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Training: Thursday 23rd August
Couldn't wait to get off the train this morning. It might have looked and felt like spring, but inside the carriage it was all winter, with every other person coughing, sneezing and sniffing, with not a tissue in sight.

It feels like finals' time and it was a great morning to walk through Yarra Park and head to the Glasshouse for a coffee. Last year's A-Team has given way to the C-Team when it comes to service and coffee making. Oh well.

The players started arriving at about 11am. Nearly the entire list was on the track, with interested bystanders in Tim Broomhead and Lyndon Dunn. Jamie Elliott spoke to Buck's before going down to the gym.

Ben Reid did supervised running on the outer side.
Howe arrived late and also went to the outer side and ran with Reid. He later ran laps.
Treloar appeared early and worked with a trainer on the AAMI side. Watched him through the glasses and he didn't seem too happy. He later joined in skill work, but didn't participate in match practice.

Tyson Goldsack did full training as did Flynn Appleby.

Match Simulation:
Black V Yellow
Some of the match-ups were:
McLarty V Madgen
Langdon v Wills
Maynard v Stephenson
Murphy v Faz
DeGoey v Appleby
Daics v Crisp
Goldsack V Cox
Tyler Brown v Mihacek
Smith v Varcoe

Yellow team heads toward Hisense end and Stephenson crumbs for a goal.
Now the ball heads to the Yarra end and DeGoey takes a strong contested mark against Appleby and goals.
They looked very sharp this morning, in fact, as sharp as I've seen them on the track all year. Very slick by hand and foot and if only Taylor Adams could bring these training skills to match day; his kicking was superb.

Darcy Moore did all of the warm ups and then went across to the outer side with a trainer. He left the track after about 40 minutes.

I watched Treloar closely when we joined in the ball drills. He ran and kicked ok, but he had no real dash about him. Two weeks ago he looked as if a return might be possible. Today he looked a bit proppy and I thought he may be beginning to feel he won't make it. Hop I'm wrong of course.

The group was in very high spirits. Maynard had a ball down at the Olympic Boulevard end and it was noticeable that here was a group pretty happy with itself. Yes, finals would do that, but they seem a group in the groove.
I made much of Sier looking like an outsider last year. He hardly interacted with any other players and couldn't find the ball. So much different now. He's fitter, is committed and acts as if he belongs out there. Liked a couple of his 50m goals today as well. The boy can consistently kick 50m off a couple of steps.

Mason Cox also did some goal kicking from the 50 m line near the boundary. Didn't see him make the distance. One bounced through though.

Max Lynch took a few contested grabs today. He's one I tend not to notice, but today he looked more likely. He's just turned 20 and has always been ok skill wise, so good to see the marking improving. He rucked against Grundy today.

Sidebottom wore Kayle Kirby's No.27 guernsey today. They must be made of very stretchy fabric those ISC things! Sidey probably packed his jumper ready for the trip west.

Happy to answer any questions.
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Great job Apples, really appreciate it
 
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All trained today

Howe and Treloar are said "to have trained strongly"
 

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Jonno94 said:
Yes please, can't see us winning a final without at least 3 of these 4.
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Howe and Treloar definitely.

But Moore and Reid haven't fired a shot all year.

By memory, we haven't even won a game this year with Moore in the side.

Although I'd prefer Moore or Reid in over Oxley or Magden granted.
 
DaVe86 said:
Howe and Treloar definitely.

But Moore and Reid haven't fired a shot all year.

By memory, we haven't even won a game this year with Moore in the side.

Although I'd prefer Moore or Reid in over Oxley or Magden granted.
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We need a capable KPD in the side to do any damage. Howe and Langdon intercepting is more than ideal.
 
Jonno94 said:
We need a capable KPD in the side to do any damage. Howe and Langdon intercepting is more than ideal.
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Not disagreeing. It's why I thought the biggest injury we sustained this year was Dunn. Reckon we can replace just about everyone except Dunn.

In relation to a KPD, I don't see Moore as been the answer in that regards. I actually see him as more of an intercept type. He has shown to struggle one on one in the few games he has played.

