AA Deledio v Murphy

[Greggy]

Brett Deledio v Robert Murphy 2011 stats

Avg Disposals - 25.6 v 20.7
Avg Marks - 4.1 v 3.7
Avg Tackles - 3 v 1.7 (65 v 36)
Goals - 9.11 v 6.4
Contested Possessions - 175 v 109
Uncontested Possessions - 362 v 279
DE% - 76.73 v 82.03
Clangers - 36 v 40
Contested marks - 9 v 5
Centre clearances - 56 v 10
Inside 50 - 85 v 44
Rebound 50 - 82 v 111
1%'s - 68 v 59

 

[Igloo]

Brett Deledio v Robert Murphy 2011 stats

Avg Disposals - 25.6 v 20.7
Avg Marks - 4.1 v 3.7
Avg Tackles - 3 v 1.7 (65 v 36)
Goals - 9.11 v 6.4
Contested Possessions - 175 v 109
Uncontested Possessions - 362 v 279
DE% - 76.73 v 82.03
Clangers - 36 v 40
Contested marks - 9 v 5
Centre clearances - 56 v 10
Inside 50 - 85 v 44
Rebound 50 - 82 v 111
1%'s - 68 v 59

Bolded have absolutely nothing, or very little to do with a HBF, so you have just listed them to pad up Deledio's stats.

Murphy was a lot more influential coming off the HBF than Deledio, and set up more plays, and did the role of a HBF better, so he got it.

Deledio also played in the midfield a bit. Murphy did not. Of course his stats will be higher..

 

[Bodicifer]

I'm always happy to do these without bias but Murphy had a better year than Deledio as a half back...Deledio spent a fair bit on the ball didn't he?

 

[camiam]

deledio by a mile!!! bloody robbed by charlie murphy!!! i suppose lids has alot more time to get AA's then pin head lol. still robbed, the panelist who choose these things has to be changed. MOY was a joke as well

 

[Slattery_20]

Murphy does the job of a defender much better than Deledio.
Not really that tricky.

 

[theflea]

Murphy does the job of a defender much better than Deledio.
Not really that tricky.

rubbish.

 

[Slattery_20]

Easily IMHO, and he's been doing it for years in far better sides & backlines than Deledio.

 

[Rustof]

Lids only conceded 14 goals this year. In a team that averaged around 100 points against.

 

[TBoyleSuperstar]

Bolded have absolutely nothing, or very little to do with a HBF, so you have just listed them to pad up Deledio's stats.

Murphy was a lot more influential coming off the HBF than Deledio, and set up more plays, and did the role of a HBF better, so he got it.

Deledio also played in the midfield a bit. Murphy did not. Of course his stats will be higher..

Disagree with that. Outside of centre clearances, obviously not the job of a HBF, the others are all pertinent. Contested marks and posessions is showing an ability to beat an opponent 1 on 1, which I think as a defender is critical. Goals and Inside 50s are also a good stat for a HBF as it shows they are providing run and creativity out of defence.

Stats show the Deledio most certainly should have been considered for a spot in the side.

Happy that R Murphy got a gig, but I think that he was shaded this year by certainly Scotland, probably Birchall and possibly deledio.

 

[Slattery_20]

Lids only conceded 14 goals this year. In a team that averaged around 100 points against.

I'd suggest that's indicative of who he lined up on/lined up on him, and where, more than anything else.

Certainly wasn't getting #1 or even #2 small/mid forwards whenever I watched; whereas Murphy was pretty much starting the same deep spot every week and taking whoever went there.
He was back close to full-time whereas Deledio was maybe 50% back, and spent a lot of time midfield, tagging or wing.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Scotland was better than both of them, so I'm not sure why Richmond fans are so up in arms about it. Even if Murphy wasn't selected I still would have expected Scotland to make the team ahead of him.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Scotland was better than both of them, so I'm not sure why Richmond fans are so up in arms about it. Even if Murphy wasn't selected I still would have expected Scotland to make the team ahead of him.

Yep, 100% correct, Scotland easily ahead of both of them.

 

[TigerTime88]

Deledio is a much better player than Murphy. More strings to his bow and as much as people want to argue I think the stats are pretty indicative of how much more he does. I understand stats aren't everything, but they certainly do give a good indication.

At the end of the day who cares if Lids isn't AA as he is a gun player and I wouldn't even consider trading a 24 yr old Deledio for a 24 yr old Robert Murphy.

 

[Powerade 08]

Lids only conceded 14 goals this year. In a team that averaged around 100 points against.

Murphy had the better year. (so did Butler and Scotland .)

 

[Slattery_20]

At the end of the day who cares if Lids isn't AA as he is a gun player

Plenty, it would seem.

I don't really see what the fuss is.
Deledio had a pretty good year, playing all over the park.
Murphy also had a pretty good year, playing half-back every week.

Every year we complain the line between 'midfield' and genuine small backs/small fwds/wings is getting blurred & AA picks too many mids & too few backs/fwds/wings...
This is one case where they've rewarded the genuine half-back

 

[theflea]

Easily IMHO, and he's been doing it for years in far better sides & backlines than Deledio.

slats isbt that the point. lids has had to do more as the ball spends more time going into a back 50.