List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread

[No SPIN]

My mail was that Rowell was locked in. They were super confident that he would have been playing for us in 2026 as was most of the competition

So what’s your mail about why we failed?

 

[well left]

I think the hope is that in essence McInnes would be another 'in'

Also depending on where we see Smith playing longer term I could also see us picking up a state league defender or DFA that’s bigger than Dean.

 

[satty]

He's the perfect fit. We can't afford a gun KD and don't have picks to compete for the real gun Defenders. He would come for free and his 1 on 1 work is just as good if not better than the big name Defenders. I hope we get him because we need him

We can organise picks to get a gun defender, it’s just that we need to prioritise getting a gun mid next to naicos.

Hope we can convince butters to come to us.

 

[manicpie]

We can organise picks to get a gun defender, it’s just that we need to prioritise getting a gun mid next to naicos.

Hope we can convince butters to come to us.

The most attractive part about SOS is that he's free and that would allow us to use other means to get a good mid

 

[satty]

Think one of pez or beau will need to make the permanent leap to the midfield next year.

 

[SchuPie]

I think that's why we're targeting SOS

Yep - and I’m also hoping Howe stays on another year

 

[Pistol Night]

Think one of pez or beau will need to make the permanent leap to the midfield next year.

Beau

 

[satty]

Beau

We are paying pez 900k , don’t think you would do that if you don’t see him as a full time mid.

 

[Pistol Night]

We are paying pez 900k , don’t think you would do that if you don’t see him as a full time mid.

Room for both

 

[Mollythedolly]

Jack Silvagni …

He’s a plodder.

There, I said it. Don’t come @ me.

Yeah, I’m ambivalent. Would be very handy depth if coming cheaply but the suggested $700k doesn’t equate to that. Would prefer we persist with McInnes who is a similar size.

 

[Mollythedolly]

ROB from Adelaide resigned today.

Re-signed?

 

[manicpie]

Re-signed?

He was so close

 

[Bianconeri]

Jeez the carryon over a slow, injury prone and undersized KPD who’s had one good season out of ten is a bit much! Is it due to the fascination around list management? Or the fact he’s currently a Carlton footballer?

Silvagni certainly doesn’t scream a great fit at Collingwood to me and perhaps even a questionable allocation of resources given Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes and TJ are all contracted for at least 2026. It feels a bit like the Doedee move by Brisbane to me.

Do any of these players have Silvagni’s aerial game?

The closest are probably Ryan and TJ are probably the two furthest from being key position players atm.

I’m not sure 4 players, 3 of which are in our bottom ten and who’ve played a total of 5 games in our defence are going to dictate how we build our best 23 next season.

 

[soreplums]

So what’s your mail about why we failed?

None. Everyone was surprised it didn’t happen.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Darcy Gardiner

27

Darcy Gardiner

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.0

1star

would be a decent pickup too.

 

[Apex36]

I doubt TJ will ever be strong enough. Even Cochrane is looking more like a runner than a tall. I don't think we've got a kpd coming through.

Silvagni was good down back. He was marking the footy and kicking it beautifully.

His brother has filled out nicely, no reason TJ can’t too. But I agree, we need a genuine key defender and Silvagni has shown he can play the role.

 

[Apex36]

The only concern is the bad injury history for me. He was Carltons best defender in the games he played from what I saw and his athletic traits should do well in our system

Going by Carlton’s injury profile I think their conditioning programs are more of a concern than Jacks body.

 

[Apex36]

Yeah, I’m ambivalent. Would be very handy depth if coming cheaply but the suggested $700k doesn’t equate to that. Would prefer we persist with McInnes who is a similar size.

$700k is the equivalent of what $500k was a few years ago in the new CBA. The Blues will get band 3 compo for him at best with that salary. It’s really not a huge outlay and will likely barely be the average player salary by the end of his deal.

 

[legendstatus]

If there is any substance to the Rowel rumours, it's good to see the club is targeting midfield 'beasts' to replace Mitchell and help the Daicos bros!

