Not true as of now. AFL House still yet to decide any compensation or if there will be.
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Not true as of now. AFL House still yet to decide any compensation or if there will be.
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So likely the AFL have floated the no compensation idea and are waiting to hear what trade radio say about it, before making it official.
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Davis.
This is my trading and drafting scenario which probably no one will agree and turn out as a bad prediction as Gore for President.
Dawson trade occurs with the help and self interest of Western Bulldogs. We don’t want to go to the PSD if we can help it. We trade Pick 23 and 37 for Pick 17 and use that on Dawson. Round 1 Pick.
Dogs benefit by picking up 273 Draft points. If we used Pick 43 that would drop to 166 points and less enticing. Dogs would then need equivalent of Pick 26 to match Pick 2.
We have been getting some shade as being selfish by knocking back Richmond to split Pick 4. Yet Dogs praised last year for hanging on to 1st round pick in similar situation with Keath last year.
No other trades or external signings but we can go window shopping or kick the cans. Do the deal early and let 's see if something might fall into our lap.
We bring ROC back on 1 year deal or Rookie and no to Davis.
So Picks 4, 43, 61 and 64. Hang on to the 4th live pick and use for best available. Talk that GWS may be interested in Mac Andrew or if GCS use Pick 3 then they may go KPD Gibcus. So possibilities open up.
Pick 43 will probably move up to mid/high 30’s as WB and Collingwood will burn through 6 picks for Darcy/Daicos.
Pick 61 and 64 means I would be in for our 2 NGA.
O’Loughlin I heard about last year at the last minute 2 possible probable matches for the Draft Showcase in Red v Yellow. Went well amongst peers and wet. Has good foot skills and a left footer. With Parnell a potential long term replacement for Brown.
Dudley is part of the back up plan with Newchurch if Rankine does not get traded in 2022. He is listed as one of the most talented SA players in the Draft.
We would be committed if no one bid but we could pass if the offer was to high and costly. Use the free hit.
Dawson trade occurs with the help and self interest of Western Bulldogs. We don’t want to go to the PSD if we can help it. We trade Pick 23 and 37 for Pick 17 and use that on Dawson. Round 1 Pick.
Dogs benefit by picking up 273 Draft points. If we used Pick 43 that would drop to 166 points and less enticing. Dogs would then need equivalent of Pick 26 to match Pick 2.
We have been getting some shade as being selfish by knocking back Richmond to split Pick 4. Yet Dogs praised last year for hanging on to 1st round pick in similar situation with Keath last year.
No other trades or external signings but we can go window shopping or kick the cans. Do the deal early and let 's see if something might fall into our lap.
We bring ROC back on 1 year deal or Rookie and no to Davis.
So Picks 4, 43, 61 and 64. Hang on to the 4th live pick and use for best available. Talk that GWS may be interested in Mac Andrew or if GCS use Pick 3 then they may go KPD Gibcus. So possibilities open up.
Pick 43 will probably move up to mid/high 30’s as WB and Collingwood will burn through 6 picks for Darcy/Daicos.
Pick 61 and 64 means I would be in for our 2 NGA.
O’Loughlin I heard about last year at the last minute 2 possible probable matches for the Draft Showcase in Red v Yellow. Went well amongst peers and wet. Has good foot skills and a left footer. With Parnell a potential long term replacement for Brown.
Dudley is part of the back up plan with Newchurch if Rankine does not get traded in 2022. He is listed as one of the most talented SA players in the Draft.
We would be committed if no one bid but we could pass if the offer was to high and costly. Use the free hit.
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Looking at the photos the club put out of the players doing weights, you can see why he is getting pushed off the ball easily. He wasn't exactly lifting big weights, particularly when compared to the other players, including TT.
All this week I have heard Reid talk about the need for picks at the top of the draft for elite players. I think he meant more we would rather one high pick compared to two med/high picks. Anything is possible though.
I don't think we would do the Dawson trade and then split our pick either. That would be frowned upon across the industry and make it hard in future negotiation
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Saw this a while ago that the higher the pick the better chance at he jackpot. Statistically McAsey should be right
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No shit SherlockAFL Draft Pick Value Comparison - All Time - Draftguru
Saw this a while ago that the higher the pick the better chance at he jackpot. Statistically McAsey should be right
Amateur scouts on here only bang on about splitting/diluting our high end picks because they think they are talent gurus and every kid they see could be the one.
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It would definitely hurt our chances to trade in the future, I imagine the negotiations with Sydney are going a little like this at the moment. People forget that part of the reason we got shafted in the Gibbs deal is because we broke the news that he wanted to come to us in 2016, if we hadn’t of done that the deal probably gets done a year earlier for a lot less.
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Nope, not while SOS was there, no chance.
