Play Nice AFL Womens - General Discussion

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well there you go that kinda reflects whats going on there, I personally think its entertaining and much happier now my team is playing makes it a bit more interesting for me.

No doubt! These years will be looked back on in terms of developing talent, developing strategy, developing club identities.
And yeah if done correctly expansion will certainly improve interest by involving a bigger fraction of the overall AFL supporter base. But need to be careful about diluting talent pool too early.
 

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I think when you factor in the heat, time of year all that sprinkle in how long the league has been going for wasnt around 120 years ago but im sure there was some low score when the VFL started too. Just saying

Against that you could throw the fact that the rules are almost totally different, and they didnt have anywhere near the professional training, dietary regimes or training facilities that modern players do. Let alone manicured lawns for ovals.
 
Against that you could throw the fact that the rules are almost totally different, and they didnt have anywhere near the professional training, dietary regimes or training facilities that modern players do. Let alone manicured lawns for ovals.

Compared to AFL. But with AFLW being semi professional it bears some comparisons.
 
Pretty disappointing the North team haven't gone with the vertical stripes or at least for their debut game.
Little bit but the stripes will be back for all our non-Tassie games.
 
Someone remind me why AFLW is played on a full-size oval... Severely limits scoring opportunities and stunts player development. Give us more goals and it might become a more viable professional league.
Lets compare it to the reserves football ive watched over the years.

During the year they score pretty normally. There games are less time but still usually around 50-70 points. In finals they get sent to massive grounds and the scoring declines. Im talking 30/40. Its just so much harder on a big ground. I cant even begin to understand why they thought 16 a side was good for girls on MCG sized grounds.

If girls were reduced to regular sized local football grounds and 18 a side scoring would RAPIDLY improve.

Literally bring the boundaries in 10m the whole way around. Move the goal posts in 15m each way and you'll see such a difference.

So looking at the scores, I can only assume that a Casey Fields must be smaller than Norwood?
 
Compared to AFL. But with AFLW being semi professional it bears some comparisons.

Other than time frame, not really. Ground conditions, training, diet, fitness, senior and specialist coaches with years of experience, match footage, specialist coaches. - even semi professional women will have access to better than anything available in 1897. Let alone being able to fly and drive to matches instead of riding a horse.
 
Other than time frame, not really. Ground conditions, training, diet, fitness, senior and specialist coaches with years of experience, match footage, specialist coaches. - even semi professional women will have access to better than anything available in 1897. Let alone being able to fly and drive to matches instead of riding a horse.

Yeah fair call. But there's no doubt strategy and tactics will improve with time, and with more opportunity to train together and maximise strengths over the years. Definitely at an advantage but much room for improvement to occur.
 

Still gotta factor in the fact that rules were way different in 1897, the game was more of a "everybody chases the ball like it's under-10's soccer" instead of modern stuff like zones and positional setups, most players didn't have dedicated training schedules, some would play the following Sunday for works or police teams (that might have been more popular in the twenties/thirties), coaches played for the team instead of having a dedicated coach available to observe the game. The AFLW started off with most of the modern rules and a few modifications, such as less game time, less players on the field, a smaller ball...if there was a VFLW competition in 1897 with at-the-time VFLW rules, you'd no doubt be seeing goalless games maybe once a round. Amateur men's leagues in the early 1900's would have very low-scoring games from time to time. The lowest I have so far on the Footy History thread are a couple of games with just 4 behinds.
 
1 game... my theory is gone
Not one game at all, I explained it on the previous page and several times in other threads. The numbers across 60 matches just don't support your view.
 

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Really the scores last year were consistently low..
I'm surprised you think that, as a Collingwood supporter you should've seen a broad spectrum of scoring across the first two seasons (I can post some stats later tonight).

Even if the scores were consistently low though, the grounds haven't been a consistent size, so that would have to tell us something.
 
I'm surprised you think that, as a Collingwood supporter you should've seen a broad spectrum of scoring across the first two seasons (I can post some stats later tonight).

Even if the scores were consistently low though, the grounds haven't been a consistent size, so that would have to tell us something.
Pies averaged 40 points a game? And scored the second heighest total in the league. But feel free to post any selected stats you feel.
 
Pies averaged 40 points a game? And scored the second heighest total in the league. But feel free to post any selected stats you feel.
And Carlton averaged 24, it's all relative isn't it? Both the men's and women's 2018 grand finals went around 20 minutes of game time without a goal, does it matter? Regardless, I can't help ya if you don't think the AFLW Pies played entertaining football for at least 5 of their 7 matches last season.
 
The AFL have gifted Norf a premiership.

How? We've supported women's footy longer than any other club through our partnership with Melbourne Uni. Those players we've supported wanted to play for us. Geelong had the same rules we did. It was a joke that we weren't included from the start but we're reaping the rewards now.
 
And Carlton averaged 24, it's all relative isn't it? Both the men's and women's 2018 grand finals went around 20 minutes of game time without a goal, does it matter? Regardless, I can't help ya if you don't think the AFLW Pies played entertaining football for at least 5 of their 7 matches last season.
Cool my point still remains. The grounds should be smaller to increase scoring and 18 players per side.

Not hugely smaller but would make a huge difference. Ive seen senior men reserves struggle on large grounds countless times due to the extra running and distance required.
 
I think when you factor in the heat, time of year all that sprinkle in how long the league has been going for wasnt around 120 years ago but im sure there was some low score when the VFL started too. Just saying
Comparing the womens game to VFL 120 years ago is a moronic argument. The game as a whole was in an absolute infancy. Plenty of these women have been playing football their whole lives. The modern game is also completey different.
 
Comparing the womens game to VFL 120 years ago is a moronic argument. The game as a whole was in an absolute infancy. Plenty of these women have been playing football their whole lives. The modern game is also completey different.

Actually, plenty of them have NOT been playing their whole lives. Many had to stop playing when they were 12 or 13.

This is the great good which has come about primarily because of AFLW. In the near future, all the players would have played all their lives.
 
Actually, plenty of them have NOT been playing their whole lives. Many had to stop playing when they were 12 or 13.

This is the great good which has come about primarily because of AFLW. In the near future, all the players would have played all their lives.
Yes plenty have not plenty have. The point is comparing the scoring to the 1800s is moronic
 
Agree but clearing space will take them time to learn. The defensive units will always be the coaches priority for all clubs and it will take time, maybe years for the attacking teams to learn how to break it down. They probably know already in theory but they can’t actually do it yet. Like I said this will take considerable time.

The men generally know when to stand 3 - 5m off the contest, and when to go. Most of the women are still learning this, aside from a handful of the better players e.g. Ellie Blackburn does it consistently, and Nina Morrison from Geelong was very good at it on the weekend. Partly it's also having the kicking skills to rapidly cross to the open side of the ground as well, there's not a lot of players who can do this just yet, certainly not instinctively the way we see in the AFL.

I thought the defensive setups were much more solid from what I could see, more intercept marking and better ability to turn a defensive entry in to a rebound exit. The space will come with time and experience, as younger players come through the juniors learning the game it should start to be a more natural instinct as well.
 

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