List Mgmt. 2025 Premiership(s) List Making and Trading

[crows dude]

What are port doing to satisfy this? I have not read about them upgrading rookies although it seems they need to upgrade 3 of them having taken no picks in the ND

This from their website

Cripps has just confirmed on Trade Radio that Cochrane, Ramm and Lai will be elevated to the main list at the draft. The club itself have said that they will have three picks in the rookie draft. So they will go 36 and 6 and 1 rule where we are going 38 4 and 1

 

[crows dude]

They might just upgrade the blokes they took in the MSD.

They are upgrading Cochrane Ramm and Lai

 

[Vader]

What are port doing to satisfy this? I have not read about them upgrading rookies although it seems they need to upgrade 3 of them having taken no picks in the ND

Answered 1 post above yours:

They are upgrading 3 rookies today

Cripps has confirmed on Trade Radio that Cochrane, Ramm and Lai will be elevated to the main list at the draft.

 

[Danger in Texas]

They are upgrading Cochrane Ramm and Lai

And Evans too now, apparently

 

[crows dude]

And Evans too now, apparently

Current list gives them 3 Rookie picks

Senior List
1 - Rozee
2 - Powell Pepper
3 - Marshall
4 - Berry
5 - Farrell
6 - Burgoyne
7 - Sinn
8 - Butters
9- Lukosius
10- Soldo
11 - bergman
12- Wines
13 - Whitlock
14 - Honrne-Francis
15 - Georgiades
16 - Aliir
17 - Evans
18 - Sweet
19 - Zerk Thatcher
20 - Ratgugolea
21 - Drew
22 - Anastopolous
23 - Lord
24 - Wehr
25 - Durdin
26 - Brodie
27 - Moraes
28 - Byrne-Jones
29 - Jones
30 - Richards
31 - Lorenz
32 - Cochrane
33 - Visentini
34 - Lai
35 - Mead
36 - ramm

Cat A Rookie
1 - Walsh
2 - mackinlay
3 - Liddy

Cat B Rookie
1 - Barrett
2 - Moss

 

[Fud#3]

All this shows is the 3 picks rule is a waste of time and complicates something which doesn't need to be complicated.

Same as the rookie list, there's no point now with the ability for rookies to be a 35 yo with 300 games under their belt and playing each week.

Just go to 42 on the list, and up to 2 non-football background rookies who can be on the list as long as you like but can't play until they are upgraded.

But then again, it s the AFL.

 

[Golumless]

All this shows is the 3 picks rule is a waste of time and complicates something which doesn't need to be complicated.

Same as the rookie list, there's no point now with the ability for rookies to be a 35 yo with 300 games under their belt and playing each week.

Just go to 42 on the list, and up to 2 non-football background rookies who can be on the list as long as you like but can't play until they are upgraded.

But then again, it s the AFL.

I think the point of it is salary cap relief/manipulation, seeing it gives you a mechanism to pay your depth players (or bottom best 22) less money.

I'll leave it up to you to decide how ****ed that is on an ethical standpoint.

 

[Carn The Texan]

We will be upgrading a rookie today (probably McAndrew), to satisfy the AFL's mandatory 3x ND selections. Then we will select Ah Chee in the PSD. That will fill our senior list.

However, the rookie upgrade will leave us with 2x vacancies on the rookie list. We will be re-drafting Welsh, which fills one vacancy.

Given that we passed with our last selection in the ND, we obviously don't rate the remaining talent in the draft pool. My guess is that we'll pass with our remaining pick in the RD, leaving the vacancy open for filling either in the PSSP (more likely) or later in the MSD (less likely).

is there some advantage to taking an undrafted kid as a pre season pick as opposed to drafting them in the national draft? shorter contract terms? less money?

 

[ET Sloane Home]

is there some advantage to taking an undrafted kid as a pre season pick as opposed to drafting them in the national draft? shorter contract terms? less money?

I’d imagine part of the thinking would be you maybe like 3/4 players but you have reservations about all of them. So you invite them all to come train at the club for 1-2 months and from that can decide if you think 1 is worth investing in

 

[Mutineer]

Well if the word via Ben Waterworth was we had interest in athletic tall overage Forward/ruck Floyd Burmeister on night 2 it makes perfect sense we would take Ludowyke who Twomey had us looking at with our 1st pick given there was no way Hamish and the crew thought he'd be available to us with our 2nd pick.

 

[Carn The Texan]

Well if the word via Ben Waterworth was we had interest in athletic tall overage Forward/ruck Floyd Burmeister on night 2 it makes perfect sense we would take Ludowyke who Twomey had us looking at with our 1st pick given there was no way Hamish and the crew thought he'd be available to us with our 2nd pick.

which makes me wonder why we didnt take a third selection at 56. Presumably we went into night 2 thinking some other player other than Ludowyke would be a worthy selection. so we coudl have taken Ludowyke at 50 or whatever he was, think you beauty he was someone we liked in the top 25 or so, and then get another free hit at a mid with 56?

 

[Linekers Ears]

Good to see the Draft Sugar Hit has arrived and now everyone truly believes our 2 lads will play multiple games on the wing in 2026

Nicks new "three wing" strategy...

 

[chrisso crow]

Is anyone else concerned about our ruck department next year?