Reid is the most accomplished, but don't reckon he has the miles in the legs to run on a key forward. Again, he is probably more suited to peeling off and intercept marking.

The only one that could come in and play full back is probably Goldsack. Reckon he'd be an upgrade on Oxley.

The other option is playing Howe at Full Back. He's had to play that role on occasion this year. Did a great job on Ben Brown.

Then perhaps Moore or Reid play the intercept role instead of Howe
 
DaVe86 said:
Howe and Treloar definitely.

But Moore and Reid haven't fired a shot all year.

By memory, we haven't even won a game this year with Moore in the side.

Although I'd prefer Moore or Reid in over Oxley or Magden granted.
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I think in the 1st Lions game he was playing but your correct he did not contribute much and has not all season and we have lost every game when he has been injured during the match.
For me Moore would need to play VFL before I considered him for selection.
 
DaVe86 said:
Howe and Treloar definitely.

But Moore and Reid haven't fired a shot all year.

By memory, we haven't even won a game this year with Moore in the side.

Although I'd prefer Moore or Reid in over Oxley or Magden granted.
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Reid 6 games, averages 11.5 disposals and 1.3 goals a game. Not banging down the door but def. not 'didn't fire a shot'
 

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DaVe86 said:
Then perhaps Moore or Reid play the intercept role instead of Howe
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Yeah bingo. Going to do much less damage to the wobbly legs if they can pick/time their run a bit better.

Given the way we burst and run, I'm hoping Bucks decides to stack the backline a little in finals footy and rely on run and carry to create most of our goals. TBH De Goey and Stephenson seem to thrive on it.
 
DaVe86 said:
Howe and Treloar definitely.

But Moore and Reid haven't fired a shot all year.

By memory, we haven't even won a game this year with Moore in the side.

Although I'd prefer Moore or Reid in over Oxley or Magden granted.
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I think Moore has shown enough to suggest he could be an asset if his body holds up. Against Eagles Kennedy got a couple on him running back towards goal but Moore definitely took the points. When we played the Tigers in most one on one contests with Riewoldt Darcy took the points but a few times he was too aggressive in his positioning and the ball went over his head where Riewoldt marked uncontested and if you watch the first quarter on Buddy I thought it was an old fashioned Peter Knights v Paul Vander Haar contest. Buddy got a lace out pass on the lead with Moore as close to him as possible which was impossible to stop. He also got one after we (I think it was Maynard) turned it over and it came back in quickly when everyone was out of position and then I think the 3rd came from deliberate out of bounds or rushed behind which was a stiff call.
 
Don't see us making wholesale changes for the first final at least. Most probably 2 changes, worst case 3 so it will be interesting to see who comes in

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I think Moore has shown enough to suggest he could be an asset if his body holds up. Against Eagles Kennedy got a couple on him running back towards goal but Moore definitely took the points. When we played the Tigers in most one on one contests with Riewoldt Darcy took the points but a few times he was too aggressive in his positioning and the ball went over his head where Riewoldt marked uncontested and if you watch the first quarter on Buddy I thought it was an old fashioned Peter Knights v Paul Vander Haar contest. Buddy got a lace out pass on the lead with Moore as close to him as possible which was impossible to stop. He also got one after we (I think it was Maynard) turned it over and it came back in quickly when everyone was out of position and then I think the 3rd came from deliberate out of bounds or rushed behind which was a stiff call.
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Perfect summation of what happened in both games. Good observations. Some just look at goals against. Dumb.
 

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DaVe86 said:
Howe and Treloar definitely.

But Moore and Reid haven't fired a shot all year.

By memory, we haven't even won a game this year with Moore in the side.

Although I'd prefer Moore or Reid in over Oxley or Magden granted.
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Thing is, for a lot of that time we had Dunn. That's why we need at least one of Reid or Moore.
 
Howe is the only one I'd bring back in without a VFL game, but even then I'd prefer him to play one. I'm hoping that 2 or 3 of these guys play in the first VFL final and that we win the game so that we are still able to get games into the returnees.
 
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