Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 4 (cont in pt 5)

[Financialpanther]

What can i do but sit back in Straya and watch the shitshow?

Yep - do what we all do, watch Rome burn

 

[Crankyhawk]

What are you doing about it?


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What any Australian can do. Eating popcorn.

 

[Financialpanther]

What any Australian can do. Eating popcorn.

Can only imagine how giddy Russian and Chinese pundits would be getting from watching this carnage play out

 

[shniko11]

Can only imagine how giddy Russian and Chinese pundits would be getting from watching this carnage play out

Sitting back and laughing their hearts out unfortunately.

 

[Financialpanther]

Sitting back and laughing their hearts out unfortunately.

What I can’t quite understand is the mantra of making America great again (or even keep America great). It’s simply not going to happen.

 

[Crankyhawk]

What I can’t quite understand is the mantra of making America great again (or even keep America great). It’s simply not going to happen.

Make America Great Entertainment

 

[Financialpanther]

Make America Great Entertainment

The best dumpster fire television since “the apprentice”

 

[GreyCrow]

What I can’t quite understand is the mantra of making America great again (or even keep America great). It’s simply not going to happen.

Its like the war on drugs etc . How is it determined that America is great and why dont you try a little bit harder and make it greater

 

[Ripper]

Now it is reported that it might have been illegally gathered data, or gathered for one purpose and used for another:

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analytica-facebook-influence-us-election

The evidence Wylie supplied to UK and US authorities includes a letter from Facebook’s own lawyers sent to him in August 2016, asking him to destroy any data he held that had been collected by GSR, the company set up by Kogan to harvest the profiles.

That legal letter was sent several months after the Guardianfirst reported the breach and days before it was officially announced that Bannon was taking over as campaign manager for Trump and bringing Cambridge Analytica with him.

“Because this data was obtained and used without permission, and because GSR was not authorised to share or sell it to you, it cannot be used legitimately in the future and must be deleted immediately,” the letter said.

Facebook did not pursue a response when the letter initially went unanswered for weeks because Wylie was travelling, nor did it follow up with forensic checks on his computers or storage, he said.

“That to me was the most astonishing thing. They waited two years and did absolutely nothing to check that the data was deleted. All they asked me to do was tick a box on a form and post it back.”

It seems they are projecting. Doesn't facebook and Google do exactly the same thing? They were all in for Hillary last election.
When you delete a facebook account they keep all the data.

No data from GSR was used by Cambridge Analytica as part of the services it provided to the Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign," the statement said.

 

[Chief]

It seems they are projecting. Doesn't facebook and Google do exactly the same thing? They were all in for Hillary last election.
When you delete a facebook account they keep all the data.

How is that the same?


Wylie, a Canadian data analytics expert who worked with Cambridge Analytica and Kogan to devise and implement the scheme, showed a dossier of evidence about the data misuse to the Observer which appears to raise questions about their testimony. He has passed it to the National Crime Agency’s cybercrime unit and the Information Commissioner’s Office. It includes emails, invoices, contracts and bank transfers that reveal more than 50 million profiles – mostly belonging to registered US voters – were harvested from the site in one of the largest-ever breaches of Facebook data.


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[yebiga]

In an amazing new find - the lost pages of Josephus - it reveals that Judas Iscariot who betrayed Jesus may have been Russian!
Apparently, Judas Iscariot was working undercover - his real name was an anagram - Djusa Tsaroici
Theresa May is expected to reveal the full details of this long history of Russian treachery in the House on Monday

 

[Ripper]

How is that the same?


Wylie, a Canadian data analytics expert who worked with Cambridge Analytica and Kogan to devise and implement the scheme, showed a dossier of evidence about the data misuse to the Observer which appears to raise questions about their testimony. He has passed it to the National Crime Agency’s cybercrime unit and the Information Commissioner’s Office. It includes emails, invoices, contracts and bank transfers that reveal more than 50 million profiles – mostly belonging to registered US voters – were harvested from the site in one of the largest-ever breaches of Facebook data.


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Seems if you delve deeper it is Facebook in the gun. The Trump connection seems to be click bait. It will develop I'm sure.

