Player Watch #5: Caleb Daniel

[Dinkers]

I'd play him on - wee watson the wizard watson watto watson!

Daniel could use his height to advantage and do him in the air!!
Or Banch for his one and only game, oh boy those 2 could tag team Watto wee Watson the Wiz.

 

[Zondor]

He's always been a defensive liability - even at the Dogs. He wasn't any taller, any stronger or faster there - yet he was an AA and had multiple top 4 B&F finishes in a gun side.

What stares me in the face is his impact in transition and his willingness to take it on.

His impact in transition? Is it really moving the needle? Like how many goals do we score as a result of his “transition” from the defensive half? The truth is staring you in the face. :stern look

 

[Chip Scab1]

I'd play him on - wee watson the wizard watson watto watson!

Daniel could use his height to advantage and do him in the air!!
Or Banch for his one and only game, oh boy those 2 could tag team Watto wee Watson the Wiz.

Daniel to play on Copperfield.

It needs to be arranged, and forward 50 to be cleared out so we can get the full experience.

 

[KiwiRoo]

Thought he was pretty good too. Been a good pick up . No coincidence that our transition from the back has been much improved this year and he's been a big part of that

 

[Chip Scab1]

Thought he was pretty good too. Been a good pick up . No coincidence that our transition from the back has been much improved this year and he's been a big part of that

I am gonna start calling him Danny Morrison as looks like good player but really isn't.

I can't recall him being a key to any form of transition gains we took! Maybe I'm fubar, I dunno. Hardeman is already the better player to my eye, again, I could be wrong.

 

[ansonholt]

Copped a lot of flak this year but his last month has been solid to good or very good.

 

[speedy]

Thought he was pretty good too. Been a good pick up . No coincidence that our transition from the back has been much improved this year and he's been a big part of that

Daniel was brought in to release sheez and Kerch further up the field apparently.

No coincidence that our best form has been with Kerch moving back again along with improved play from Hardeman & FOS off half back.

Sheez spent a few games back also to get some drive out of defence.

 

[speedy]

Daniel not ****ing up 15m crab kicks is now his pass mark.

 

[KiwiRoo]

I am gonna start calling him Danny Morrison as looks like good player but really isn't.

I can't recall him being a key to any form of transition gains we took! Maybe I'm fubar, I dunno. Hardeman is already the better player to my eye, again, I could be wrong.

would have been a good player if he got a few LBW's in Aussie...Whitney..back knee half way up middle !!
so good player..shocking commentator !

anyway back to Daniel..just think he tidies up a lot of stuff down back, got good clean hands and makes good decisions. And i agree that Hardeman is going past him. Not a bad thing !

 

[KiwiRoo]

Daniel was brought in to release sheez and Kerch further up the field apparently.

No coincidence that our best form has been with Kerch moving back again along with improved play from Hardeman & FOS off half back.

Sheez spent a few games back also to get some drive out of defence.

so no coincidence that FOS and Hardeman are playing good footy down back...alongside Daniel ?

sum of the pieces argument from me. Our transition has been miles better this year and Daniel has been a good part of that

 

[TruRoo]

I'd play him on - wee watson the wizard watson watto watson!

Daniel could use his height to advantage and do him in the air!!
Or Banch for his one and only game, oh boy those 2 could tag team Watto wee Watson the Wiz.

Wizard would have a field day. Too fast.

Or alternatively he won’t be able to duck against a guy his height

 

[zoomba23]

What’s the story with Pick 25 and Daniel?

Did that have anything to do with Whitlock?

Cos he’s ok?

I heard someone say this cost is Pick 2 or something?

The cost is pick 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 or whatever it'll be, because at the end of it all, the balance sheet looked thusly:

In: Caleb Daniel

Out: future first

We did trade pick 25, but then on traded the future first to essentially get that pick back.

I've maintained that we didn't really need that future first anyway; the current crop has the necessary talent to break out of the cellar, and if they didn't manage that, adding a fifteenth first rounder in four years wouldn't change it. In principle though, it makes you wince

 

[7577969923]

So what does Daniel provide exactly?

This is a typical example of Daniel’s play, ball is marked at CHB Daniel runs behind to receive a 2m handball, travels 5m sideways (tacking 10 steps) and then kicks it 14.9m sideways to a teammate on the boundary. Or he kicks a 35m rainbow bomb down field to a pack.

The only thing he does well is gather loose balls in the D50 where he does have sure hands and generally finds a good option with a handball.

The rest of his disposals come from kick-ins with average results.

As mentioned ahove, our best transition out of defence is coming from Kerch, Hardeman and FOS. So what is Daniel there for? He’s just taking it out of the hands of our play makers.

