Autopsy 2025 Rd 1 Most Embarrassing Loss in Years

[windows1]

The way he selects the team is what does my head in, the 22 is stacked with hard nosed footballers who play in a similar vein to Voss. There's very little flair, creativity and skill - most importantly - in this team.

And he solves it by delisting Owies and putting Evans on the list. Evans is a dud. Showed nothing to warrant being put on the list yet they did it anyway. Very worrying decisions.

 

[windows1]

Our game plan is rubbish, Neanderthal levels of stupidity. Richmond realised we are playing the same stupid style as last year, bomb inside 50 every kick. They knew what that had to do after that, like every other team when they play us.

The most unsophisticated game plan in the competition. Invites panic, when the pressure it up. A whole summer to improve our ball movement and inside 50s but nothing, absolutely nothing has changed.

This is on Voss and the coaching staff. Season done. Trailor, trash rubbish.

It’s fun to play us. Push extras behind the ball. Charge forward on turnover and expose pace and the terrified backline. Rinse repeat. Over 80 points against from 40 inside 50s.

It’s been the game plan to beat us for 3 years and we still fall for it.

 

[carlton_99]

And he solves it by delisting Owies and putting Evans on the list. Evans is a dud. Showed nothing to warrant being put on the list yet they did it anyway. Very worrying decisions.

We traded Owies as part of the deal for 3. Evans was an SSP selection. They are in no way related. Evans wouldn't be near this team if we didn't start Round 1 with 12 players unavailable for selection.

 

[windows1]

o hollands was

O Hollands was rubbish.

Mistake to play him at HB.

He can’t play. Put a line through him and move on.

 

[carlton_99]

He can’t play. Put a line through him and move on.

He very much can play. He has played as a HB for one game where we were putrid. For me he was actually one of the shining lights who used the ball generally very well. But yeh let's put a line through a 20 year old being played in a new position.

 

[windows1]

Cerra's extension.... has made him feel comfortable being comfortably shizen. Walsh's lack of penetration was always an issue but with his back issues that seems to have destroyed what covered for that.

He’s gotten too big too. Insane.

 

[carlton_99]

Cerra's extension.... has made him feel comfortable being comfortably shizen. Walsh's lack of penetration was always an issue but with his back issues that seems to have destroyed what covered for that.

Cerra was not that bad please. 26 disposals, 6 tackles, 5 clearances and 5 inside 50s. He is our best two way mid. First game of the year let's not write players off already.

 

[Blue Reaper]

Cerra was not that bad please. 26 disposals, 6 tackles, 5 clearances and 5 inside 50s. He is our best two way mid. First game of the year let's not write players off already.

Extraordinary, isn’t it?

As with most, I was shattered at the effort and result. But emotive tantrum responses isn’t the way to approach the season, and I’m sure not the way the club will respond.

As you say, it’s one game, one round. The battle to the top 8 is a 23 game odyssey.

 

[SBYM]

Are we all prepared to finish 12th?

 

[Kruezing]

Are we all prepared to finish 12th?

Yeah why not

 

[SBYM]

Yeah why not

sigh

 

[sosos]

Crap result. Everyone’s hurting. There were concerning elements to the game which have continued a worrying trend. So, some fierce course correction is needed.

But I’ve been a supporter for close to 45 years. And I’ll be doing it hopefully for many more years. One result doesn’t change that.

Stick hard and stick long with the club. Don’t waiver when things are tough. And to anyone that questions their own commitment to the club, there’s the door. Follow someone else. You’re not needed.

Almost got a like until the last two sentences. You can't prosecute and judge any other supporter.

But agree with the rest.

 

[sosos]

He can’t play. Put a line through him and move on.

Our only straight runner out of the back line on Thursday night, who at least took it on? No way I am dropping him, or giving up on him. SpiritOfCarlton for sharing the opening round highlights of round 1, 1995, showed me he was one player who ran at it like those champions of yesteryear. Not anywhere near their level yet, but he at least had the guts to try.

I would put him back on a wing, now he's got more of a body to him, with Charlie on the other. Agree he's not a half back.

My replacements at half back are Walsh and Motlop. Use Walsh's greatest strengths, insane run and competitiveness, and teach Motlop how a small forward plays.

 

[AlecDuncan]

And he solves it by delisting Owies and putting Evans on the list. Evans is a dud. Showed nothing to warrant being put on the list yet they did it anyway. Very worrying decisions.

To be fair, he turned Owies into Jagga, and Evans is just steak knives.

Troubling to say we missed a first gamer, but we did.

