Adelaide Oval Review

[Dalphonso]

I drink in the local pub all the time, I don't know how much money they've made off me over the years.

They really should pay my gas bill

Maybe you want top reconsider your lifestyle if you are in the pub all the time. Maybe that is the only place people can tolerate you?Other drunks.Stop going down there and they will still be crying for your money.Not you in whole.

 

[Red mist]

The SANFL thought they were the equal of the VFL and their players should stay home.Hence things like the ever so successful player retention scheme where players like Michael Aish and Gary McCintosh stayed home in SA.Neither of them would be in the top 100 players of the last 25 years and most in the National league had never heard of them.But we all know (IN SA anyway) that they would have been. South Australians have always been paranoidand had an inferiority complex.It is unfortunate the SANFL had it back when and still have it Today.

Bull dust paranoid, thaught? They were equal! Equal and representatively beating them. Blow your trumpet elsewhere.

 

[srv23]

I think it's time Port supporters and others had a bit of a think about their illogical hatred of the SANFL.

Lets put $16 million in assistance to one side and look at the grassroots.

Please read this with an open mind and with your love of football uppermost.

If we look at just one player's path from juniors to the AFL from a SANFL club's point of view.

A young 12 year old plays for his school. The West Adelaide people come out to conduct Auskick. The lad progresses to West's Under 13, 14 and 15 Development squads, where he's coached by West coaches, kicks footies paid for by West and the SANFL, wears guernseys paid for by West & the SANFL, with umpires paid by the SANFL and trains and plays on ovals paid for by the SANFL and their clubs.

He then plays for West's Under 17's, ditto expenditure, West's Under 19's, more expenditure, and after years of being looked after by West Adelaide, he plays a few League games, with West paying all the expenses involved. Those expenses are multiplied by the hundreds of kids treated similarly, but it's worth it as West will get a good player for their senior team..

Then there's a day in November when the Port Adelaide Football Club makes its first appearance in this lad's life.

"Player Number 1234567, Hamish Hartlett, West Adelaide.

Here's $25K, West (given to us by the SANFL to prop us up), now piss off, he's our player now.

Fair enough, they're the rules, but West have spent years on him and barely get a game out of him.

That's fine, but if you want to continue to get players that the SANFL have groomed for you, then it's going to cost you a lot of money. About what the SANFL spend, actually.

See how that system works for you when you're putting tarps over seats.

As for Adelaide players, there's stories about so many of our greats and their time at West Adelaide. I've seen them all at close quarters.

Don't denigrate, embrace the SANFL, it's your lifeblood.

Bit different from my sons auskick and early junior footy experience. He did auskick at school. Some bloke from the local sanfl club came out to assembly to say come do auskick. After that there was zero sanfl presence at auskick. Sessions were run by the sports teacher and the stations coached by whichever parents were there on the night regardless of how little they knew about footy. Was not a single rep from the sanfl club at any auskick session.

Played year 2 school footy and has played under 6 and under 7 club footy and have had no sanfl representatives involved in either. The crows and power players however have come out to do coaching clinics......

We payed for him to do junior coaching clinics at a couple of sanfl clubs....

Maybe if he gets good enough to make an sanfl junior development squad we will see some actual sanfl club presence in his junior development. Right now his coaches and team managers are parent volunteers who get minimal support from clubs or the local sanfl zone.

 

[Sanders]

Maybe you want top reconsider your lifestyle if you are in the pub all the time. Maybe that is the only place people can tolerate you?Other drunks.Stop going down there and they will still be crying for your money.Not you in whole.

I agree. Definitely their fault

 

[Tex200]

Bit different from my sons auskick and early junior footy experience. He did auskick at school. Some bloke from the local sanfl club came out to assembly to say come do auskick. After that there was zero sanfl presence at auskick. Sessions were run by the sports teacher and the stations coached by whichever parents were there on the night regardless of how little they knew about footy. Was not a single rep from the sanfl club at any auskick session.

Played year 2 school footy and has played under 6 and under 7 club footy and have had no sanfl representatives involved in either. The crows and power players however have come out to do coaching clinics......

We payed for him to do junior coaching clinics at a couple of sanfl clubs....

Maybe if he gets good enough to make an sanfl junior development squad we will see some actual sanfl club presence in his junior development. Right now his coaches and team managers are parent volunteers who get minimal support from clubs or the local sanfl zone.

This is carbon copy of my experience too.

It will only be if my kid ends up having elite potential that our local SANFL club will get involved

 

[srv23]

This is carbon copy of my experience too.

It will only be if my kid ends up having elite potential that our local SANFL club will get involved

Glad I'm not the only one. Don't get me wrong, our local club is awesome, but we do pay close to $200 in subs, coach and team manager are parents, goal umpire, ground Marshall are parents, guernseys are recycled each year. Have had no involvement/ nor mention of the local sanfl club when we are out at club footy.

 

[Tex200]

Glad I'm not the only one. Don't get me wrong, our local club is awesome, but we do pay close to $200 in subs, coach and team manager are parents, goal umpire, ground Marshall are parents, guernseys are recycled each year. Have had no involvement/ nor mention of the local sanfl club when we are out at club footy.

Same - we pay $140.

My kid identifies with his local club and the Crows. That's it

 

[srv23]

We also as parents have to pay the $20 each week per team to pay the field umps so I'm yet to see what the sanfl provides for my sons footy.

