List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[gtrain23]

Jack would be good down back
But he isn’t a big fish

Gets thrown around a lot like the word legend

 

[Pedro]

We all know they'll be upset.

That's what it makes it even better.

I was heartbroken when Daisy left us for Blues. Not happy about both Mick's going there. Wasn't thrilled when Wright went there either.

About time we got one back.

What a roaring success that was for Carlton. All three were pretty much toast by the time they got there

 

[gouki88]

Jeez the carryon over a slow, injury prone and undersized KPD who’s had one good season out of ten is a bit much! Is it due to the fascination around list management? Or the fact he’s currently a Carlton footballer?

Silvagni certainly doesn’t scream a great fit at Collingwood to me and perhaps even a questionable allocation of resources given Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes and TJ are all contracted for at least 2026. It feels a bit like the Doedee move by Brisbane to me.

Silvagni is miles better than those players, only 2 of whom can actually play key back

 

[Pedro]

Jeez the carryon over a slow, injury prone and undersized KPD who’s had one good season out of ten is a bit much! Is it due to the fascination around list management? Or the fact he’s currently a Carlton footballer?

Silvagni certainly doesn’t scream a great fit at Collingwood to me and perhaps even a questionable allocation of resources given Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes and TJ are all contracted for at least 2026. It feels a bit like the Doedee move by Brisbane to me.

Prior to this year I would have said no way. He has shown a bit though. I think its likely that Howe will hang them up. I'd rather see Sivagni in the side than Dean or the youngsters (who aren't up to it at the moment imo). And his cost suits our draft pick budget as it curretly stands which is bugger all.

 

[Apex36]

Jeez the carryon over a slow, injury prone and undersized KPD who’s had one good season out of ten is a bit much! Is it due to the fascination around list management? Or the fact he’s currently a Carlton footballer?

Silvagni certainly doesn’t scream a great fit at Collingwood to me and perhaps even a questionable allocation of resources given Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes and TJ are all contracted for at least 2026. It feels a bit like the Doedee move by Brisbane to me.

None of the 4 players listed are guaranteed to make it, and if we’re talking key defence I don’t really know why Ryan is even in the conversation. TJ, maybe given his long arms could play taller, but Ryan, nah.

I’ve never minded JSOS, he has reasonably good hands and he was having somewhat of a breakout year in defence this year. As a third tall I think he’d work well for us assuming Howe pulls stumps this year. Probs a bit OTT comparing him to a bloke coming off multiple knee recos, and we all know how bad Carlton’s high performance team are. I’d back Wade and co to get him right.

 

[SchuPie]

We need at least another KPD so I can’t see the harm in chasing a guy that can hold down the position for a few year - and potentially swing forward given in-game needs
And he UFA
Plus, in a weak draft, if he comes across, he’ll only give Carlton 2nd round compo

 

[sr36]

I can understand the thinking behind calling him a “big fish”

He’s a Silvagni. Carlton royalty, going to the arch rival. Which doesn’t happen often

It was Twomey who said we had a big fish, who a couple of weeks later (after Rowell re-signed) said we didn't have a big fish.

Either pure click bait or it was thought that we were going to get Rowell.

 

[sr36]

None of the 4 players listed are guaranteed to make it, and if we’re talking key defence I don’t really know why Ryan is even in the conversation. TJ, maybe given his long arms could play taller, but Ryan, nah.

I doubt TJ will ever be strong enough. Even Cochrane is looking more like a runner than a tall. I don't think we've got a kpd coming through.

Silvagni was good down back. He was marking the footy and kicking it beautifully.

 

[Anzacday]

He’s up there with stronz

No longer with us, (posting wise that is).
Be wary of visiting the blueballs board.

 

[SchuPie]

It was Twomey who said we had a big fish, who a couple of weeks later (after Rowell re-signed) said we didn't have a big fish.

Either pure click bait or it was thought that we were going to get Rowell.

We must have been so close to snagging him
Seems like we’ve already written our offer to him in 2 years time

 

[soreplums]

It was Twomey who said we had a big fish, who a couple of weeks later (after Rowell re-signed) said we didn't have a big fish.

