List Mgmt. AFC - 2014 Drafting and Trading

[Deaneus!]

So, what's the current groupthink here? Should our first pick be a fast outside mid, a tall forward/KP, or best available?

I've wanted a fast outside mid all year but I'm starting to lean towards a tall forward.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

I don't want Lycett anyway , i've seen him play at WCE and he's very ordinary

 

[lunacy]

If Lycett decided to come home he would have less competition for the number 1 ruck spot here than at Port Adelaide which would help us.

Na like others have said he'd be behind Lobbe and Jacobs at both clubs. But at Port he'd play as a forward/2nd ruck. They only have Schultz & Westhoff up forward.

 

[CIDA]

Now that Gibbs is gone I can't see anyone other than Frawley / Higgins worth going after. Shaun Higgins is well worth pursuing - decent amount of experience and we all saw the potential he had as a youngster that hasn't yet been fulfilled. Definitely worth a punt.

 

[Golumless]

So, what's the current groupthink here? Should our first pick be a fast outside mid, a tall forward/KP, or best available?

I've wanted a fast outside mid all year but I'm starting to lean towards a tall forward.

Fast outside mid is our most pressing need.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Clem Smith I would love to get

 

[DangerSloane]

Fast outside mid is our most pressing need.

Which we should be targeting in the draft and also in FA.
Its not like we only need 1 of them!

 

[Tex200]

I think our biggest need are players who can kick the football - out collective kicking efficiency is poor

 

[DangerSloane]

Clem Smith I would love to get

Unless we start losing every game we play, we wont get near him.
He'll be top 5 you'd think.

 

[DangerSloane]

Also I think we have a much greater need for a KPD than a KPF.
Tend to not draft defenders high though, draft a few, develop and find the one to fill the gap left by rutten.


Obviously Hartigan in the short term, but you always need a backup or a guy on his heels to put the pressure on.

 

[Matman23]

Na like others have said he'd be behind Lobbe and Jacobs at both clubs. But at Port he'd play as a forward/2nd ruck. They only have Schultz & Westhoff up forward.

In saying that they will have Harvey and Shaw coming into the senior side in the next couple of seasons. With Redden and their medium forwards that will be a hard forward line to get into.

 

[knobby]

Unless we start losing every game we play, we wont get near him.
He'll be top 5 you'd think.

he probably won't be top 5 and he is likely to be between 10 - 2- so very much in our range, you maybe getting him confused with Pickett

 

[DangerSloane]

he probably won't be top 5 and he is likely to be between 10 - 2- so very much in our range, you maybe getting him confused with Pickett

Ive seen a few peoples mock drafts (people that generally are on top of this stuff) and a lot of them have him going top 5.

Wouldnt mind getting him (although I would probably prefer Pickett)

 

[Matman23]

Also I think we have a much greater need for a KPD than a KPF.
Tend to not draft defenders high though, draft a few, develop and find the one to fill the gap left by rutten.


Obviously Hartigan in the short term, but you always need a backup or a guy on his heels to put the pressure on.

We have done well with defenders through the rookie draft. Bock, Rutten and now Hartigan. I agree that another young key defender would be comforting.

 

[knobby]

Ive seen a few peoples mock drafts (people that generally are on top of this stuff) and a lot of them have him going top 5.

Wouldnt mind getting him (although I would probably prefer Pickett)

I reckon early this year or late last year he certainly was top 5, but some doubt has crept in on his ball use.

