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[serial_thrilla]

 

[Dayts]

Even with Switta coming in, we feel too tall and slow.

It looks from the outside that if they want to play Darcy it needs to be Voss that goes out. But they don’t want to do that. Could it be we have finally got to a point where we have too many good tall forwards.

Maybe we trade you and trail Voss down back.

His Argo and attack on the ball be elite
Decent mitts too

 

[BoneBroth]

Maybe we trade you and trail Voss down back.

His Argo and attack on the ball be elite
Decent mitts too

That bone broth is just about to kick in. I don’t want to see Voss in the backline, I think he is too reckless for that. But I also don’t want to lose him, it’s a pretty tricky list management situation going forward.

 

[Dayts]

Plus no celebrations
That’d be a killer

 

[FreoRicci]

Would anyone be keen for Patrick Cripps

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Patrick Cripps

Age

30

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

being tapped on the shoulder to return to WA?

I know he’s 30, but 2-3 years of contested grunt work surrounded by Serong and Brayshaw would be a top 4 team tbh.

Carlton are cooked. Probably will start rebuilding

 

[FreoRicci]

Even with Switta coming in, we feel too tall and slow.

It looks from the outside that if they want to play Darcy it needs to be Voss that goes out. But they don’t want to do that. Could it be we have finally got to a point where we have too many good tall forwards.

Hawthorn are going with an identical line up.
Barass/Battle and Sicily with Dear, Chol and Gunston.

 

[AstonSouffle]

Would anyone be keen for Patrick Cripps being tapped on the shoulder to return to WA?

I know he’s 30, but 2-3 years of contested grunt work surrounded by Serong and Brayshaw would be a top 4 team tbh.

Carlton are cooked. Probably will start rebuilding

Cripps isn’t too far away from a Fyfe level decline imo, he’d cost far too much with this right around the corner.

 

[thistimeforsure]

Hawthorn are going with an identical line up.
Barass/Battle and Sicily with Dear, Chol and Gunston.

No 2nd ruckman though are they ?

 

[swanny1234]

God that one liner about Fort shits me. It's so disingenuous. It completely ignores two facts, first that Fort is not a trash ruck, second that McInerny dominated many games for Brisbane on the way to the grand final. They don't make the grand final without him, so this factoid about Fort is complete rubbish.

I'd argue Jackson is a better ruck than either Fort or McInerney, so my point stands. If Brisbane can win a flag with either of them as the main ruck, we can win a flag with Jackson as ours.

I will say that over the last few weeks the dual rucks have looked ok, the flow on affect of being too tall across the board has been a concern though.

 

[swanny1234]

They are playing, Switta is in though and Ras out so I assume Jackson is going to be playing more mid time too as the big bodied mid we lack.

Yeah, I still think we're one tall too many.. Switta back helps the pressure though.

 

[Nodgey]

Cripps isn’t too far away from a Fyfe level decline imo, he’d cost far too much with this right around the corner.

Plus he’s their captain. Captains rarely leave their clubs.

 

[swanny1234]

Plus he’s their captain. Captains rarely leave their clubs.

I present exhibit A: O. Allen.

 

[mike91]

I present exhibit A: O. Allen.

True, though he is being pushed out, hence why it's pathetic the treatment he is receiving from his "fans"

 

[One_Wing]

Would anyone be keen for Patrick Cripps being tapped on the shoulder to return to WA?

I know he’s 30, but 2-3 years of contested grunt work surrounded by Serong and Brayshaw would be a top 4 team tbh.

Carlton are cooked. Probably will start rebuilding

Would certainly help Peel

 

[swanny1234]

True, though he is being pushed out, hence why it's pathetic the treatment he is receiving from his "fans"

Is he being pushed out? Eagles have put a contract in front of him that's pretty reasonable given his injury issues. If our captain was leaving for big $ i'd be giving him a fair bit of sh*t too.

 

[Alfonz]

Hawthorn are going with an identical line up.
Barass/Battle and Sicily with Dear, Chol and Gunston.

No they are not. Sicily and Gunston are mobile 3rd talls, not genuine KPP. Even Battle is more of a third tall. And there's no genuine 2nd ruck. We are playing more >195cm players.

If we were going with an "identical line up", then our backline equivalents to the names you mentioned above would be Cox, Chapman and Worner. There would be no McDonald in the side. Our forward equivalents would be Treacy, Jackson and Sturt/Amiss. There would be no Voss in the side. Leaving Darcy v Meek in the ruck.

Maybe Hawthorn are too small as opposed to us being too tall ... time will tell ... but we are definitely going in with a different structure of side to Hawthorn.