 

[Cutter66]

BTW Kennedy having a blinder for Dogs

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[Ezayyak]

It’s fun to play us. Push extras behind the ball. Charge forward on turnover and expose pace and the terrified backline. Rinse repeat. Over 80 points against from 40 inside 50s.

It’s been the game plan to beat us for 3 years and we still fall for it.

Exactly. This is exactly the game plan and how easy it is to counter us. You can talk about pressure and all that other stuff but it all means nothing when you don't have a game plan that has any level of sophistication besides contest, contest, contest. This is Ovens and Murray League stuff.

 

[Blueballs38]

Thursday night was the worst performance this century when you take into consideration who we were playing and the fact we were up 41 points by halfway through the second quarter. And this century has had more low moments than any other club.

Our players were prepared for a training run and the second the opposition put some semblance of pressure on it got too hard. Take out Cripps, Weitering and JSOS and the rest were varying level of average to embarrassing.

If we were a club with standards McGovern would not play next week, but watch him lineup for the first bounce, shirk contests, hack kick off the ground because he’s too lazy to pick it up and set a terrible example for anyone under 23 at our club.

This is the thing, what would Mitchell and the Hawks MC do … probably the complete opposite of what’s ours will do. We are pathetic!

 

[Blueballs38]

Cerra was not that bad please. 26 disposals, 6 tackles, 5 clearances and 5 inside 50s. He is our best two way mid. First game of the year let's not write players off already.

I’m writing off this team because for the most part they are conditional mercenaries playing for the pay check and not the glory.

 

[BluStreak]

Yes it was only first rnd, however it was against a team that everyone expected us to defeat. So as we grapple with unrealised expectations we are going to have responses that we may regret later on (or b vindicated).

Listening to Voss's post match interview, a comment he made got me wondering. He said that "you could see that the tiges had more energy".
Now the on field performance of the players was evident but what were the coaches doing to counter that energy that the tiges brought? To me that would be a coaches chance to switch up the game plan or to make some positional moves.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

If he can’t play forward then he should be dropped … can’t defend afraid of the contest gives away goals

These blokes call all play - and play well - that lazy stuff from Brackets, Haynes, even Cow and Doc was just the manifestation of the very bad attitude so many clearly took into the game - that the game was going to be an easy, cruisey win....

Voss has to take heat for that too...

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

I find it odd that certain players, often McGovern, get singled out for a hammering by punters when the reality was that about 20 of the 23 blokes picked Thursday didn't turn up....

As others have said, that's more likely cultural than about an individual.... and needs to be addressed. Fast.

 

[Soapy V]

But he cant play full midfield minutes like Cripps, Walsh, Cerra and Hewett can. The team is unbalanced if all five play together, like we did with Kennedy.

Don’t get me wrong I think Lord is going to be a good player. I wish he could play a second position so we don’t have to play pea hearts like Gov, Mots and Williams.

Fact is he can’t play a second position and he isn’t more effective than any one of the 4 mentioned above so right its better for him to ply his trade in the 2s.

The only thing Lord lacks now is experience and getting used to playing mid minutes for a full game

He has a great engine and is ready. He just needs the time and experience and not much. Keep playing him and it will pay off quickly

 

[skadoosh]

I find it odd that certain players, often McGovern, get singled out for a hammering by punters when the reality was that about 20 of the 23 blokes picked Thursday didn't turn up....

As others have said, that's more likely cultural than about an individual.... and needs to be addressed. Fast.

There are different levels.

Gov regularly does not put his body on the line and does the unthinkable as a defender.
Ie. Shepherding his man and letting the ball bounce through for a goal, kicking the ball off the ground rather than attempting to pick it up etc. Defenders need to contest properly and aggressively (see Weiters)...otherwise are they really defending? Gov almost always fails this aspect.

Even first gamer Lucas showed more guts and put his head over the ball when it was his turn.

 

[DangerousD]

Since June 30 last year we fell in against the Kangas and beat the Eagles.

Oh no, not good reading

 

[blues4flag]

I find it odd that certain players, often McGovern, get singled out for a hammering by punters when the reality was that about 20 of the 23 blokes picked Thursday didn't turn up....

As others have said, that's more likely cultural than about an individual.... and needs to be addressed. Fast.

McGovern, McKay, Young - 3 examples mentally weak footballers who consistently struggle under pressure. Gov and McKay are both great athletes and can dominate when confidence is up, but the next poor moment or game is just around the corner.

We as supporters accept physical limitations and limited scope for improvement. Maybe it's time we accept the same for the mental side. Been watching footy long enough to know that things rarely improve post 22.