Mega Thread All things Tony Abbott

[blackcat]

As a 30 year old woman Jane probably adored Richard Nixon.

tricky dicky.

even Naomi Robson gave up to Bubba after GregNorman handballed his sandbelt queeze after the human clap Josh Gibson relented

 

[noddy]

I love that song and that rendition was great

but I have no idea what your last two posts mean

TFFT as that makes two of us.

 

[LanceRomance]

They are violating our privacy for our own good and if you are not a terrorist you don't have to worry - sounds like a nanny to me

Well one way you cant make your own choice... the other you can.

 

[pokerspiv]

Which govt policies qualify?

The ones that fall under the definition of "Nanny State" that was posted earlier for your benefit.

 

[pokerspiv]

One Term Tone is all for a woman's right to choose. Oh wait, no he is not.

Labor and Liberal share the same policy on abortion. This is an example of the imaginary differences you guys think there are. Abbott personally dislikes abortion but the policy of the Liberal party is exactly the same as Labor's.

You guys must imagine that the ALP are somehow champions of individual rights and freedom. There's not a single policy in which they are more liberal than the Liberals that I can think of. The backbone of the ALP are socially conservative union heavyweights.

 

[Number37]

Labor and Liberal share the same policy on abortion. This is an example of the imaginary differences you guys think there are. Abbott personally dislikes abortion but the policy of the Liberal party is exactly the same as Labor's.

You guys must imagine that the ALP are somehow champions of individual rights and freedom. There's not a single policy in which they are more liberal than the Liberals that I can think of.

Make up your mind, one minute they are the same, next they are different.

 

[pokerspiv]

Make up your mind, one minute they are the same, next they are different.

"they don't have any better policies" is not the same thing as "all their policies are the same".

The ALP for example gave us the Nicola Roxon war on everything: Alcopops, Cigarettes, Fatty foods etc.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/10...ola-isnt-making-us-thin/?wpmp_switcher=mobile

Like I said, can you name any Labor policy that is *more* liberal than the Liberals? You were, after all, the one claiming that the Liberals had "more extreme nanny state policies". So far you have provided zero to back that up.

Zero.

The electronic frontier foundation rated Labor worse than the Liberals on the issues of internet censorship and surveillance prior to the last federal election. As someone who apparently puts a high importance on the freedom of the internet, how can you justify preferencing Labor above the Libs?

 

[Number37]

"they don't have any better policies" is not the same thing as "all their policies are the same".

The ALP for example gave us the Nicola Roxon war on everything: Alcopops, Cigarettes, Fatty foods etc.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/10...ola-isnt-making-us-thin/?wpmp_switcher=mobile

Like I said, can you name any Labor policy that is *more* liberal than the Liberals? If not, why does it surprise you that Libertarians have no interest in the ALP?

You are about as 'Libertarian' as One Term Tone is truthful.
If you believe anything One Term Tone says you would believe anything.
Stop the boats.
Axe The Tax.
Ditch the Witch.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

The ALP for example gave us the Nicola Roxon war on everything: Alcopops, Cigarettes, Fatty foods etc.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/09/10/all-this-nagging-nicola-isnt-making-us-thin/?wpmp_switcher=mobile

Yeah, I remember that. As someone who curses the alcohol excise daily I can't agree with other higher taxation rates on 'dangerous' food and/or drinks either.

The electronic frontier foundation rated Labor worse than the Liberals on the issues of internet censorship and surveillance prior to the last federal election. As someone who apparently puts a high importance on the freedom of the internet, how can you justify preferencing Labor above the Libs?

This is about what I thought. Vote Greens/Pirate Party Alliance!! Arrrrrrrgh!

 

[scon]

Another year another smuggled budgie where the knob's smaller than the stupidity!!

 

[Number37]

The electronic frontier foundation rated Labor worse than the Liberals on the issues of internet censorship and surveillance prior to the last federal election.

One Term Tone straight out lied 4 times in the one sentence when interviewed on SBS the day before the election.
Why would anyone believe a word that comes from the LNP before an election. It is all outright lies.

 

[pokerspiv]

You are about as 'Libertarian' as One Term Tone is truthful.
If you believe anything One Term Tone says you would believe anything.
Stop the boats.
Axe The Tax.
Ditch the Witch.

It's funny because the only person here quoting moronic political slogans is you.