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So…No sh*t Sherlock
Amateur scouts on here only bang on about splitting/diluting our high end picks because they think they are talent gurus and every kid they see could be the one.
if you realise on the night that its pretty much a certainty the player you want with pick 4 (because you as a club have determined he is the best player available at pick 4) is actually going to still be on the board at pick 7…
You dont trade pick 4 down to get pick 7 and pick 15?…
what are you suggesting?.. that if this player in question is picked with pick number 7, and not at pick 4, his career is by some freak of nature now not going to be as good?..
glad you arent in charge of our draft strategy…
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Trading down nabbed us Luke Pedlar the following year and we still got our target McAsey, trading up on draft night nabbed us Brayden Cook. I think there's every chance they will be the 2 outstanding recruits of our recent draft forays.
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Given that reidy said the other day that we need to take stock and actually test out what we have on our list already…
If the guy we want at 4 looks like he’ll be there at 7.. do we trade 4 for richmond’s 7 and their 2022 first like we did with GWS the year before last.
gives us another 2022 1st rounder… could be handy if come the end of 2022 Luko or Rankine (or another player like E. Hollands) come OOC and we need trade capital to get them in..
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Also it could be a pick around 7 and the other club's 2022 r1 pick.
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I’m assuming if we do that it’ll be done on draft night and not the trade period though?
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Roos believe No.1 pick 'more valuable' than previous years
List manager Glenn Luff tells Trade Radio what North Melbourne will do with its prized selection
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The fact there is even talk of it is interesting. Not giving up hope just yet.Roos believe No.1 pick 'more valuable' than previous years
List manager Glenn Luff tells Trade Radio what North Melbourne will do with its prized selection
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Nah ...Nth Melb just dangling the carrot of #1 out there ....seeing if anyone's dumb enough to do a stupid trade
No player is worth what North would ask for
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I still think we can, and should be aiming to, end up with 2x Top 20 picks in this draft.
Realistically, the Dawson trade will almost definitely involve pick 23. What I haven’t seen floated anywhere enough though is that we can still get another 2021 pick back from the Swans in this deal.
They just picked up Pick 39 as compo for Hewett.
We give: Pick 23 and 2022 2nd Round
We receive: Dawson and Pick 39
(I know some feel giving up that 2022 2nd rounder is unnecessary but hear me out)
We then have Dawson, plus Picks 4, 37, 39, 44.
We then immediately get on the front foot to the Bulldogs and offer up 37, 39 and 44 for their 17. They hopefully gain more points from this (260 odd) than from any other offer they receive. We get an invaluable second top 20 pick (it ends up being pick 19 after Darcy and Daicos bids).
We then have picks 4 (in reality, pick 6), 17 (19) plus 60 odd going into the draft.
We then select one of Callaghan, Erasmus, Goater or Hobbs at Pick 6 (at least 2 of them will be available), and one of Rachele, Draper, Roberts, Wanganeen-Milera, Chesser, Johnson, Fahey, Sinn, Long or van Rooyen at 19 (at least 3-4 of them will be available).
Can then take a punt on a high upside type towards the end of the draft.
If the Dogs don’t want to deal with us, we could instead go back to the Tigers and look at sending them 4 for 7 and 15. As long as we aren’t throwing away Callaghan (ie we have determined Callaghan is going to be off the board by Pick 6), I’m absolutely fine with that.
Realistically, the Dawson trade will almost definitely involve pick 23. What I haven’t seen floated anywhere enough though is that we can still get another 2021 pick back from the Swans in this deal.
They just picked up Pick 39 as compo for Hewett.
We give: Pick 23 and 2022 2nd Round
We receive: Dawson and Pick 39
(I know some feel giving up that 2022 2nd rounder is unnecessary but hear me out)
We then have Dawson, plus Picks 4, 37, 39, 44.
We then immediately get on the front foot to the Bulldogs and offer up 37, 39 and 44 for their 17. They hopefully gain more points from this (260 odd) than from any other offer they receive. We get an invaluable second top 20 pick (it ends up being pick 19 after Darcy and Daicos bids).
We then have picks 4 (in reality, pick 6), 17 (19) plus 60 odd going into the draft.
We then select one of Callaghan, Erasmus, Goater or Hobbs at Pick 6 (at least 2 of them will be available), and one of Rachele, Draper, Roberts, Wanganeen-Milera, Chesser, Johnson, Fahey, Sinn, Long or van Rooyen at 19 (at least 3-4 of them will be available).
Can then take a punt on a high upside type towards the end of the draft.
If the Dogs don’t want to deal with us, we could instead go back to the Tigers and look at sending them 4 for 7 and 15. As long as we aren’t throwing away Callaghan (ie we have determined Callaghan is going to be off the board by Pick 6), I’m absolutely fine with that.
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No that is actually not what I said at all.
Further more you actually complety twisted a statement to suit your average reply.
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