Resource A comprehensive guide to all things (footy guernsey related)

[rabbitoh21]

rabbitoh21 , you may want to explain the difference between the Paddlepop lion and the Fiztroy lion, and what we are referring to when we say this terms.

Great idea, will add to the final section In case it wasn't extrapolated, I'm looking for contributions of things I may have missed or things that the FJ&GD community thinks would benefit from being included here, such as the two lions

 

[akkaps]

Another definition that some of the newer guys don't understand: the Fed Square jumper

 

[rabbitoh21]

Another definition that some of the newer guys don't understand: the Fed Square jumper

Ahh yes, was it ever worn? Or where could I find a relatively-permanent link?

 

[akkaps]

Ahh yes, was it ever worn? Or where could I find a relatively-permanent link?

It was a training jumper for St. Kilda last year. Never worn in a game though.

 

[Bryce_Jersey17]

Ahh yes, was it ever worn? Or where could I find a relatively-permanent link?

It was a training guernsey. I wish I got one when I could have.

 

[akkaps]

Front:

 

[Bryce_Jersey17]

Front:

And was worn with red numbers

 

[rabbitoh21]

Thanks, I'm gonna host any non-Mero images on my website since I should have a fairly long-term tenancy there haha

 

[rabbitoh21]

Updated the OP and the guernsey elements section, damn you 20 image rule.

 

[Greater Gattsby]

And was worn with red numbers

Which ruined it.

White with a black stroke would've done the job

 

[rabbitoh21]

Which ruined it.

White with a black stroke would've done the job

 

[Jack Stevens]

last year

2013 was two years ago. Last year was the stickman.

 

[Greater Gattsby]

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Yeah but the other way around.

White fill and black stroke

 

[rabbitoh21]

Yeah but the other way around.

White fill and black stroke

HAHA oops, brb

 

[rabbitoh21]

Updated to use synonymous(?) "wharf pylon" for the prison bar design, as used in a press release by PAFC

 

[Dylan8]

Added to the thread directory, under 'Terminology'.

 

[Jones2ByrneJones]

Added to the thread directory, under 'Terminology'.

You didn't actually link the post you goose. Also check my skills and quoting locked threads.

Terminology
The various nicknames and words associated with footy jumpers (such as design elements) which are used around the board can be found in this extensive guide to footy jumpers. (Thanks rabbitoh21)

 

[Dylan8]

Ergh thanks I did hyperlink it, then I un-hyperlinked it then I forgot to hyperlink it again.

Yeah.

 

[Jones2ByrneJones]

Don't worry, I screwed up to. My original quote winds up linking to this post from 2003, and I don't actually know what I did wrong
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/goto/post?id=1036129#post-1036129

 

[Mero]

So having seen posts from people with no words to describe what they are trying to say, I thought it relevant to have a Dictionary of terms specific to our Board; Footy Jumpers and Graphic Design.
I would like this to be a group discussion, so I am going to list a few, and ask for contributions.
Also feel free to offer words for inclusion without a description and I will endeavour to provide one.
Like the New Season jumper threads, the opening post will be updated with words I believe are relevant.
I reserve the right to amend your description if I feel it can be improved.

AFL:- (1) the Australian Football League, governing body of the sport of Australian Football. (2) The highest level of competition of Australian Football.

Crusader:- Red St.Kilda jumper which featured the club logo, worn as Home jumper 1999-2001. Named after the large cross across the middle.

Cuffs:- The part of the jumper, often in a different colour to the body where the arms go through. This can either be at the wrist on a long sleeve, or the shoulders on a sleeveless jumper.

Gradients:- A fade of one colour to another, designed to give 3D perspective in graphics, these are often used on jumpers for an unknown reason.

Guernsey:- (1) A Channel island known for its manufacturing of woollen outer wear. (2) The type of jumpers worn by footballers up until the mid 1990s; named after the Guernsey woollen outer wear.

Jersey:- (1) A Channel island known for its manufacturing of woollen outer wear. (2) What players in other sports wear.

Logo:- The graphic mark used to represent a club or competition.