100% true, I PM a poster who was interested in the info I had at the time. Pies & Dogs were the two he was tossing up, his mum a Blues supporter wasn’t happy that they didn’t approach him. By the way his mum (LR) pulls all the strings. I’ll leave it at that.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Alex Davies can play.

 

[sr36]

His brother has filled out nicely, no reason TJ can’t too. But I agree, we need a genuine key defender and Silvagni has shown he can play the role.

CJ has a pretty skinny core, gets pushed aside pretty easily - all the Sudanese players do really - it's the awesome athleticism and ability to come over the top that enables Andrew and Aliir to play as talls.

 

[frizzle]

Jeez the carryon over a slow, injury prone and undersized KPD who’s had one good season out of ten is a bit much! Is it due to the fascination around list management? Or the fact he’s currently a Carlton footballer?

Silvagni certainly doesn’t scream a great fit at Collingwood to me and perhaps even a questionable allocation of resources given Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes and TJ are all contracted for at least 2026. It feels a bit like the Doedee move by Brisbane to me.

Yeah his speed is a definite concern for me.

 

[satty]

Cochrane looks like he will be a good 3rd tall defender with elite rebounding and decent intercept marking ability. Doesn’t come across as someone you would send to play one on one against a fwd.

It will be interesting to see just how much size he puts on before the next pre season.

 

[satty]

Jeez the carryon over a slow, injury prone and undersized KPD who’s had one good season out of ten is a bit much! Is it due to the fascination around list management? Or the fact he’s currently a Carlton footballer?

Silvagni certainly doesn’t scream a great fit at Collingwood to me and perhaps even a questionable allocation of resources given Ryan, Cochrane, McInnes and TJ are all contracted for at least 2026. It feels a bit like the Doedee move by Brisbane to me.

None of the players you mentioned are ready to step in and play on key fwds next season.
They either lack the experience or the physical strength to be able to match up on the second or third talls.

Ryan and Tj are at best medium sized defenders, Mcinness is unproven, cochrane lacks size at the moment.

This defence will be a premiership quality defence for few more years, jsos being there ensures there won’t be a weak spot in the defense.

I think Tj will get traded, there is just no room for him in this defense . Ryan and parker are ahead of him on the depth chart.

 

[Scodog10]

Silvagni is miles better than those players, only 2 of whom can actually play key back

Silvagni is undersized as a KPD as well like Howe, but without the athleticism so fits in that NQR hybrid defender category.

None of the 4 players listed are guaranteed to make it, and if we’re talking key defence I don’t really know why Ryan is even in the conversation. TJ, maybe given his long arms could play taller, but Ryan, nah.

I’ve never minded JSOS, he has reasonably good hands and he was having somewhat of a breakout year in defence this year. As a third tall I think he’d work well for us assuming Howe pulls stumps this year. Probs a bit OTT comparing him to a bloke coming off multiple knee recos, and we all know how bad Carlton’s high performance team are. I’d back Wade and co to get him right.

We aren’t talking pure key defence. It’s that Mihocek/ West size that’s undersized in a key role and all of them fit into that category.

The comparison with Doedee was about his FA status and playing style (both slow undersized KPD’s) nothing to do with his knees.

Do any of these players have Silvagni’s aerial game?

The closest are probably Ryan and TJ are probably the two furthest from being key position players atm.

I’m not sure 4 players, 3 of which are in our bottom ten and who’ve played a total of 5 games in our defence are going to dictate how we build our best 23 next season.

We don’t know yet, but how good is Silvagni’s aerial game really? It’s definitely not to the standard of Howe’s.

Ultimately I’m not anti a move on Silvagni what I am anti is the carryon like he’s Bruce bloody Doull and it just screams Levi Greenwood to me where a guy cashed in on a career year. Before we all get hysterical I’m not referencing you three with those comments rather the collective who only a week ago barely registered Silvagni as an option and here we are…