List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

23

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[marklovesbeer]

Lever wanting some tips on how to grow a decent Mustache from Finbar. Pinky there for comedy relief

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

sam flanders to st kilda

pretty much done

Good player when going, but not really the we need, for mine.

 

[The Nostradamus]

The only thing I like about saints going after all these players is that it should make windhager more gettable

Cam Mackenzie tho I can’t see hawks letting go

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Why? It's not like we need volume of young kids, I would rather we move up and get a better pick than multiple lower picks.

How do the higher rated players in area of need this year compare to last?

 

[Heaps of fun]

Forgot Saints got stiffed on McKenzie. Up there with Dees missing Andrew in the three drafts between Dogs getting Jamarra in '20 and Dons getting Kako in '24. What a shit show this league is.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Maybe it was our failsafe? We always knew we could be a good chance to trade back into the first round at pick we would have roughly had via ladder position anyhow with two second rounders? Plus now we have a KPP we valued around pick 12 with a years worth of development and two games of experience.

I don't we're that smart based on our trading history.
But you'd hope they would have thought about the GC or Lions needing extra points with academy kids like Uwland, so we could potentially trade up with two R2's into R1 for a position those talls might be in.

I think we likely would've tried to trade back in the order from 4(3), unless of course we wanted a Josh Lindsay or Duff Man who get overlooked at WCE 1/2 or Tigers 3.
Whether any teams would have actually wanted to trade up is doubtful imo.
You'd have to have a team like * absolutely wanting someone like Willem if they are not picked by WCE or Tigers.
It doesn't appear like there's much appetite from teams to trade up who are in the first round.
But to be fair a bunch of them have multiple R1 picks, so not much real benefit to them unless they want a certain player.

 

[GS WARRIORS]

Forgot Saints got stiffed on McKenzie. Up there with Dees missing Andrew in the three drafts between Dogs getting Jamarra in '20 and Dons getting Kako in '24. What a shit show this league is.

Plus Sanders and us.

 

[danj]

Continuing the tradition of getting on the board and then having a relative recruited?

Andrew Swallow - David
Anthony Stevens - River
Glenn Archer - Jackson

Shame Ben Buckley and the Brayshaws couldn't pitch in....

Reckon they’ve done enough ️

 

[My Left Foote]

reading reports we are looking at trading up in the draft by giving suns 2 lower picks, if this happens it further makes the actions of last draft shiten housen

Why? We traded out our F1 last year to get the player we wanted and we’re looking to trade up this year to, hopefully, get the player we want. I suspect we did last years trade knowing full there’d be an opportunity to trade back in the first round this year.

People bemoan the fact that we always go best available with our first round picks but if we’ve used our F1 to draft Whitlock, position of need, and use the pick we received to trade back into the first round and potentially fill another position of need why is that a bad thing?

 

[Heaps of fun]

Plus Sanders and us.

I'd like to know a little more about what our Tassie academy was doing around that time. What amount of involvement did we even have with Sanders? The club has been pretty opaque about the NGA academies and it's a bit telling that apart from Sanders no other prospect has come close to being drafted lately.

 

[pupstar]

Why? We traded out our F1 last year to get the player we wanted and we’re looking to trade up this year to, hopefully, get the player we want. I suspect we did last years trade knowing full there’d be an opportunity to trade back in the first round this year.

People bemoan the fact that we always go best available with our first round picks but if we’ve used our F1 to draft Whitlock, position of need, and use the pick we received to trade back into the first round and potentially fill another position of need why is that a bad thing?

Very good Foote. People are making way to much out of it. Good decision in my view as well. Unpopular take but I definitely don't have to many issues with it especially if we can trade back into the 1st round which would have been our long term plan.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Why? We traded out our F1 last year to get the player we wanted and we’re looking to trade up this year to, hopefully, get the player we want. I suspect we did last years trade knowing full there’d be an opportunity to trade back in the first round this year.