Monogram:- a motif made up of two or more letters overlapping each other (Carlton).

Sash:- a colour, different from the main colour that runs from one shoulder to the opposite hip.

Sugar Daddy:- a jumper released by a club that features the names of non-players who donated money for the privilege.

Yoke:- A different colour across the shoulders which was initially used as reinforcing. These come in Vee Yoke (Melbourne) and Straight Yoke (Fitzroy) on footy jumpers.

 

[Dylan8]

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...to-all-things-footy-guernsey-related.1091016/

I think this already exists here

 

[Mero]

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...to-all-things-footy-guernsey-related.1091016/

I think this already exists here

In the three years since I posted in that thread I had forgotten that it existed.
Feel free to delete this thread and/or merge this one with that one.

 

[Dylan8]

In the three years since I posted in that thread I had forgotten that it existed.
Feel free to delete this thread and/or merge this one with that one.

I forgot about it until now too

 

[Gibbsy]

In the three years since I posted in that thread I had forgotten that it existed.
Feel free to delete this thread and/or merge this one with that one.

Merged. Cheers. Good thread though

 

[Klim]

The following may be confusing to those new to the FJ&GD, but these are commonly used in reference to certain guernseys either specifically or collectively:

- Argentina: a North Melbourne clash guernsey (2009-2011) worn with sky blue stripes replacing the royal blue of the home guernsey (away guernsey in 2011). Royal blue pinstripes outlined the edge of each sky blue stripe. Bears a strong resemblance to the Argentina national football team’s main kit.

- barcode: a reference to Collingwood’s preseason guernsey that was worn in 1996 and 1997, featuring a complex array of stripes of different widths, with the black and white colours being inverted under the chest, creating a barcode-like image.

- BiB/back in black: normally used to refer to Port Adelaide’s current design, first worn in 2010. This dispensed with the large block of teal on the previous guernsey (see SBS) and returned the club to its SANFL precedent of an ominous, mostly black guernsey. Sometimes used sarcastically in reference to Collingwood’s predominantly black home guernsey worn since 2001 as part of the ongoing troubles between Collingwood and Port Adelaide in regards to guernseys.

- Big V: the traditional guernsey worn by the Victorian state representative side, featuring a white V (with serifs) on the front of an otherwise completely navy guernsey.

- candy stripe: a reference to several St. Kilda guernseys (worn 1886-1896 before the VFL, then in the VFL from 1897-1918), which featured black, white and red vertical stripes (black, gold and red from 1915). The black, white and red, thinly striped version was adopted as a heritage guernsey in 1996 and 2003, and then as the clash guernsey in 2004, then the away guernsey in 2005 and 2006. A 2015 alternate guernsey also is referred to as the candy stripe, similar to the early VFL designs with thicker stripes.

- crusader/hot cross bun: St. Kilda’s 1996 pre-season guernsey which became the club’s home guernsey from 1997-2001. This features a red base, with a black cross atop a white shield on the stomach, which looks like the design of a hot cross bun.

- diamonds: a preseason guernsey worn once by Hawthorn in 1995. Featured a non-club-colour in navy as the base, with brown and gold diamonds on the front, inspired by a pre-season jersey (albeit on a white base) worn by the then-NSWRL’s Brisbane Broncos in previous years.

- Fed Square: a training guernsey worn by St. Kilda in 2013, containing a monochromatic and geometric design resembling the detail of the buildings in Melbourne's Federation Square.

- g-string/thong: a reference to Richmond’s 2014 clash guernsey, which gives the impression of a yellow “whale tail” at the bottom of the guernsey.

- Livestrong: Carlton’s 2009 promotional jumper for Lance Armstrong’s Livestrong charity, featuring his signature, a navy CFC monogram and navy collar, cuffs and sidepanels on a yellow (the charity’s colour) base. Controversial in hindsight given Armstrong’s involvement and his later downfall, this was also unpopular for deviating with the club’s traditional navy blue.

- murder of crows: the name given to Adelaide’s clash guernseys from 2013 and 2014.