At the time of the data breach, Wylie was a Cambridge Analytica employee, but Facebook described him as working for Eunoia Technologies, a firm he set up on his own after leaving his former employer in late 2014.

Paul-Olivier Dehaye, a data protection specialist, who spearheaded the investigative efforts into the tech giant, said: “Facebook has denied and denied and denied this. It has misled MPs and congressional investigators and it’s failed in its duties to respect the law.

“It has a legal obligation to inform regulators and individuals about this data breach, and it hasn’t. It’s failed time and time again to be open and transparent.”

A majority of American states have laws requiring notification in some cases of data breach, including California, where Facebook is based.

Facebook denies that the harvesting of tens of millions of profiles by GSR and Cambridge Analytica was a data breach. It said in a statement that Kogan “gained access to this information in a legitimate way and through the proper channels” but “did not subsequently abide by our rules” because he passed the information on to third parties.

 

[Ripper]

Interesting!

Suspending Cambridge Analytica and SCL Group from Facebook
By Paul Grewal, VP & Deputy General Counsel

Update on March 17, 2018, 9:50 AM: The claim that this is a data breach is completely false. Aleksandr Kogan requested and gained access to information from users who chose to sign up to his app, and everyone involved gave their consent. People knowingly provided their information, no systems were infiltrated, and no passwords or sensitive pieces of information were stolen or hacked.

 

[Bennett.]

How can you be so definitive?

Ummm because nothing has been found in over a year of proctogical examination

 

[Bennett.]

Lol!


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Strong response

 

[Chief]

Ummm because nothing has been found in over a year of proctogical examination

You can’t know. You look silly claiming you can.

 

[Chief]

Interesting!

Yes - that’s what the article said. Did you read it?

The data was sucked up and used against terms. Is that moral? Good? Something you’d want to happen with your information?

Of course Facebook looks bad in this.

Doesn’t change the claims about what happened afterwards.

 

[Satan]

Wont be buying from Kogan , mixed up with Trump and his associates . Dont trust my details not being leaked.

 

[Financialpanther]

Ummm because nothing has been found in over a year of proctogical examination

Strong response

 

[Crankyhawk]

Ummm because nothing has been found in over a year of proctogical examination

How long was the examination for the Essendon drug scandal? Point being these investigations take time. However, if/ when it comes out that they can't find anything then gloat away.

 

[Seeds]

Ummm because nothing has been found in over a year of proctogical examination

examine what? the whole thing involves someone spilling on a meeting they attended. The fact no one has spilled yet (that we know of) doesnt mean it didnt happen.

 

[Lebbo73]

Trump ranting on twitter about the corruption in the FBI calling them sanctimonious and all does Trump no favours whatsoever None.

But Brennan's attack back and especially Shumer's statement on "don't take on the intel agencies or they have six ways to Sunday to get back at you" was just as ridiculous Imo.

McCabe was fired at the recommendation of the I.G and OPR he deserved what he got as did Comey.But my point is even though this one wasn't on Trump he goes out on an all out attack and the Dems now siding with the FBI hitting back with don't take on the FBI Wow.

This is what Democracy in the US has come to. There are no rules its anything goes, we are all getting fooled by all the sideshows and bullshit it's become a joke.

And people here want an ICAC in Australia. ASIO is bad enough and they can get down and dirty with the best of them. Look what they did in Tassie!
There will be no collusion proven against Trump and the CIA/FBI will back down against Trump in the medium term. If not, Trump will be assassinated if he’s truly serious about bringing the CIA and FBI into line!

 

[Ripper]

Yes - that’s what the article said. Did you read it?

The data was sucked up and used against terms. Is that moral? Good? Something you’d want to happen with your information?

Of course Facebook looks bad in this.

Doesn’t change the claims about what happened afterwards.

That was the last update after the article was written.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Ummm because nothing has been found in over a year of proctogical examination

Your definition of nothing seems different to mine.

There have been multiple people charged, several have already taken plea deals and admitted guilt.

It may well be that trump is innocent and done nothing wrong, but isn't it worth investigating considering how much wrongdoing has already been found ?

 

[Gough]

Ummm because nothing has been found in over a year of proctogical examination

Looking at Trump's Twitter feed, I'm not sure he shares your confidence.