Religion Ask a Christian - Continued in Part 2

[Chief]

Continued in Part Two:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ask-a-christian-part-2.1295001/unread

 

[Number37]

A question for Atheists.

Quarks, light, gravity.

Not made of anything.

Does God have to be made of something to exist?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

A question for Atheists.

Quarks, light, gravity.

Not made of anything.

Does God have to be made of something to exist?

I'm OK with the notion that there might be some force behind the origin of the universe, but by definition it must be unknowable and ungraspable.

 

[Roylion]

Quarks, light, gravity.

Not made of anything.

Does God have to be made of something to exist?

Define "God".

And why is whatever "God" is, worthy of worship?

 

[Number37]

Define "God".

And why is whatever "God" is, worthy of worship?

That doesn't answer my question.

 

[Number37]

I'm OK with the notion that there might be some force behind the origin of the universe, but by definition it must be unknowable and ungraspable.

That doesn't answer my question either.

 

[Roylion]

That doesn't answer my question.

Can't answer the question "Does God have to be made of something to exist?" unless you define what you mean by the term 'God'.

Is 'God' an immortal, supernatural being that is the perfect, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient originator/creator and ruler of the universe, as some claim?

If not the above, what is 'God' and what form do you think it takes? Is it worthy of worship? Does it need to be worshipped at all?

 

[bfff]

A question for Atheists.

Quarks, light, gravity.

Not made of anything.

Does God have to be made of something to exist?

Quarks have mass.
Light and gravity have observable, measurable and repeatable effects.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

That doesn't answer my question either.

Well, it sort of does actually.

 

[Number37]

Quarks have mass.
Light and gravity have observable, measurable and repeatable effects.

You have misunderstood what I said.

 

[Number37]

Can't answer the question "Does God have to be made of something to exist?" unless you define what you mean by the term 'God'.

Is 'God' an immortal, supernatural being that is the perfect, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient originator/creator and ruler of the universe, as some claim?

If not the above, what is 'God' and what form do you think it takes? Is it worthy of worship? Does it need to be worshipped at all?

Thanks for at least having a go, however, twisting what I asked into some other BS to suit your BS has already been done to death.

 

[Number37]

Well, it sort of does actually.

No, it doesn't.

What is this thing that Atheists are so sure doesn't exist?
Is it just God as per religious texts?

 

[Evolved1]

No, it doesn't.

What is this thing that Atheists are so sure doesn't exist?
Is it just God as per religious texts?

We can't be sure that god doesn't exist until you define who or what god is in a statement that's testable and falsifiable. We can be sure that no objective evidence has been produced for the existence of biblegod in this thread.

Organised religion is a scam no different to some of the worst conspiracy theories. Can you prove that lizard people don't exist? If you don't believe in lizard people, is that a belief?

 

[Chief]

Is mikey127 still around or is this a meme thread now?

 

[carltonchelsea]

A question for Atheists.

Quarks, light, gravity.

Not made of anything.

Does God have to be made of something to exist?

What do you reckon?

 

[Roylion]

Thanks for at least having a go, however, twisting what I asked into some other BS to suit your BS has already been done to death.

So you have no definition of “God”.

So what’s the point of asking "Does God have to be made of something to exist?” when you can’t define “God” in the first place?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

No, it doesn't.

What is this thing that Atheists are so sure doesn't exist?
Is it just God as per religious texts?

Sorry, what is “God”?

 

[Evolved1]

We're going to be tortured in a lake of fire for eternity because we don't believe in something that nobody will define or produce evidence for.

Sounds fair.

 

[Number37]

So you have no definition of “God”.

So what’s the point of asking "Does God have to be made of something to exist?” when you can’t define “God” in the first place?

Sorry, what is “God”?

So when you religious Atheists rail against God, you're railing against something you first need defined for you?
And when you religious Atheists rail against God without a definition of God, you're railing against ...???

 

[Number37]

We can't be sure that god doesn't exist until you define who or what god is in a statement that's testable and falsifiable. We can be sure that no objective evidence has been produced for the existence of biblegod in this thread.

Organised religion is a scam no different to some of the worst conspiracy theories. Can you prove that lizard people don't exist? If you don't believe in lizard people, is that a belief?

My question wasn't about my definition of God it was about yours.
Surely you must have one if you are railing against it.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

So when you religious Atheists rail against God, you're railing against something you first need defined for you?
And when you religious Atheists rail against God without a definition of God, you're railing against ...???

Religious people can call it what they want.

They can call it 6XP-Deltoid-Fortlorp.

Nine System Wife Plum.

Achieve Perfect Cupboard With Relax Organ.

So long as they claim it exists, atheists say "prove it".

Your scenario seems to consist of:

Religious people: I believe in God.

Atheists: There is no proof of the existence of a god.

Number 37: You just said "god"! So you agree there is a God?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

My question wasn't about my definition of God it was about yours.
Surely you must have one if you are railing against it.

The only thing atheists "rail" against is the unproven belief there is a god.

 

[Roylion]

So when you religious Atheists rail against God, you're railing against something you first need defined for you?

I'm not an atheist.

I don't rail against "God". I have no idea of what "God" is, other than what is claimed by some that "it" exists. For which I have no supporting evidence that that is in fact the case. Why should I therefore believe the claims to knowledge of the truth of God made by any individual or any organisation?

What's the point of asking "Does God have to be made of something to exist?” How do you define "God"?

And when you religious Atheists rail against God without a definition of God, you're railing against ...???

I would be suggesting it would be more "railing" against claims made by some to having knowledge of the existance and form of "God".

Despite the fact there is scant evidence presented in support of claims to the 'truth' of 'God'.

 

[carltonchelsea]

Anyone got any rails?
Not arksing for a friend!

 

[Number37]

Religious people can call it what they want.

They can call it 6XP-Deltoid-Fortlorp.

Nine System Wife Plum.

Achieve Perfect Cupboard With Relax Organ.

So long as they claim it exists, atheists say "prove it".

Your scenario seems to consist of:

Religious people: I believe in God.

Atheists: There is no proof of the existence of a god.

Number 37: You just said "god"! So you agree there is a God?

My scenario doesn't have anything to do with what religious people say. I never mentioned religious people, or what religious people say.
You are only capable of thinking it about it in terms of what other people say so that you can shit can what other people say....at the same time as having zero substance to your own view. Your view is no more than God doesn't exist because religious people say God does exist.

 

[Number37]

I'm not an atheist.

I don't rail against "God". I have no idea of what "God" is, other than what is claimed by some that "it" exists. For which I have no supporting evidence that that is in fact the case. Why should I therefore believe the claims to knowledge of the truth of God made by any individual or any organisation?

What's the point of asking "Does God have to be made of something to exist?” How do you define "God"?



I would be suggesting it would be more "railing" against claims made by some to having knowledge of the existance and form of "God".

Despite the fact there is scant evidence presented in support of claims to the 'truth' of 'God'.

waa-waa-waa.
Stop having a sook and just answer the question.
The question is not difficult.
Nowhere did I mention religion or what religious people say.
I'm not asking you to twist my question into something you want to answer.
If you can't just say so. If you don't want to. No probs.
Parrotting all that other sh*t that's been done a thousand times in this thread isn't what I asked.