team now than he ever has been.
I agree about Binns..l can only think at the time they wanted to lock in cheap depth. Now with all the want away players and this year's trades he is no longer required.
 
Its being framed that Carlton will get to choose to keep only one of either McGovern or Elijah.. I just cant imagine that Gov is sitting around waiting for us to decide if we want to keep him and that there would be no shortage of clubs on the phone with offers.. he might love the club and be happy to wait it out but between the Dogs, North, West Coast & Pies I would expect Gov to move.
 
Where did you get that come from? 18 months? That's his entire 2025 gone.
just form I’ve experienced second hand and what I’ve read.

Biggest issue is gaining confidence in its use as if you re-injure you are back to square one.

However everyone is different so he could be back round 1
 

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My apologies in advance but are there any early vibes or chatter from the ITK posters about other club delistings that we ask to 'train on' with us, such as Derksen from GWS ?
 
I think we did it with LOB who was occupying a rookie spot. Have we done it with someone else?

I want to know why we contracted Binns to a 2 year contract. Was there a queue of clubs waiting to sign him at the time? No fricking way. Really stupid list management signing such fringe players to multi-year contracts. Binns is further away from the first team now than he ever has been.
If there was an area of Austin’s list management i feel could improve, it’s certainly some of the contract/extensions to certain fringe players who have been given illogically multiple years…
 
I think on-field we will feel the loss of Charlie a bit less than what we might expect.

Looking at the final 4 sides this season, none of them have a traditional big time key forward. Geelong probably are the closest, but Cameron does not play as a traditional key forward. He's almost more an old school Centre Half Forward but with the running capacity of a wingman. He's a unicorn, but isn't a typical inside 50 target, he's more like a HFF in a KPF body. Brisbane had a couple of young, relatively unknown keys. They had big moments, but they aren't stars. Collingwood almost infamously had no key target, to the point where they picked a tall person just to sit the ball on his head for others to crumb off and Hawthorn, almost similarly to Brisbane, have a few young keys but no real star and rely on them to be competitive targets that the crumbers feed off.

We don't really need 2 A grade keys, the games best sides have shown that's not exactly how you get it done anymore. Harry as the target, HOK as a target to feed off and backup ruck really is all we need in the KPF category.
 
I think on-field we will feel the loss of Charlie a bit less than what we might expect.

Looking at the final 4 sides this season, none of them have a traditional big time key forward. Geelong probably are the closest, but Cameron does not play as a traditional key forward. He's almost more an old school Centre Half Forward but with the running capacity of a wingman. He's a unicorn, but isn't a typical inside 50 target, he's more like a HFF in a KPF body. Brisbane had a couple of young, relatively unknown keys. They had big moments, but they aren't stars. Collingwood almost infamously had no key target, to the point where they picked a tall person just to sit the ball on his head for others to crumb off and Hawthorn, almost similarly to Brisbane, have a few young keys but no real star and rely on them to be competitive targets that the crumbers feed off.

We don't really need 2 A grade keys, the games best sides have shown that's not exactly how you get it done anymore. Harry as the target, HOK as a target to feed off and backup ruck really is all we need in the KPF category.
Really interesting interview on SEN with Andrew Russel this morning

Basically said Charlie's biggest issue is mental pressure of constant focus and attention, as well as the grind of training etc
 
just form I’ve experienced second hand and what I’ve read.

Biggest issue is gaining confidence in its use as if you re-injure you are back to square one.

However everyone is different so he could be back round 1
Seems to have become this accepted thing where Kemp is out for most of 2026. Just wonder if it came from some actual Intel or we've become conditioned to all our injuries taking twice as long to recover from as normal.

Achilles injuries are pretty random.
 

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Seems to have become this accepted thing where Kemp is out for most of 2026. Just wonder if it came from some actual Intel or we've become conditioned to all our injuries taking twice as long to recover from as normal.

Achilles injuries are pretty random.
I know nothing of Kemp's specifici circumstnaces - just goiing off second experience

I dont think he will miss all of 2026 but expect him back in the second half
 
Really interesting interview on SEN with Andrew Russel this morning

Basically said Charlie's biggest issue is mental pressure of constant focus and attention, as well as the grind of training etc

I cannot stand that guy. The club kept him on despite the poor results in fitness / conditioning. He finally got the flick and everything was someone else's fault. Took zero responsibility for any of it.
 
I cannot stand that guy. The club kept him on despite the poor results in fitness / conditioning. He finally got the flick and everything was someone else's fault. Took zero responsibility for any of it.
More like there was a complete lack of high performance culture at the club, which limited him introducing the standards that he wanted.
 
More like there was a complete lack of high performance culture at the club, which limited him introducing the standards that he wanted.

Sure there's probably a bit of blame to share around. Not according to JR though. 100% someone else's fault for everything that happened in the area he was responsible for.

The sign of a great leader - take zero responsibility.

Hasn't landed a job anywhere else. Tells you something.
 
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