- ochre: a reference to an older West Coast away guernsey (2000-2002) which featured earthy colours (including the namesake ochre) and heavy use of gradients against a mostly navy base. A cult favourite of several FJ&GD regulars.

- orange (whilst referencing a North Melbourne guernsey): a promotional guernsey worn in 2000 by North Melbourne against Collingwood, featuring the away guernsey design in orange (rather than royal) on a white base. Used to promote telecommunications company Orange.

- piss stain: a reference to Brisbane’s 2007-2008 clash and preseason guernsey which was mostly white, with a blue gradient from the shoulders, and a yellow gradient coming up from the bottom. This gave the appearance of being soaked in urine at the bottom.

- prison bars/PB (used to refer to specific guernseys, rather than the design element): The traditional guernsey of the Port Adelaide Football Club. Famously worn in the SANFL by the Magpies from 1902-1946, and then 1952 onward, it was also adopted by the Power AFL side as a heritage guernsey worn in 2003 and 2007, a member’s guernsey in 2013, and worn as a clash guernsey in the 2014 Elimination Final against Richmond after Richmond could not resolve the clash as the away side. Another favourite of the FJ&GD regulars, and many traditionalists outside of the Collingwood diaspora due to the ongoing jumper troubles between the two Magpie clubs.

- Pura Milk (or similar, when referencing a St. Kilda guernsey): A yellow variation of the crusader/hot cross bun guernsey, out of club colours, used to promote Pura’s Light Start brand. First worn in 2001, it was slightly modified by adding red trim in 2003, before being retired at the end of that year.

- robodog: the former logo of Footscray, and later Western Bulldogs, which once prominently featured on the front of the home guernsey (1997-2011).

- SBS: a reference to Port Adelaide’s inaugural home guernsey design (1997-2009), which featured a motif which resembles the logo of the Special Broadcasting Service (SBS).

- seatbelt: a one-off guernsey worn by Essendon, with their traditional sash replaced by a stylised seatbelt and buckle to recognise 40 years of compulsory seat belts in Victoria.

- stickman: St. Kilda’s 2014 preseason guernsey, which featured a stick-figure saint holding the club logo as its main design element on a halved red-and-black field. Can also refer to the character and its depiction.

- Sturt (whilst referencing a Carlton guernsey): a Carlton guernsey, originally worn to promote M&Ms in 1997, and used as a clash guernsey in 2011 and 2012. This guernsey contained a sky blue base, and the CFC monogram in its usual place. The 1997 guernsey contained the monogram in white, whilst the later one featured a navy monogram. This guernsey (especially the second iteration) bears a strong resemblance to the traditional home guernsey of the Sturt club in the SANFL.

- swooping magpie: a Collingwood pre-season (2001-2004) and away design (2002-2004) which featured a swooping magpie truncating the club’s stripe design. Bears a passing resemblance to a stylised prison bar guernsey.

- tripanel/flying eagle: a reference to West Coast’s current home design (worn since 2000), worn in modified form as a preseasons guernsey from 1997-1999. Features a navy, white and gold tripanel design, and until 2007 featured a special, navy-gold gradient-filled flying eagle design, before this was replaced by the club logo. The 2000-2007 home guernsey, and 2000-2002 “ochre” away guernsey, are also sometimes referred to individually as “flying eagle” guernseys.

- yellow peril: the inaugural West Coast home guernsey (1987-mid-1988), featuring a yellow base with blue wings. After round 17 1988 the colours were reversed, and the guernsey has rarely been used since. Exceptions include use as a heritage guernsey in 2004 and a one-off guernsey, with names of all Eagles players, in 2011 to celebrate 25 years in the AFL. This guernsey is also popular with many FJ&GD regulars, and is often seen as an obvious but overlooked candidate for a suitable light-coloured clash jumper, notably as part of the FJ&GD started “Return the Wings” campaign. This campaign is seeking to oust the tripanel guernsey at the Eagles, and have a jumper set consisting wholly of wing-based designs in yellow and royal blue (although the Eagles club is seemingly pressing for navy to be maintained as part of its colours).

This post needs the jumpers updated seeing Mero has moved all of his stuff to his own domain name.