ROB will be severely disadvantaged by the new rules, and I can see him getting convincingly beaten at centre bounces.

Why has this not been addressed by our list management team?

Ruckmen have been completely ignored at AFC for many years now.

 

[Golumless]

Is anyone else concerned about our ruck department next year?

ROB will be severely disadvantaged by the new rules, and I can see him getting convincingly beaten at centre bounces.

Why has this not been addressed by our list management team?

Ruckmen have been completely ignored at AFC for many years now.

Not anymore than usual. ROB is ok, and there is no rule change that'll ever happen that make rucks even remotely important, outside of just needing a guy who'll compete.

 

[fuic08]

Is anyone else concerned about our ruck department next year?

ROB will be severely disadvantaged by the new rules, and I can see him getting convincingly beaten at centre bounces.

Why has this not been addressed by our list management team?

Ruckmen have been completely ignored at AFC for many years now.

I think Finnbar will play a bit more than some think with the extra bench player next season.

 

[Cromulant]

Is anyone else concerned about our ruck department next year?

ROB will be severely disadvantaged by the new rules, and I can see him getting convincingly beaten at centre bounces.

Why has this not been addressed by our list management team?

Ruckmen have been completely ignored at AFC for many years now.

Short answer is yes, most people would be concerned.

 

[Vader]

is there some advantage to taking an undrafted kid as a pre season pick as opposed to drafting them in the national draft? shorter contract terms? less money?

Not in terms of player contracts. It does, however, give you a chance to have a better look at them over the summer, often having them train with the AFL playing group to see how they perform at the level.

 

[Vader]

which makes me wonder why we didnt take a third selection at 56. Presumably we went into night 2 thinking some other player other than Ludowyke would be a worthy selection. so we coudl have taken Ludowyke at 50 or whatever he was, think you beauty he was someone we liked in the top 25 or so, and then get another free hit at a mid with 56?

Depends on how many players we had on our merit list, and which (if any) were still on the table at 56. Just because Ludowyke was still available (unexpectedly), despite being near the top of our list, doesn't mean that most of the rest of our list weren't already gone.

The Port team are reported as saying that they went to the Draft with a merit list, but all of the players on their list were gone before their first pick (at #58). Mind you, they could also be lying through their teeth, making excuses for having wasted the club's money in flying to Melbourne for the event and coming away with NOTHING.

 

[Vader]

Is anyone else concerned about our ruck department next year?

ROB will be severely disadvantaged by the new rules, and I can see him getting convincingly beaten at centre bounces.

Why has this not been addressed by our list management team?

Ruckmen have been completely ignored at AFC for many years now.

Yes... but I've been concerned at the lack of development ruckmen on our list for at least 3-4 years now, so it's nothing new. It's not as if a ruck drafted in the 2025 ND would be expected to have a significant impact on the 2026 season anyway.

It's fairly obvious that the club's plan is to trade for ROB's replacement, if/when they think ROB is getting close to the end of the road. They've had multiple opportunities to grab quality SA ruckmen in the last few drafts (Goater & Dobson), and have studiously avoided doing so. Drafting & developing our own ruckmen is obviously not on their agenda at all - so trading appears to be their plan.

We have McAndrew, Maley and Turray as backup rucks, so it's not as if we have none on the list at all.

 

[crows dude]

Ok so we havent upgraded a rookie that i can see. So only two picks plus Ah CHee. This can put to bed the must have 3 picks rule.

 

[Vader]

Ok so we havent upgraded a rookie that i can see. So only two picks plus Ah CHee. This can put to bed the must have 3 picks rule.

The rule is written down in black & white, in the AFL Rules document - which I have attached to multiple posts in the past.

It would appear the AFL are making things up as they go again, or failing to keep their publicly available AFL Rules document up to date with the current rules. ** It wouldn't be the first time they've done this.

 

[TBM]

Doesn't Ah Chee count as one of the 3?

 

[Danger Zone]

The rule is written down in black & white, in the AFL Rules document - which I have attached to multiple posts in the past.

It would appear the AFL are making things up as they go again, or failing to keep their publicly available AFL Rules document up to date with the current rules. ** It wouldn't be the first time they've done this.

Yeah, I am surprised about that too. Must have been a change made there that wasn't publicised to the public.

 

[Cromulant]

The rule is written down in black & white, in the AFL Rules document - which I have attached to multiple posts in the past.

It would appear the AFL are making things up as they go again, or failing to keep their publicly available AFL Rules document up to date with the current rules. ** It wouldn't be the first time they've done this.

Yep these days it doesnt matter if you dont take a pick at all.

 

[MRB37]

Is anyone else concerned about our ruck department next year?

ROB will be severely disadvantaged by the new rules, and I can see him getting convincingly beaten at centre bounces.

Why has this not been addressed by our list management team?

Ruckmen have been completely ignored at AFC for many years now.

Not exactly true, they've made repeated attempts over the years to lure a ready made replacement over and have been unable to do so, so we keep going back to ROB.

Outside of that they've generally decided we can't carry more than 2 pure ruckman on the list, so stuck with a mature back-up in case ROB gets hurt and decided not to have a developing ruck, which then circles back to our need to trade in a ready made one.