Saw that and thought the same. Must be frustrating watching the game go past youI think Jack knows it too. His look on the bench yesterday was one of a bloke going through serious introspection.
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Saw that and thought the same. Must be frustrating watching the game go past youI think Jack knows it too. His look on the bench yesterday was one of a bloke going through serious introspection.
Saw that and thought the same. Must be frustrating watching the game go past you
I wouldn't go that far, but he needs to bring more to the table.
Over the course of his career his biggest issues have consistently been leg speed and endurance. The last couple of years he's also added kicking skills to the list of issues he has. The game isn't getting any slower nor Jack any younger. You don't magically keep your fitness base when you have soft tissue injuries to your legs either.
By the time he's healed from this injury, the third leg injury in a year, he's still going to be behind the eightball fitness wise, and he wouldn't have had any time or ability to work on his kicking. I think he's cooked tbh, for this year at the very least. Hard to see a future where he gets back to anywhere near his best.
Just don't know where we go from here. Absolute campaigner of a situation to have our captain be in, exacerbated by the fact I'm not entirely sure I trust him to make accurate calls considering his decisions regarding his fitness to play etc so far this year.
He needs a break to get himself physically right and mentally refreshed.
Not personally suggesting he should be dropped, but a lot of the chat around here the past few days has me racking my brains to think of a time when a captain has been dropped due to poor form - North Melbourne or another club.
Can anybody recall such times?
They are just back from a near 3 month break all the time in the world to get himself right.... got the knee back working not sure if any head work...
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It's his 12th year playing like a crazed maniac.Legs are shot
Body can’t do what the kids wants.
It’s sad but when you play the way he does it happens.
It's his 12th year playing like a crazed maniac.
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Not personally suggesting he should be dropped, but a lot of the chat around here the past few days has me racking my brains to think of a time when a captain has been dropped due to poor form - North Melbourne or another club.
Can anybody recall such times?
When do we think Ziebell hit the peak of his true potential?
My thoughts:
-2012 when he had 30+ and kicked 3 against Geelong (Rd 3) I thought we had a genuine A grader.
-2014 in the semi final against Geelong where he kicked those big last term goals.
-2018 he turned himself into a quality mid size forward.
-2019 the decline started
-2020 has been injured ravaged
I wonder how much those two broken legs screwed his development. I really hope he manages to reinvent himself and we don't remember him for a courageous hack out of the middle captain. I would just leave in the forward line for the rest of the season to help with our structure.
I'm on this too - when Larkey went out, Jack was the only one taking contested marks leading up on the wing, a critical phase of the game for Shaw's defensive game plan that relies on only going forward quickly when forward of centre; if Jack starts in the middle tomorrow night with Bonar at HFF, we're back to ground zero, because Wood isn't a great contested mark and therefore not a viable second tallHe's never hit his peak. The broken legs f’ed his athletic profile early on, but he's barely had an offseason without major surgery and now any gains are being negated by repeat lower leg injuries.
And if he's in he should absolutely be playing forward line primarily. Nothing wrong with him being in the midfield rotations, you need to spread them around and it will be good to keep him involved, but i'd prefer his strength in the air and defensive pressure forward, than his ballgetting (wasted by hack kicks to a disfunctional forward line) in the middle.
I'm on this too - when Larkey went out, Jack was the only one taking contested marks leading up on the wing, a critical phase of the game for Shaw's defensive game plan that relies on only going forward quickly when forward of centre; if Jack starts in the middle tomorrow night with Bonar at HFF, we're back to ground zero, because Wood isn't a great contested mark and therefore not a viable second tall
A tenner says Jack made the call.Who made this call?
Let's grind him right to the bitter f***ing end shall we?
Then that sits squarely on Rhyce.A tenner says Jack made the call.