Either pure click bait or it was thought that we were going to get Rowell.

My mail was that Rowell was locked in. They were super confident that he would have been playing for us in 2026 as was most of the competition

 

[Tista7000]

Silvangi turning 28 end of year, not sure how I feel about the deal being 5 years

 

[SchuPie]

My mail was that Rowell was locked in. They were super confident that he would have been playing for us in 2026 as was most of the competition

Just what we needed

 

[satty]

We need at least another KPD so I can’t see the harm in chasing a guy that can hold down the position for a few year - and potentially swing forward given in-game needs
And he UFA
Plus, in a weak draft, if he comes across, he’ll only give Carlton 2nd round compo

Agreed, it takes about 4-5 years for a kpd draft pick to fully develop and become a solid contributor or become an A grade talent.

Jsos would be the bridge until our next wave of young defenders are ready to take over.

 

[Dtennent94]

IN: Silvagni
OUT: Howe, Dean

Doesn’t fill me with a whole lot of confidence given the struggles we’ve had for KPD depth this year… in an ideal world, Howe will play on at close to bottom dollar and we delist Dean.

 

[Eric Shin]

Jeez the carryon over a slow, injury prone and undersized KPD who’s had one good season out of ten is a bit much! Is it due to the fascination around list management? Or the fact he’s currently a Carlton footballer?

Silvagni certainly doesn’t scream a great fit at Collingwood to me and perhaps even a questionable allocation of resources given Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes and TJ are all contracted for at least 2026. It feels a bit like the Doedee move by Brisbane to me.

Say Howe retires, and one of Frampton/Moore is injured next year. You’re seriously putting your faith in Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes (who will be unavailable for at least half the season), and TJ to play against Cameron, Hogan, Thilthorpe, Darcy, Treacy, etc.

Doesn’t seem sustainable to me.

 

[Rorzza]

If there is any substance to the Rowel rumours, it's good to see the club is targeting midfield 'beasts' to replace Mitchell and help the Daicos bros!

 

[SchuPie]

If there is any substance to the Rowel rumours, it's good to see the club is targeting midfield 'beasts' to replace Mitchell and help the Daicos bros!

Rowell rang Fly and thanked him for the offer
Fly then said - see you in 2 years
In his presser

 

[gouki88]

IN: Silvagni
OUT: Howe, Dean

Doesn’t fill me with a whole lot of confidence given the struggles we’ve had for KPD depth this year… in an ideal world, Howe will play on at close to bottom dollar and we delist Dean.

I think the hope is that in essence McInnes would be another 'in'

 

[sr36]

Say Howe retires, and one of Frampton/Moore is injured next year. You’re seriously putting your faith in Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes (who will be unavailable for at least half the season), and TJ to play against Cameron, Hogan, Thilthorpe, Darcy, Treacy, etc.

Doesn’t seem sustainable to me.

I really hope Howe doesn't retire.

But JSOS is a good play either way, I think. Not exciting - but it sures up our talls for the next 4 years - can't rely on kids coming through - most of them don't come through.

 

[SchuPie]

I think the hope is that in essence McInnes would be another 'in'

I “hope” that we’re not basing our end of year trade and FA decisions on hope

 

[manicpie]

I really hope Howe doesn't retire.

But JSOS is a good play either way, I think. Not exciting - but it sures up our talls for the next 4 years - can't rely on kids coming through - most of them don't come through.

His 1 on 1 work is exactly what we need. He's a free hit and would absolutely improve our defence. I hope we get him

 

[manicpie]

I “hope” that we’re not basing our end of year trade and FA decisions on hope

I think that's why we're targeting SOS

 

[nahnah]

The only concern is the bad injury history for me. He was Carltons best defender in the games he played from what I saw and his athletic traits should do well in our system

 

[manicpie]

The only concern is the bad injury history for me. He was Carltons best defender in the games he played from what I saw and his athletic traits should do well in our system

He's the perfect fit. We can't afford a gun KD and don't have picks to compete for the real gun Defenders. He would come for free and his 1 on 1 work is just as good if not better than the big name Defenders. I hope we get him because we need him