People bemoan the fact that we always go best available with our first round picks but if we’ve used our F1 to draft Whitlock, position of need, and use the pick we received to trade back into the first round and potentially fill another position of need why is that a bad thing?

I guess the point is we wouldn't have had to use our own R2 this year to trade up if we just kept pick 3.
If we trade up, we won't have a R2 unless we are able to upgrade 39 using Phillips/Scott/Fisher potential trades.
I suspect we trade up more for GC 10-12 (depending on finals exit) rather than 6 based on the points gain.
But there could be more to it with a future picks involved, so wait and see.
But I don't really have an issue with us trading up to guarantee we get one of the top 12 kids as we're more likely to get a defender like Taylor or kpf there, then use whatever later picks we have left after trades to target some role players late.

 

[krakouers]

Is there an option of using this to our advantage for GWS with futures:

GREATER Western Sydney could be forced to delist and then re-rookie a senior-listed player as it faces a list squeeze.

The Giants have 35 senior-listed players contracted for 2026, and under AFL rules clubs have to use at least three spots at the draft via taking new players or upgrading rookies to ensure regular list turnover.

The maximum senior list spots a club can have is 38, meaning if the Giants looked to add any others through the trade and free agency period – and none of their contracted players left – they could be forced to delist and then re-select someone.


https://www.afl.com.au/news/1403943

 

[Liam Boy]

• Darcy Wilson: Saints would have to do a Geelong and buy him a Cotton on Store or Farm as they have no cap space left.
• Noah Answerth: Don't really know much about him tbh
• Zac Bailey : No chance in hell
• Josh Weddle : BFNAAK? Best 22 at Hawthorn, would be crazy to take a gamble on us.
• Jack Whitlock : Most likely, as I'm sure he'd be more than open to returning to Vic to play with his brother, and because F*** Port.
• Jordan Croft. : Father Son, unlikely.

Wilson is Mick Nolan's great nephew and probably BFNAAK. Might help

 

[The Talent Scout]

As someone said in a previous post here that Saints are essentially putting out offers, when if they get a yes from one or two they’ll withdraw the rest, we should be doing the same - especially since a yes for Saints means they probably entertain an offer for players.

Just my opinion but we should be doing it with these players:
Windhager, Wilson, Flanders, Starcevich, Budarick, Davies, Butts, Lever (yes just my opinion, ya’ll can hate me for it haha) and Wilkie (so Saints up his contract most likely). I’m probably forgetting a couple since I wrote this in a rush. Even players like Whitlock from Port.

Draft picks are great and can work out, but we have our young core group so we need players for the now and that can serve into the future (like the first three listed). Going for GC’s pick 6 is a big, big mistake imo.

Everybody's aloud their opinion ShinboneSpirit, a couple of supposed players that are being bandied about is kinda, well sort of, crazy. For one, Darcy Wilson is going nowhere you'd think, Jack Whitlock, at the moment, will stay. A defensive midfielder and an experienced defender make sense in the trade & free agency period for us. Your opinion on some players there, is quite interesting, is Wilkie really going to leave or is he just driving up his worth, I certainly don't hate the idea of Jake Lever, fresh start, an experienced defender and backs himself + he had a down year for the Dees but some are saying he's cooked, poppycock.

People want our backline to magically get better but want to either pick players who have no intention to come to our club or aren't experienced enough to actually help & guide us. Windhager if he really does want to leave would be a welcome addition, a very good player, Flanders would be a good pickup but is interested in other offers, so where he goes will be another interesting watch, possibly to , dare I say it, St Kilda. Going for pick 6 is not the problem, getting it, is the jewel, and if we do get it, one thing is for certain, we've identified a player we really want, if we've done that, then I say do it!

 

[koshari]

Why? It's not like we need volume of young kids, I would rather we move up and get a better pick than multiple lower picks.

we had the 3rd best pick!

 

[koshari]

ppppfffft, no bread mcenkie!