I have been as frustrated as most (some are extremely obstinate) on this thread about Daniels. My point was that there seems to be less indecision and diabolical kicks over the past few weeks. I'm not saying he's great, just that he's been better than he was.

I have found myself thinking during the last few games that FOS, Kerch, and Hardeman could provide all the transition from defence that we need. I particularly love the way Hardeman can clear the back of the contest. The play yesterday where Sheez read that Hardeman's kick would carry the contest leading directly to a goal.

 

[koshari]

I have been as frustrated as most (some are extremely obstinate) on this thread about Daniels. My point was that there seems to be less indecision and diabolical kicks over the past few weeks. I'm not saying he's great, just that he's been better than he was.

I have found myself thinking during the last few games that FOS, Kerch, and Hardeman could provide all the transition from defence that we need. I particularly love the way Hardeman can clear the back of the contest. The play yesterday where Sheez read that Hardeman's kick would carry the contest leading directly to a goal.

No doubt he is tracking better now, was positively crabworthy early on.

 

[Uncle_Leo]

No doubt he is tracking better now, was positively crabworthy early on.

His first 5-6 weeks were diabolical. Should have been dropped

His last 4-5 weeks have been very very good

 

[zoomba23]

No doubt he is tracking better now, was positively crabworthy early on.

That's a smashing word

 

[Merlin007]

so no coincidence that FOS and Hardeman are playing good footy down back...alongside Daniel ?

sum of the pieces argument from me. Our transition has been miles better this year and Daniel has been a good part of that

this is the thing imo.

Comben's interview about the improvement in the backline is very telling - blokes now know the system and play to it, keeping the zone in tact as they handover opponents (on which point I would add that it's a whole of club thing - in the 2s against the Borough, Tomlinson got caught on the wing following his bloke, and when Port drove the ball long to full back, who took the intercept mark? Zane Duursma, dropping back from the wing where Tomlinson had stood the mark).

When the system was leaking, I think it was understandable that it appeared like Daniel was the problem, for two reasons - first, he's athletically not really a modern footballer, and so he was struggling to keep up with the play, and second because the disorganisation meant that his one weapon (organising transition by foot) was so much harder.

No surprise then that as the system improves, so does Daniel on both scores - gets caught out less often, and efficiently finds outlets from D50 by foot

 

[koshari]

That's a smashing word

i would prefer not to have required to use the term trust me but what else can you say?

 

[Horizons_00]

Caleb, Parker and Darling has all made a huge difference.

But its obvious it would. Every successful team goes out and gets experience surrounding their youth. Its a successful strategy that has been tried for decades.

 

[SpiderBurton22]

Remember when traded in Jed Anderson

17

Jed Anderson

Age

31

Ht

179cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

2.2

2star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

3.7

5star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.4

4star

for a 1st rounder.

 

[DuckYeah]

The rest of his disposals come from kick-ins with average results.

Its shared between him and mckercher

 

[DuckYeah]

Yes on current ladder positioning he cost us pick 3, the Bullies would be extremely happy about that. But I think they must have traded it to the Tigers - ouch! As that pick sits with them.
We traded pick 25 to the Bullies for Dinkers-Daniel.

So on draft night we couldn't believe Whitlock was still on the boards, so we traded our future F1 to the tigers for Whitlock and their future 2nd.

Some nut started this rubbish that Daniel cost us pick 3, he didn't at all. The 2 events are unrelated.

Sound logic.

People can say what they like about Daniel.. Personally I think the movement off half back is loads better with him in the team. Previous we’d give constant repeat entries so it didn’t matter if the player could defend or not so at least there is forward gains from Daniel.

 

[KiwiRoo]

this is the thing imo.

Comben's interview about the improvement in the backline is very telling - blokes now know the system and play to it, keeping the zone in tact as they handover opponents (on which point I would add that and it's a whole of club thing - in the 2s against the Borough, Tomlinson got caught on the wing following his bloke, and when Port drove the ball long to full back, who took the intercept mark? Zane Duursma, dropping back from the wing where Tomlinson had stood the mark).

When the system was leaking, I think it was understandable that it appeared like Daniel was the problem, for two reasons - first, he's athletically not really a modern footballer, and so he was struggling to keep up with the play, and second because the disorganisation meant that his one weapon (organising transition by foot) was so much harder.

No surprise then that as the system improves, so does Daniel does on both scores - gets caught out less often, and efficiently finds outlets form D50 by foot

Thats it.
He looks like they didn't quite get all the AusKick kids off the ground , but he's a one touch footballer who generally does the right things and makes other players look better around him

 

[Lomas]

Remember when traded in Jed Anderson for a 1st rounder.

God, please don’t. I can’t take more of that.

 

[shinboner magic]

Hasn’t been found out as a defender in the last few weeks when he should halve contests.
Kicking has been more on point as well.