List Mgmt. 2025 Trade & List Management Thread

[giantroo]

Official FA Moves/Trades​

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Player/Picks	Original Team	Receiving Team​	FA /Trade?
Tom De Koning	Carlton	St Kilda	RFA
Jack Silvagni	Carlton	St Kilda	UFA
Jacob Wehr	GWS	Port Adelaide	UFA
Sam Draper	Essendon	Brisbane	UFA
Oscar Allen	West Coast	Brisbane	RFA
Charlie Spargo	Melbourne	North Melbourne	UFA

Buku Khamis - requests a trade to Carlton
Wade Derksen - requests a trade to Melbourne
Liam Ryan

31

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

- requests a trade to St Kilda
Leek Aleer - requests a trade to St Kilda
Campbell Chesser - requests a trade to Carlton
Will Brodie

23

Will Brodie

Age

27

Ht

190cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.0

5star

K

8.2

3star

HB

10.8

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

4.0

1star

HB

10.0

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

2star

CL

3.0

4star

D

13.8

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

5.4

5star

CL

2.8

5star

- requests a trade to Port Adelaide
Liam Reidy - requests a trade to Carlton
Sam Flanders - has requested a trade/explore options

 

[The Filth Wizard]

I wonder if we're one of the Vic clubs that have enquired about Oli Florent. While not as hard edged as Maynard, we're clearly looking at players in that small to mid height defender role.

 

[shinboner magic]

I wonder if we're one of the Vic clubs that have enquired about Oli Florent. While not as hard edged as Maynard, we're clearly looking at players in that small to mid height defender role.

And another rebounder / will that be 4 off seasons in a row we’d be bringing in from another club.
Tucker
Fisher
Daniel
Florent ???

 

[The Nostradamus]

I wonder if we're one of the Vic clubs that have enquired about Oli Florent. While not as hard edged as Maynard, we're clearly looking at players in that small to mid height defender role.

Not against florent as long as cheap

apparently every vic club is in for bergman

Other hbf options Judd McVee, budarick and Josh Sinn all out of contract

 

[Passmore]

I wonder if we're one of the Vic clubs that have enquired about Oli Florent. While not as hard edged as Maynard, we're clearly looking at players in that small to mid height defender role.

There were links pre draft from memory. What that means 10 years later?

 

[Devil Fish]

5 picks before Logan Morris went……wonder if we even knew he existed.

We did have our eye on Konstanty in his time at Syd though.

Florent will be in a NM jumper - a struggling top end pick - Rawlings will be drooling

 

[R00StaR]

This just highlights that the AFL salary cap doesn't work. Whether it's because teams can easily pay players outside of it or if it's just not effective as a tool for parity.

Regardless, its supposed to be something that helps teams like North Melbourne. If Matt Rowell is moving to Victoria then he should have limited options because of the salary cap. It should be a choice between $600k from top clubs or $1.2M from clubs like North.

That creates a situation where he either comes to North, or a club like Geelong has to off load good players to a club like North to get Rowell in.

Instead, we offer $1.2M and top clubs can match it.

They need to get rid of the ability to restructure contracts. They need to get rid of this silly front and back loading. It should only be able to vary like 5% per year.

But, ultimately, if you have 38 players on your list and 30 of them take only $50k less then you can add another two players worth $750k each. And a popular and successful club can easily get players and extra $50k of benefits per year outside the cap without being caught.

We want to see more quality players going to the bottom clubs to even out the comp, so perhaps something like:

200k extra in the cap for every year in a row you finish bottom 4 with a max of 1m extra. 200k off each time you make the 8 until back to even.

 

[hilly]

5 picks before Logan Morris went……wonder if we even knew he existed.

We did have our eye on Konstanty in his time at Syd though.

Florent will be in a NM jumper - a struggling top end pick - Rawlings will be drooling

Also 183cm and not quick..

 

[chubbspeterson]

Add it to the list of eff ups

Reckon we could’ve had may and banch
Dogs were the threat for banch but wanted Sellwood more

Doubt it Nostra. Giantroo said Blues were interested in Zac and you'd think WCE would've taken him over Newton.

 

[SWMD]

From today's line up.

B: Logue, Pink, Comben
HB: McDonald, Daniel, O’Sullivan
C: Simpkin, LDU, Stephens
HF: McKercher, Larkey, Powell
F: Zurhaar, Darling, Curtis
Foll: Xerri, Wardlaw, Sheezel
Inter: Fisher, Hardeman, Parker, Konstanty, Hansen Jr
 
2-4 year outlook 'Locks':
B: *****, M.Whitlock, Archer
HB: Hardeman, Comben, O'Sullivan
C: McKercher, LDU (26), *****
HF: Duursma, Larkey (27), Curtis
F: Zurhaar (27), *****, *****
Foll: Xerri (26), Wardlaw, Sheezel
Inter: Powell, *****,*****,*****

***** =
B: Logue/Pink (27), Goater.
M: Simpkin (27), Phillips, Stephens, RHJ, Urquart
F: W.Dawson, B.George, Konstanty, Banch,


Logue/Pink questions remain.
Injury risk: Goater, B.George, Archer. Comben
No proven quick small forward.
Need more KP talent.
Simpkin, Powell, Stephens - 'as a trio' lack pace, creativity, point of difference.


List management can now move away from the Fishers, Tuckers, Stephens "just give us someone who resembles an AFL player", to a more targeted and measured approach.
Much like Dees packaging up multiple picks to get access to top ten talent.

Quickest return and impact would be a gun small fwd.

For all of the Caddy and Morris hype, we have Duursma, similar build, but 'potentially' higher ceiling than both.

