Religion Ask a Christian - Continued in Part 2

[Chief]

Continued in Part Two:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/ask-a-christian-part-2.1295001/unread

 

[Opine]

Maybe you could furnish us with a list of the mythical creatures you believe in?

God is on the list. What else?

Give us a rundown.

WTF are you on about. I said it was a visual expression of an underlying social norm. That’s what art is, Monkey.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

WTF are you on about. I said it was a visual expression of an underlying social norm. That’s what art is, Monkey.

So you don't think unicorns are real? Why not?

Isn't the idea of god simply an expression of various norms?

 

[Opine]

So you don't think unicorns are real? Why not?

Isn't the idea of god simply an expression of a norm?

its a good thing the other atheists and agnostics in here aren’t stupid, like you, or this long running discussion would have ended long ago. You should probably leave it to them, you’re not up to it.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

its a good thing the other atheists and agnostics in here aren’t as stupid as you or this long running discussion would have ended long ago. You should probably leave it to them, your not up to it.

Is there more evidence for the existence of god than for the existence of unicorns?

Please explain.

Do you also believe in Thor and Zeus?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Your chosen monkey image seems so sweet and insecure, it’s almost cuddle-worthy. .

Praise Zeus! Praise unicorns!

I mean, if you're going to hold beliefs without evidence, why stop at one?

 

[Roylion]

So you don't think unicorns are real? Why not?

Greek writers of natural history were certainly convinced of the reality of unicorns which they wrote about from the 5th century BC onwards. The King James Authorised Version of the Bible mentions 're'em' nine times, which was translated as 'unicorns', but now in newer versions of the Bible translate as "wild ox".

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

So you don't think unicorns are real? Why not?

Oh, unicorns are real my friend

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[Sweet Jesus]

Greek writers of natural history were certainly convinced of the reality of unicorns which they wrote about from the 5th century BC onwards. The King James Authorised Version of the Bible mentions 're'em' nine times, which was translated as 'unicorns', but now in newer versions of the Bible translate as "wild ox".

That's good enough for me. I guess unicorns are real after all.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I wonder how Christians regard newer religions like Scientology.

How do they react when they hear about Xenu and the thetans?

Are they like "gee, maybe these guys are onto something"?

Or do they dismiss it as some crazy modern fairytale confected to manipulate people?

Because if you're willing to believe something without evidence, what's the difference between a belief in the Christian god and a belief in Scientology? Basically, folks just heard about the Christian god first so they went with that one?

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I wonder how Christians regard newer religions like Scientology.

How do they react when they hear about Xenu and the thetans?

Are they like "gee, maybe these guys are onto something"?

Or do they dismiss it as some crazy modern fairytale confected to manipulate people?

Because if you're willing to believe something without evidence, what's the difference between a belief in the Christian god and a belief in Scientology? Basically, folks just heard about the Christian god first so they went with that one?

Christians only believe in the One True God, and there are no others. I remember from my Catholic upbringing

Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 20 - English Standard Version

The Ten Commandments - And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven...

www.biblegateway.com

And God spoke all these words, saying,

I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.

You shall have no other gods before me.

You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments...

Interestingly, nothing in the Bible that I know of actually refutes the existence of other deities, only that mankind should only worship the Judeo-Christian God because he was a jealous God!! Jealousy as a human emotion exists partly as a negative reaction to competition, so how could there be competition if only one power existed in the universe?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Christians only believe in the One True God, and there are no others. I remember from my Catholic upbringing

What a remarkable coincidence that they were born into the only correct religion. I mean, they could easily have been born in India and been raised as a Hindu. What a stroke of luck that they were born in countries where the only accurate religion is the most common.

Interestingly, nothing in the Bible that I know of actually refutes the existence of other deities, only that mankind should only worship the Judeo-Christian God because he was a jealous God!! Jealousy as a human emotion exists partly as a negative reaction to competition, so how could there be competition if only one power existed in the universe?

Maybe Opine can clarify? How many gods are there?

Are there many? Or is there only one? And by amazing coincidence, it's your guy, and not Zeus or Thor or Xenu?

 

[Evolved1]

What a remarkable coincidence that they were born into the only correct religion. I mean, they could easily have been born in India and been raised as a Hindu. What a stroke of luck that they were born in countries where the only accurate religion is the most common.

Maybe Opine can clarify? How many gods are there?

Are there many? Or is there only one? And by amazing coincidence, it's your guy, and not Zeus or Thor or Xenu?

There are about 4000 recorded in https://www.godchecker.com/

Imagine the odds of picking the right one at random. Christians truly are blessed to have found the one true deity. Not only were they blessed to be born in a country that god loves, but also in a time that god loves. They could have believed in Aboriginal false gods if they were born in Australia just a few hundred years ago.