By the way, are you aware that Tony Abbott is not the only person in the Liberal party, and certainly not the only one who formulates policy? Because it sounds a lot to me like you think Tony Abbott's personal beliefs and the policies of the Liberal Party are the same thing. That is no more true of Abbott than it was of Gillard (who was personally far more to the left than the Labor party as a whole).

 

[Number37]

...sounds a lot to me like you think Tony Abbott's personal beliefs and the policies of the Liberal Party are the same thing...

Don't be silly. Abbott hasn't got any beliefs. He says whatever he thinks people want to hear. He does whatever he is told by the Business Council. If he didn't he wouldn't be PM.
It has become plain for everyone to see that Abbott is poison, a hypocrite, a liar and deceitful.
Gillard was none of those things.

 

[pokerspiv]

Don't be silly. Abbott hasn't got any beliefs. He says whatever he thinks people want to hear. He does whatever he is told by the Business Council. If he didn't he wouldn't be PM.
It has become plain for everyone to see that Abbott is poison, a hypocrite, a liar and deceitful.
Gillard was none of those things.

ok

 

[Grin]

The impression from the Abbott camp seems to be that the message hasn't been sold. So rather than changing his approach and putting forward sensible, less repugnant policies, he'll simply spend shit loads of tax payer dollars trying to con people.

 

[Borry]

How convenient no security state activity can come within the slippery definition of nanny state. So anti smoking laws are fundamental outrage to free expression but universal surveillance of Internet traffic is not
- I don't understand people these days

Get with the program, its only a nanny state measure if it is implemented by the ALP or the Greens.

 

[pokerspiv]

How convenient no security state activity can come within the slippery definition of nanny state. So anti smoking laws are fundamental outrage to free expression but universal surveillance of Internet traffic is not
- I don't understand people these days

The definition of nanny state just isn't as slippery as you think.

You seem to be using it as a synonym for "bad stuff". It actually has a specific meaning.

 

[JeffDunne]

The pissing contest over the nanny state in this thread is pretty moronic (as is the term).

You'd need a pretty powerful microscope to see the difference between the two major parties in their bubble-wrapping of society.

 

[GuruJane]

Aw shucks short pants brigade seems to have run out of steam.
Seems to be a lot of size phobia around though. Classic Freudian response to alpha male authority figure. No good women in your lives boyz??

 

[pokerspiv]

You're right, it is moronic.

Nanny State is a term with a fairly unambiguous definition which I linked on the last page. There's not much I can do if some spuds are going to keep being pig-headed about it.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

The electronic frontier foundation rated Labor worse than the Liberals on the issues of internet censorship and surveillance prior to the last federal election. As someone who apparently puts a high importance on the freedom of the internet, how can you justify preferencing Labor above the Libs?

Their stance on the Liberals would be quite different now. 3 signal was also quite generous on the FTTN NBN.

 

[madmug]

really, if so that is f'd or are you making shit up?

BF is full of made up stuff. Most of it is 'opinion'. Like most of your posts infact.

Was wondering when someone out of short pants would turn up.

Trousers a bit of a turn on for you then?

 

[Getz]

Is the ppl nanny state?
Fuel tax to decrease emissions?
Telling us we don't need to know things, for our own benefit?
Dobbing in a mate, just in case?
Any of that as evil as changing cig packaging?

 

[Power Raid]

BF is full of made up stuff. Most of it is 'opinion'. Like most of your posts infact.



Trousers a bit of a turn on for you then?

yep and nothing wrong with expressing an opinion

carry on!

 

[Power Raid]

Aw shucks short pants brigade seems to have run out of steam.
Seems to be a lot of size phobia around though. Classic Freudian response to alpha male authority figure. No good women in your lives boyz??

may be not the type of "good women" relationships you are referring to but according to a recent study one particular women is very important and will determine your path in life:

“Men who had ‘warm’ childhood relationships with their mothers took home $87,000 more per year than men whose mothers were uncaring. Men who had poor childhood relationships with their mothers were much more likely to develop dementia when old. Late in their professional lives, the men’s boyhood relationships with their mothers — but not their fathers — were associated with effectiveness at work. On the other hand, warm childhood relations with fathers correlated with lower rates of adult anxiety, greater enjoyment on vacations, and increased ‘life satisfaction’ at age 75 — whereas the warmth of childhood relationships with mothers had no significant bearing on life satisfaction at 75.”

I keep flip flopping on the PPL issue as I don't like middle class welfare but may be it is not so silly.