Religion Ask a Christian - Continued in Part 2

[Chief]

Continued in Part Two:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ask-a-christian-part-2.1295001/unread

 

[Gethelred]

Sin makes you unhappy

Does it?

It's funny that each and every act of sin listed in the entire bible can be construed as an act of rebellion against God. So, be a hard worker, pay your taxes, definitely don't get jealous or covet the king's wealth or his pretty wife (unless your name is David and you're the king, I guess; it's good to be the king) respect the natural order of things, and you're on your way to a good afterlife.

Is it any real wonder that states which held or controlled vast amounts of slaves endorsed the shit out of christianity? It's awfully convenient that God wants exactly what the kings and now the wealthy wanted and want.

Sin - or rather, rebellion - gets you closer to parity within a system or breaks said system to be more equal. Sinning is what has created progress, has fueled our innovation, and has changed the face of this world.

 

[Evolved1]

Obedience makes me unhappy. Rebellion makes me happy.

 

[Gethelred]

I always wondered about this, the end result is ALWAYS about how "i can secure" a place in heaven! it always boils down to this. Do you help a stray dog cause you want brownie points? or do you wish to help a defenceless creature cause you are a good person. I know which category i am in.

It gets even worse when we look at the difference between how the poor and the wealthy can get into heaven. The poor have to live well, to follow the commandments, to live in jesus's name and all other such baloney.

The wealthy can pay for an indulgance from the catholic church, can own churches and have their own private priests for family confessions, can repress entire populations into their faith.

Jesus can say what he likes about camels fitting through eyes of needles and whatnot, but that's just words in a book. Tell me, what do christians do, rather than what they say?

 

[Total Power]

Tell me, what do christians do, rather than what they say?

They sin, repent, go to heaven, born again, rinse and repeat.

 

[Total Power]

If I was God, toilets would be called Essendons.

And all camps will be called Adelaide.

 

[Evolved1]

The only being in the bible that didn't lie was the devil. God was a shitty manager who felt threatened by Lucifer's superiority, so he promoted his son instead and gave the devil a redundancy.

 

[Evolved1]

And all camps will be called Adelaide.

If god clothed Adam to cover his shame, have nudists defeated god?

 

[Evolved1]

One for the Catholics....How many kids does your cult need to **** before you admit that you're wrong?

 

[Baltimore Jack]

If all human kind are descended from Adam and Eve and there has been no change in us as Humans since then, which one of them was Black and which one of them was Asian?

 

[Colonial]

We are ALL Massive sinners

Incorrect for a start.
But,
Your god murders children so something about stones and glass houses.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Incorrect for a start.
But,
Your god murders children so something about stones and glass houses.

Yep, "You all have free will but because you don't love me enough, I'm going to drown all of you"

 

[chelseacarlton]

If all human kind are descended from Adam and Eve and there has been no change in us as Humans since then, which one of them was Black and which one of them was Asian?

They believe in localised evolutionary changes!

 

[chelseacarlton]

The only being in the bible that didn't lie was the devil. God was a shitty manager who felt threatened by Lucifer's superiority, so he promoted his son instead and gave the devil a redundancy.

One must check the death tally to know whom is the real tyrant and murderous psycho!
It ain’t......

 

[Vdubs]

Is that why atheists are happy and well adjusted?

In denial.

 

[Vdubs]

Does it?

It's funny that each and every act of sin listed in the entire bible can be construed as an act of rebellion against God. So, be a hard worker, pay your taxes, definitely don't get jealous or covet the king's wealth or his pretty wife (unless your name is David and you're the king, I guess; it's good to be the king) respect the natural order of things, and you're on your way to a good afterlife.

Is it any real wonder that states which held or controlled vast amounts of slaves endorsed the sh*t out of christianity? It's awfully convenient that God wants exactly what the kings and now the wealthy wanted and want.

Sin - or rather, rebellion - gets you closer to parity within a system or breaks said system to be more equal. Sinning is what has created progress, has fueled our innovation, and has changed the face of this world.

Infidelity
Envy
Lust
Slander
Gossip
Insobriety
Disrespect
Murder
Dishonesty
Theft

shatteringly innovative and world changing sins

 

[Vdubs]

Do you think your God (specially in the OT) fulfilled any of the criteria you listed above?

Maybe sending Jesus was admitting he f’ed up big time?

It was His people who f'ed up. Sending Himself as human was certainly innovative and life transforming for so many.
Think for a minute as you sit down to your Christmas lunch on Friday, why a large portion of the world celebrates this, and what our world would be like had Jesus NOT been born.

 

[Evolved1]

Infidelity
Envy
Lust
Slander
Gossip
Insobriety
Disrespect
Murder
Dishonesty
Theft

shatteringly innovative and world changing sins

What are you going to do for fun in Heaven?

I'll be driving around in a Dodge Demon while snorting lines off the big titted hooker who's gonna ride me. You wouldn't like it in Hell.

 

[Vdubs]

I am really interested to know about your concept of sin Vdubs , what is sin to you? is ordering rape of young virgin women sin? it's not when god orders it but it is when a man does it? why?

show me the order..please

 

[Vdubs]

What are you going to do for fun in Heaven?

I'll be driving around in a Dodge Demon while snorting lines off the big titted hooker who's gonna ride me. You wouldn't like it in Hell.

If you have bothered to listen to this song, kudos to you.

 

[Evolved1]

If you have bothered to listen to this song, kudos to you.

Booooring.

 

[Vdubs]

What are you going to do for fun in Heaven?

I'll be driving around in a Dodge Demon while snorting lines off the big titted hooker who's gonna ride me. You wouldn't like it in Hell.

tbh, not many people probably think that much about heaven/hell until the end nears, or if faced with a terminal illness.
In some ways, we might actually experience some of both heaven and hell here on earth.

 

[Vdubs]

Booooring.

why wait for heaven?

 

[Evolved1]

tbh, not many people probably think that much about heaven/hell until the end nears, or if faced with a terminal illness.
In some ways, we might actually experience some of both heaven and hell here on earth.

I have no intention of wasting my last moments thinking about religion. Gimme some of the good stuff so I can go out on a high please.

 

[Evolved1]

why wait for heaven?

I don't think you understand the extent of my hedonism. The only constraints are family, job, and finances.

Yolo.

 

[Evolved1]

What's so fun about Heaven? Singing songs about Jesus and learning about god is enough to put anyone to sleep. After 10,000,000 years of singing Hillsong, what are you going to do for enjoyment?

You might be tempted to read about biological evolution.