 

[JGreezy]

Some of these saints rumours would be favours to managers to drive up price.

 

[King Corey]

Why? We traded out our F1 last year to get the player we wanted and we’re looking to trade up this year to, hopefully, get the player we want. I suspect we did last years trade knowing full there’d be an opportunity to trade back in the first round this year.

People bemoan the fact that we always go best available with our first round picks but if we’ve used our F1 to draft Whitlock, position of need, and use the pick we received to trade back into the first round and potentially fill another position of need why is that a bad thing?

Yeh especially as we'll probably do minimum 3 picks, so a top 10 + something around 40 + late pick is decent.

Net result over 2 years of FOS, Matlock and R1 2025 kid is a good recovery.

 

[Lomas]

Everybody's aloud their opinion ShinboneSpirit, a couple of supposed players that are being bandied about is kinda, well sort of, crazy. For one, Darcy Wilson is going nowhere you'd think, Jack Whitlock, at the moment, will stay. A defensive midfielder and an experienced defender make sense in the trade & free agency period for us. Your opinion on some players there, is quite interesting, is Wilkie really going to leave or is he just driving up his worth, I certainly don't hate the idea of Jake Lever, fresh start, an experienced defender and backs himself + he had a down year for the Dees but some are saying he's cooked, poppycock.

People want our backline to magically get better but want to either pick players who have no intention to come to our club or aren't experienced enough to actually help & guide us. Windhager if he really does want to leave would be a welcome addition, a very good player, Flanders would be a good pickup but is interested in other offers, so where he goes will be another interesting watch, possibly to , dare I say it, St Kilda. Going for pick 6 is not the problem, getting it, is the jewel, and if we do get it, one thing is for certain, we've identified a player we really want, if we've done that, then I say do it!

Some people’s opinions are certainly louder than others.

 

[jay317]

Saints are the Roos of the 2010s it seems. Throw cash at anyone and everyone.

 

[perplexed]

Why? We traded out our F1 last year to get the player we wanted and we’re looking to trade up this year to, hopefully, get the player we want. I suspect we did last years trade knowing full there’d be an opportunity to trade back in the first round this year.

People bemoan the fact that we always go best available with our first round picks but if we’ve used our F1 to draft Whitlock, position of need, and use the pick we received to trade back into the first round and potentially fill another position of need why is that a bad thing?

Yes, when you look at any of our trades in isolation you can justify them. But there is a breathtaking lack of strategy behind our list management.

Say we do trade up and swap our two second rounders and our F2 for pick 6. That looks like a goodish deal if there is a player we really want available there. However, lets add it to a few trades of our previous trades and see how it goes. Let's add up the Daniel and Whitlock trades plus that one.

Once Whitlock cancels out the original second rounder we traded away, I have it as Pick 3 + 21 + F2 for Daniel + Pick 6. Does that look good to you? We just keep shooting ourselves in the foot.

 

[Danni_Benson]

Trembath for Archer May while you're at it?

Stop! Brady might read this!

 

[archereleven]

I might be on my own here but I would go in the opposite direction with the father son. Make the threshold 50 games and if players nominate they come to the club for a token pick. I love the romance of it.I love that the Daicos boys play for the Pies and and Darcy the dogs.
Its the only part of the draft where every club (excluding gws and Gold Coast at the moment) have an exact equal chance of getting a star.
NGA should be run by the afl and all players available in the draft. The lions and swans getting so many NGAs and father sons is skewing the debate when they should be treated separately imo.

I don't give a rats arse about father sons.

Get all the kinks out of the draft and start being a professional organisation.

The best kid in the land should go to the worst team in the competition. End of.

 

[perplexed]

Yeh especially as we'll probably do minimum 3 picks, so a top 10 + something around 40 + late pick is decent.

Net result over 2 years of FOS, Matlock and R1 2025 kid is a good recovery.

Not really. We would have got that and more without making a single trade.