 

[Tex200]

We also as parents have to pay the $20 each week per team to pay the field umps so I'm yet to see what the sanfl provides for my sons footy.

Wow - our $140 is all inclusive.

But the point your making is spot on, the SANFL do zip for kids between about 5-12. Even then, once they hit 12 only 1 or 2 kids from a local club are asked into development squads.

My kid could start at 5 and be good enough to play and enjoy for years without any SANFL support.

 

[crowsup]

4) you want our license? You'll accept the terms of the license. That's what a license is.
You don't buy chicken from Coles to sell in KFC, you use nominated suppliers.

And if you really don't want to use the nominated suppliers and the nominated price list, then the upfront cost of the license is a whole lot more.

You buy a phone on a contract versus outright - same price?

That is exactly what must have happened. I agree with you.
The trouble is that I'm not given a choice to buy the phone outright. So I get the phone on a contract. If I cannot make the payments, you cancel my contract. Now, do you have anybody else you can sell the contract to and get more than what I was able to pay you? Remember you only have one phone line available so you can only sell the phone you take from me.

You must also remember that the AFL allowed you to by the licence with the proviso that Port were to be the club to use that licence.
I believe that in its' stupidity, the SANFL thought they could get the same amount of revenue from Port as they were getting from the crows.

It would have been the same result if you were producing fridges and you expected your agent in Alaska to sell the same amount of units as your agent
in the USA.

 

[Sanders]

must also remember that the AFL allowed you to by the licence with the proviso that Port were to be the club to use that licence.

That's actually very wrong. 180 degrees about face.

Part of the initial agreement in 1990 was the right to a second license, which the SANFL could award to who it wanted

 

[Red mist]

Wow - our $140 is all inclusive.

But the point your making is spot on, the SANFL do zip for kids between about 5-12. Even then, once they hit 12 only 1 or 2 kids from a local club are asked into development squads.

My kid could start at 5 and be good enough to play and enjoy for years without any SANFL support.

Even if you think you are good enough and not get asked its up to you and your parents to help try and get in them. Whereas my mate who ended up being captain of his SANFL club was given all boots and things he needed to develop. You have to really work hard and play nearly 3 games a week in juniors before you get squadded if you don't have backing at a club.

 

[bomberclifford]

That's actually very wrong. 180 degrees about face.

Part of the initial agreement in 1990 was the right to a second license, which the SANFL could award to who it wanted

Not true.

 

[Sanders]

Not true.

Bzzzzt

 

[bomberclifford]

Bzzzzt

Do you know which proposal was the SANFL's first choice for the second license?

 

[Red mist]

Do you know which proposal was the SANFL's first choice for the second license?

Port for sure ask Ross

 

[bomberclifford]

Port for sure ask Ross

Exactly the point.

 

[Red mist]

Exactly the point.

Entitlement seems to be trivial now though when a purse is emptied

 

[subaru]

Why is it a side issue? The SANFL and its clubs run a salary cap that it cant sustain. North, Norwood, West, WWT, South, Port, Sturt & Glenelg have all been close to death over the last 10 years. 3 clubs are still knocking on heavens door. This is a serious issue yet it gets completely overlooked because 'bloody Port leeches'. Instead we have muppets like Chad O'Sullivan saying the SANFL needs to look at doubling the salary cap to attract more players? How are clubs going to afford that? Thats the worst possible outcome for "grass roots footy" and development for football in this state.

I believe the "Never Tear Us Aparters "are paying over their salary cap this year..... 105% .....IIRC
Why is it ok and financially sound for you to do it?
You are just as broke as some of those SANFL clubs but you are having a crack at them for doing exactly what you are doing.

 

[Papa G]

I drink in the local pub all the time, I don't know how much money they've made off me over the years.

They really should pay my gas bill

The Mars Bar has a no Gas bill policy. They did say if Sanders was willing to drop the G, they'd reconsider.

 

[subaru]

The SANFL thought they were the equal of the VFL and their players should stay home.Hence things like the ever so successful player retention scheme where players like Michael Aish and Gary McCintosh stayed home in SA.Neither of them would be in the top 100 players of the last 25 years and most in the National league had never heard of them.But we all know (IN SA anyway) that they would have been. South Australians have always been paranoidand had an inferiority complex.It is unfortunate the SANFL had it back when and still have it Today.

I think we all know who has the paranoia, harbours massive inferiority complexes and blames it all on conspiracies against their club . They sing about it before every home game now.....
"They'll never tear us aparters " singing about "they " - Who the **** is they ?

 

[subaru]

The Adelaide Crows should really be worth $100 million but the SANFL have milked the guts out of them.Why has it taken so long for Crows supporters to finally wake up? Maybe too worried how badly little Brother was doing to see the big picture as to what was happening to themselves..

I prefer "poor cousin" myself.
There's that good old inferiority complex ...alive and well.

 

[aneale]

Well its obvious the Power are living beyond their means with $16 Million injected by the SANFL alone plus I believe the AFL have injected funds and they lost $2 million this year and have no assets to show for it, so answer me who is living beyond their means, The Power or SANFL?

both. One really has to given it can't do anything else to survive in the National comp. And then there is what the SANFL and it's respective Clubs are doing.

 

[subaru]

What if the SANFL hadn't given them the money?

 

[Red mist]

The Mars Bar has a no Gas bill policy. They did say if Sanders was willing to drop the G, they'd reconsider.

Haha, but on the same token, they have run a business for yrs and yrs while others have fallen around them.