Mega Thread All things Heritier Lumumba (Good luck H. Thread closed)

[wicksy]

what about this then:
Collingwood: Picks 3 & 4
Brisbane: Beams
Melbourne: Lumumba and Merrett
and later picks aswell

So Melbourne are giving #3 for Lumumba and Merrett? LOL

 

[shizzle]

2000Nick RiewoldtSt KildaSouthport SharksQAFL
2001Luke HodgeHawthornGeelong FalconsTAC Cup
2002Brendon GoddardSt KildaGippsland PowerTAC Cup
2003Adam CooneyWestern BulldogsWest AdelaideSANFL
2004Brett DeledioRichmondMurray BushrangersTAC Cup
2005Marc MurphyCarltonOakleigh ChargersTAC Cup
2006Bryce GibbsCarltonGlenelgSANFL
2007Matthew KreuzerCarltonNorthern KnightsTAC Cup
2008Jack WattsMelbourneSandringham DragonsTAC Cup
2009Tom ScullyMelbourneDandenong StingraysTAC Cup
2010David SwallowGold CoastEast Fremantle Football ClubWAFL
2011Jonathon PattonGreater Western SydneyEastern RangesTAC Cup
2012Lachie WhitfieldGreater Western SydneyDandenong StingraysTAC Cup
2013Tom BoydGreater Western SydneyEastern RangesTAC Cup

I think recruiting has come a long way since the 90's, looking at the last 14 years there's only 3 that I would say haven't lived up to expectations, so getting pick 1 gives you a 78% chance of getting a gun player.

The letdowns for me being Kreuzer, Watts and Scully, it is a bit early to call on Patton, Whitfield and Boyd but they have all shown plenty of potential and look like being quality AFL players.

 

[jimmy35]

I think recruiting has come a long way since the 90's, looking at the last 14 years there's only 3 that I would say haven't lived up to expectations, so getting pick 1 gives you a 78% chance of getting a gun player.

The letdowns for me being Kreuzer, Watts and Scully, it is a bit early to call on Patton, Whitfield and Boyd but they have all shown plenty of potential and look like being quality AFL players.

Unfortunately for them they were Carltoned and Melbourned respectively so it may not have entirely been their fault.

 

[loki04]

I think recruiting has come a long way since the 90's, looking at the last 14 years there's only 3 that I would say haven't lived up to expectations, so getting pick 1 gives you a 78% chance of getting a gun player.

The letdowns for me being Kreuzer, Watts and Scully, it is a bit early to call on Patton, Whitfield and Boyd but they have all shown plenty of potential and look like being quality AFL players.

How many are the best player in the draft?

Some of them are just good footballers.

The point was that often the number 1 pick isn't the best player from his draft class, which is true.

 

[shizzle]

Unfortunately for them they were Carltoned and Melbourned respectively so it may not have entirely been their fault.

Yeah good point, and the Scully mistake was then compounded by GWS, paying $1 mil per year for a guy who plays as a tagger.

 

[shizzle]

How many are the best player in the draft?

Some of them are just good footballers.

The point was that often the number 1 pick isn't the best player from his draft class, which is true.

I didn't see that in your original post, the actual statement you made was it is a mixed result. Which is fine, and you are right in saying that not every no 1 pick is the best player in their draft, but clearly if you get the number 1 pick, the odds of it being a gun or star player are very good.

It's quite easy in hindsight to nitpick and say well Hird was the best player in his draft picked late or Swan was one of the best in his draft picked late or why didn't Carlton take Pendles at no 1. My point is that if you can get pick 1 there is a very good chance that said player will be a gun.

 

[loki04]

I didn't see that in your original post, the actual statement you made was it is a mixed result. Which is fine, and you are right in saying that not every no 1 pick is the best player in their draft, but clearly if you get the number 1 pick, the odds of it being a gun or star player are very good.

It's quite easy in hindsight to nitpick and say well Hird was the best player in his draft picked late or Swan was one of the best in his draft picked late or why didn't Carlton take Pendles at no 1. My point is that if you can get pick 1 there is a very good chance that said player will be a gun.

Was a reply to 3 posts if you go back and look, the overriding point being that you can get much better value in some drafts trading it out for multiple 1st rounders or a low 1st rounder and quality youth etc. Basing it opn the premise that often the number 1 pick isn't the best player in the draft anyway.

 

[TradeDraft]

Geelong and Melbourne have reportedly agreed to Pick 33 in exchange for Mitch Clark, Melbourne will then on trade Pick 33 to Collingwood for Heritier Lumumba.

- Jon Ralph

That is very Cheap and shows we just want to get Rid off Lumumba.

Pick 33 for Mullett?

https://www.facebook.com/AFLSeasonAndOffSeasonNews

 

[Jonno94]

It will become around pick 35, pretty crap TBH.

 

[Matt_352]

Fudge that Pick 22 thanks or gtfo

 

[Scodog10]

Take it and run he isn't worth a top 50 pick, IMO. I'd also agree with Jmac that this is hardly threadworthy with a trade rumors thread already up and running...

 

[Travis bloke]

Nah stuff that I would rather get a player from Melbourne even Watts is better than pick 33 F......k that

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Ugh, what's the point. Might as well give him away for free. Maybe we can package it up for something else.

 

[jmac70]

Ugh, what's the point. Might as well give him away for free. Maybe we can package it up for something else.

You answered your own question there.

 

[Pendles!]

Eh, its about what he's worth. Id rather pick 20, but lets be honest thats overs.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Negotiation 101

 

[Enforcer]

So in effect we get Geelong's hand me down pick for Mitch Clark.

Dees started off pretty keen as their original second round pick, then mid second now blown out to pick 33.

I would want something better than that.

 

[Vicky Park]

New Lumumba rumour thread (pick 33) merged with existing thread.

FYI TradeDraft

 

[BEEG]

So Melbourne are giving #3 for Lumumba and Merrett? LOL

Wicksy, people may throw up stupid trade ideas that most will not agree with but you don't need to hang it on everyone when it happens.
All I see is negative s**t from you towards posters which will make people not want to post around here.

 

[wicksy]

Wicksy, people may throw up stupid trade ideas that most will not agree with but you don't need to hang it on everyone when it happens.
All I see is negative s**t from you towards posters which will make people not want to post around here.

Good to see you used your spell check.

Overall, I think i'm very positive about our Pies and the direction the club is heading... Perhaps you are talking about the posters that turn every thread into a "Sack Buckley" orgy??

 

[SugarCoat]

Would be a diasspointing result if we got Pick 33 for him.
We should be telling Melbourne its Pick 22 or no deal.

 

[mattys123]

Just take pick 33 and move on.

 

[ksardog]

Would be a diasspointing result if we got Pick 33 for him.
We should be telling Melbourne its Pick 22 or no deal.

the fact that we didnt want a straight swap between lumumba and clark when we were interested in him makes me believe there is no way we will accept pick 33 for him.
pies get pick 22
melbourne get lumumba and pick 45

 

[Bay Pie]

At least go:

Pies- Lumumba & pick 28
Dees - Picks 22 & 33

End result, pick 33 & upgraded 2nd round pick

 

[Scodog10]

Funny, I can't remember the last time Saints made a "smart" decision in trade or draft period. I have a good friend who is a Saints supporter and he swears they are ******* up there in management.

Dunstan, Acres, Longer and Savage v Hartung and McEvoy was some of the best off-season work I've seen in a long time last year!