 

[ToxicMegaPunts]

We want to see more quality players going to the bottom clubs to even out the comp, so perhaps something like:

200k extra in the cap for every year in a row you finish bottom 4 with a max of 1m extra. 200k off each time you make the 8 until back to even.

Don't need anything that convoluted, just stop forcing clubs to spend a minimum % of the total salary cap on player payments.

You have a cap floor, say 90% of total team cap.
If a given team in a given year spends less than the floor, then they pay the remainder to the AFLPA, who then distribute it back to all players across the league.
That way players are not getting underpaid, and perpetual bottom 4 teams are not offering inflated contracts to players just to reach the cap floor.

 

[hoffseason gains 01]

Florent would be a good pick up for not much. Good age, can play a lot of roles, solid B- player. A better Tucker.

 

[zoomba23]

From today's line up.

B: Logue, Pink, Comben
HB: McDonald, Daniel, O’Sullivan
C: Simpkin, LDU, Stephens
HF: McKercher, Larkey, Powell
F: Zurhaar, Darling, Curtis
Foll: Xerri, Wardlaw, Sheezel
Inter: Fisher, Hardeman, Parker, Konstanty, Hansen Jr
 
2-4 year outlook 'Locks':
B: *****, M.Whitlock, Archer
HB: Hardeman, Comben, O'Sullivan
C: McKercher, LDU (26), *****
HF: Duursma, Larkey (27), Curtis
F: Zurhaar (27), *****, *****
Foll: Xerri (26), Wardlaw, Sheezel
Inter: Powell, *****,*****,*****

***** =
B: Logue/Pink (27), Trembath, Goater.
M: Simpkin (27), Phillips, Stephens, RHJ, Urquart
F: W.Dawson, B.George, Konstanty, Banch,


Logue/Pink questions remain.
Injury risk: Goater, B.George, Archer. Comben
No proven quick small forward.
Need more KP talent.
Simpkin, Powell, Stephens - 'as a trio' lack pace, creativity, point of difference.


List management can now move away from the Fishers, Tuckers, Stephens "just give us someone who resembles an AFL player", to a more targeted and measured approach.
Much like Dees packaging up multiple picks to get access to top ten talent.

Quickest return and impact would be a gun small fwd.

For all of the Caddy and Morris hype, we have Duursma, similar build, but 'potentially' higher ceiling than both.

Duursma is not a key forward, bro. Claiming otherwise is cope

 

[DunderHead]

Florent would be a good pick up for not much. Good age, can play a lot of roles, solid B- player. A better Tucker.

I like Florent I would think he’d cost a second rounder.

Good runner and neat user. Am I crazy or was he mates with Jy Simpkin?

 

[Chip Scab1]

Duursma is not a key forward, bro. Claiming otherwise is cope

Duursma should end up utility of the grandest order. Terrifically dangerous young forward who has good skills, makes good decisions and is a really good mark with frequent flyer miles attached.

By Rd1 next year I expect him to be on wing rolling forward or back as required!

 

[Chip Scab1]

I like Florent I would think he’d cost a second rounder.

Good runner and neat user. Am I crazy or was he mates with Jy Simpkin?

Florent by name, fraudulent by nature.

Massive impostor(ous) Fraud. I wouldn't want that soft scrubber for free.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I like Florent I would think he’d cost a second rounder.

Good runner and neat user. Am I crazy or was he mates with Jy Simpkin?

Good mates with dyl also

 

[Chip Scab1]

Good mates with dyl also
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Neck Blakey can enjoy being a 0-time premiership player for the rest of life.

 

[DunderHead]

Good mates with dyl also
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I didn’t realise he was playing VFL. Maybe he would go cheaper.

Maybe swap for Phillips?

 

[The Nostradamus]

I didn’t realise he was playing VFL. Maybe he would go cheaper.

Maybe swap for Phillips?

Nah another option for us to trade Bailey Scott to

Scott for florent straight swap

 

[SWMD]

Duursma is not a key forward, bro. Claiming otherwise is cope

I didn't claim he was.

Look at the squad, I listed him as HFF.

The comparison though was around a goal kicking fwd, can mark, with potential. Duursma's poise/class might’ve been the reason they took him over Caddy.

With Larkey being 27, W.Dawson a great unknown, the list needs to bring in another high potential KPF.

 

[DocSholl]

I like Florent I would think he’d cost a second rounder.

Good runner and neat user. Am I crazy or was he mates with Jy Simpkin?

I think the connection is we were going to take whichever one Sydney didn't

 

[ferball]

I like Florent I would think he’d cost a second rounder.

Good runner and neat user. Am I crazy or was he mates with Jy Simpkin?

Went one pick before him in the draft.

 

[Dinkers]

There were links pre draft from memory. What that means 10 years later?

Yeah apparently we had chatted to the Swans and it was the other of who they chose. And ten years later = nothin.

For the masses, yesterday made it 3.5 wins from our last six games. So one could now suggest we will find life a tad easier chatting to decent FA's.

The below should be the games we really target. Win 3 of that lot and we finish with 7.5 wins and we should be happy with our work.

Melbourne
Sydney
StKilda
Richmond
Adelaide ( H) ( huge scalp if we pulled it off)

 

[Ura]

Dawson playing back again this week. Hard to know where he lands. KPF to develop is what we really need now.
We have a core of players that will take us to a premiership we need more role players and depth.
The great clubs in the AFL are littered with players that fill out roles but aren’t stars.

 

[jay317]

Our VFLW and AFLW team are premiers. Our VFL team is in the 8. And we're now showing signs of life in the AFL. All that talk about stability may actually be producing. May not be this year, but might start to get easier turning some heads.