FWIW - Round 1 Phantom Draft by Chris25, who is a mod on D&T board

Round 1

1. St Kilda - Patrick McCartin (193cm, 95kg forward from Geelong Falcons, VIC)
2. Brisbane - Peter Wright (203cm, 102kg ruckman/forward from Calder Cannons, VIC)
3. GWS - Christian Petracca (186cm, 92kg midfielder/forward from Eastern Ranges, VIC)
4. Richmond - Sam Durdin (197cm, 87kg defender/forward from West Adelaide, SA)
5. Melbourne - Jarrod Pickett (180cm, 68kg midfielder from South Fremantle, WA)
6. Bulldogs - Liam Duggan (183cm, 76kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC)
7. Carlton - Angus Brayshaw (187cm, 86kg midfielder from Sandringhan Dragons, VIC)
8. West Coast - Jake Lever (192cm, 84kg defender from Calder Cannons, VIC)
9. Adelaide - Clem Smith (178cm, 67kg defender/midfielder from Perth, WA)
10. Gold Coast - Lachie Weller (181cm, 71kg midfielder from Broadbeach, QLD)
11. North Melbourne - Jordan DeGoey (187cm, 82kg midfielder from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC)
12. Collingwood - Darcy Moore (199cm, 93kg defender/forward from Oakleigh Chargers, VIC)
13. Fremantle - Tyler Keitel (194cm, 86kg forward from East Perth, WA)
14. Geelong - Caleb Marchbank (193cm, 85kg defender from Murray Bushrangers, VIC)
15. Gold Coast - Hugh Goddard (196cm, 93kg defender/forward from Geelong Falcons, VIC)
16. Sydney - Isaac Heeney (186cm, 82kg midfielder from Cardiff, NSW/ACT)
17. Hawthorn - Corey Ellis (185cm, 76kg midfielder from Western Jets, VIC)
18. Port Adelaide - Tom Lamb (192cm, 83kg forward from Dandenong Stingrays, VIC)
19. Essendon - Jackson Nelson (187cm, 80kg midfielder/defender from Geelong Falcons, VIC)
20. GWS - Jayden Laverde (189cm, 82kg midfielder/defender from Western Jets, VIC)

 

[Matman23]

Knightmare has Clem Smith at pick 24. I would love to get big Darcy Cameron in the rookie draft this year. I've given up on Osbourn.

 

[Vader]

I think the whole issue is that Jenkins isn't performing in the ruck. That is why he wasn't selected the first few rounds.

No, it's not. He missed the first few rounds because he was severely underdone, having missed the end of 2013 and most of the pre-season with a leg injury. This resulted in him playing very poorly in the MMC, which in turn resulted in him being omitted from the first couple of rounds of the H&A season.

 

[mattymac]

So, what's the current groupthink here? Should our first pick be a fast outside mid, a tall forward/KP, or best available?

I've wanted a fast outside mid all year but I'm starting to lean towards a tall forward.

We need spread and classy kicking so fast outside mid pls. Will lose my shit if we draft another clearance machine who can't kick or spread.

 

[hey shorty]

Darcy Cameron with a late pick would be a great get. Smith is 67kg thats super super light isnt it ?? Keitel or Brayshaw for mine.

 

[Bailey01]

Darcy Cameron with a late pick would be a great get. Smith is 67kg thats super super light isnt it ?? Keitel or Brayshaw for mine.

Would Brayshaw be someone we need though?

 

[1990crow]

Goddard from the Falcons goes alright, I think Chris25 might be undervaluing him a little, will go top ten easily.

 

[Allefgib]

Class and/or speed. Otherwise don't bother.

 

[hey shorty]

I reckon you take the best available with the first pick. You cant have enough gun mids IMO and Keitel is also very very highly rated If Pickett is still there at pick 8 (thats what we will have IMO) then grab him.

 

[Bicks]

Now that Gibbs is gone I can't see anyone other than Frawley / Higgins worth going after. Shaun Higgins is well worth pursuing - decent amount of experience and we all saw the potential he had as a youngster that hasn't yet been fulfilled. Definitely worth a punt.

No doubt about Higgins ability wise, however his career has never really gone anywhere due to consistently being injured/injury prone, approach with extreme caution. See Scott Gumbleton.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

I reckon you take the best available with the first pick. You cant have enough gun mids IMO and Keitel is also very very highly rated If Pickett is still there at pick 8 (thats what we will have IMO) then grab him.

I would take Keitel in an instant