 

[mike91]

Is he being pushed out? Eagles have put a contract in front of him that's pretty reasonable given his injury issues. If our captain was leaving for big $ i'd be giving him a fair bit of sh*t too.

100% he is being pushed out. Eagles want the pick and leaving him hanging to dry

 

[Kapow!!!]

I'd argue Jackson is a better ruck than either Fort or McInerney, so my point stands. If Brisbane can win a flag with either of them as the main ruck, we can win a flag with Jackson as ours.

I will say that over the last few weeks the dual rucks have looked ok, the flow on affect of being too tall across the board has been a concern though.

Fair concern and honestly if Darcy is going to be a long term part of the club and we're to make this work (other than revisiting Voss and the forwardline make up) Darcy has to be using his body around the ground and be more of an enforcer than he currently has been and use his size as a proper point of difference to his advantage rather than merely being a big body in the centre circle. He has to be helping break tags, clear space and split packs. This would be immensely beneficial considering how small our midfield core is.

I back him in there because this is something he has shown in the past, I think he's very down on confidence (especially in his new body shape) and needs a decent run at it to gain that swagger back. But if he's not able to get to that level again then his position in the best 23 is rightly under question and the questions being posed so far, whilst perhaps a tad premature, aren't without merit.

 

[Purple Suit]

100% he is being pushed out. Eagles want the pick and leaving him hanging to dry

Yep,
It’s not even WC’s fault, it’s the system. If there was no compo he’d be getting a 5-6 year deal as they have no one to pay and all their experience has nearly left or can’t get on the park. They are going to be terrible for a very long time, it’s fantastic.

 

[swanny1234]

100% he is being pushed out. Eagles want the pick and leaving him hanging to dry

Not sure if signing an 800k a year contract at the reigning premiers is exactly being hung out to dry...

 

[mike91]

Not sure if signing an 800k a year contract at the reigning premiers is exactly being hung out to dry...

WCE are hanging him out to dry, not Brisbane. Completely different. WCE doing him dirty but you can easily see why

 

[swanny1234]

WCE are hanging him out to dry, not Brisbane. Completely different. WCE doing him dirty but you can easily see why

Would you really pay 800k a year for Oscar Allen? I reckon Brissie are offering huge overs on what he is worth. You can see why he would go, but I don't think the birds are hanging him out to try by offering him less.

 

[Nodgey]

I present exhibit A: O. Allen.

Exhibits B&C: Chris Judd and Leigh Colbert. I said rarely not never.

 

[Taylor]

Would you really pay 800k a year for Oscar Allen? I reckon Brissie are offering huge overs on what he is worth. You can see why he would go, but I don't think the birds are hanging him out to try by offering him less.

Oscar Allen would be the cheapest mature body forward on the market end of this season, especially if he only costs $800-$900k a year.

Consider that if both are fit, big assumption, the comparison between Patrick Voss and Oscar Allen. You could get Voss for half the contract price, but you have to cough up a heap of draft currency and the more capable the player the more you're spending.

Brisbane could get Curnow off Carlton with a bounty of picks and $1.8m a year to him. Oscar Allen is the value buy.

WC were hoping to retain him for 3 years, to protect against the risk of him medically retiring. I don't have a problem with that, but they wouldn't be under offering compared to the market (WC are the smallest offer to Allen currently from multiple clubs as far as I know, by a long way) if they didn't get the draft pick #2 for letting him leave on a bigger deal.

 

[swanny1234]

Oscar Allen would be the cheapest mature body forward on the market end of this season, especially if he only costs $800-$900k a year.

Consider that if both are fit, big assumption, the comparison between Patrick Voss and Oscar Allen. You could get Voss for half the contract price, but you have to cough up a heap of draft currency and the more capable the player the more you're spending.

Brisbane could get Curnow off Carlton with a bounty of picks and $1.8m a year to him. Oscar Allen is the value buy.

WC were hoping to retain him for 3 years, to protect against the risk of him medically retiring. I don't have a problem with that, but they wouldn't be under offering compared to the market (WC are the smallest offer to Allen currently from multiple clubs as far as I know, by a long way) if they didn't get the draft pick #2 for letting him leave on a bigger deal.

Given his injury history you'd be super wary offering that sort of money. I think West Coast benefit way more than Brisbane do. You're taking a huge gamble by spending a big salary cap piece on a guy that has struggled to consistently stay on the park.
If WCE get pick 2 for him they walk away like robbers in my eyes.

 

[GingerDocker]

Given his injury history you'd be super wary offering that sort of money. I think West Coast benefit way more than Brisbane do. You're taking a huge gamble by spending a big salary cap piece on a guy that has struggled to consistently stay on the park.
If WCE get pick 2 for him they walk away like robbers in my eyes.

They did it with Daniher...I presume that's the model.