Now, where do I find the one true unicorn?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

There are about 4000 recorded in https://www.godchecker.com/

Imagine the odds of picking the right one at random. Christians truly are blessed to have found the one true deity. Not only were they blessed to be born in a country that god loves, but also in a time that god loves. They could have believed in Aboriginal false gods if they were born in Australia just a few hundred years ago.

Yes, quite a stroke of luck.

I'd love to know how they cracked the case.

 

[carltonchelsea]

About as much intellectual punch as a stale wet lettuce.

Muchos Intellectualos Amigos

 

[Chief]

Imagine the odds of picking the right one at random. Christians truly are blessed to have found the one true deity.

I’m imagining Jesus wouldn’t let people who believe in him to believe in the wrong God.

He’s great that way.

 

[Number37]

Which is why we have Agnostics I guess.

You can believe in what you like, just don't come knocking on my door with it.

The way that religious beliefs are used to cause so much hate & hurt in the world, over the Millenia, surely must create doubts as to the existence of some omnipotent creative force in the first place. Surely if that is the creator of all, something would happen to help 'Man' some 2000 years after his 'Son' had visited the place. A bit like a check on a rental property! I guess we might yet get a 'notice to quit!!!

Thats the Christian bit, Its only 2000 years old. So where was 'God' before that for the last 13billion years? Or before the big bang?

Clearly the bible has skipped a few chapters about all that.

The Spaghetti Monster is not made out of spaghetti.
A book that isn't true is conclusive proof of the non-existence of something that isn't related to the book.
If there was a God then things would happen just how I think they should.
Because things don't happen just how I think they should there cannot therefore be God.

How many Atheists does it take to change a light bulb?
No answer yet. Still waiting....they're all too busy arguing that if God exists then we wouldn't need light bulbs because we would have unicorns and fairies and we would sit around singing kumbaya all day and there would be no sorrow and be no pain and we'd smoke cigarettes on Christmas Day. There'd be no happiness or sadness. Einstein would be a hippy and we would never have learned of his theories. There wouldn't have been any world wars. Alexander the Great would be known as Alexander. There would be no Roman Empires because. There'd be no history. No school. No education. The world would be perfect, just like everyone would expect if there was God. What's perfect? Perfect is perfect Duh. Logic and reason!

 

[Number37]

But here’s the thing mate, you don't discuss it.

You ask a question on here and when people ask you to clarify what you mean, you go straight into snarl mode and say that everyone is twisting your words.

eg, you were saying that atheists "rail against god" in an apparent attempt to clarify the thrust of your question, and I, and several other posters, pointed out that if atheists "rail" against anything, it is against the belief in an unproven god, which is a very different thing to railing against god. Atheists simply don't rail against god.

But not once did you acknowledge that point in your march to high dudgeon.

And now I log on this morning and see things have deteriorated down the all-too-predictable path. Getting het up because people raise religion in answer to a question about god in a thread titled "Ask A Christian". I mean, FMD.

Sorry mate, you don't get to play by a different set of rules to everyone else here. You are a really good poster on so many topics but you've come in here with some bizarre agenda and a complete inability to own your own posts, let alone clarify them without getting into a huff. Which is why I say I'm not going to engage.

Define "god" and some people might engage.

By your own words ...

"I'm not going to engage"...

So your post was what?
You not engaging?
A warning?
Friendly advice?

In the same post that you accuse me of wanting to only play by my rules you demand that I do something so that people engage.
Together with your claim that you will only engage under certain conditions....sounds to me a lot like you wanting to only play by your rules.

I won't bother engaging with you anymore.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

I’m imagining Jesus wouldn’t let people who believe in him to believe in the wrong God.

He’s great that way.

I try.

Please note that I'm now calling myself "Lord of the Dance".

You love it.

 

[Number37]

That's as witty as you get.

You're a funny campaigner that isn't funny.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

You're a funny campaigner that isn't funny.

You can't make your own arguments, but you want attention.

I think that's the last word as far as you're concerned.

 

[Number37]

The way the history teacher tells the story...

Greek writers of natural history were certainly convinced of the reality of unicorns which they wrote about from the 5th century BC onwards. The King James Authorised Version of the Bible mentions 're'em' nine times, which was translated as 'unicorns', but now in newer versions of the Bible translate as "wild ox".

What actually happened...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/unicorn-nothing-is-what-it-seems


Facts eh, Who needs them?

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Facts eh, Who needs them?

Your new signature?

 

[Opine]

…

Maybe Opine can clarify? How many gods are there?

Are there many? Or is there only one? And by amazing coincidence, it's your guy, and not Zeus or Thor or Xenu?

Yes, there is another God; he goes by the earthly name “Sam Walsh”. But you could never understand this.

 

[Chief]

The way the history teacher tells the story...



What actually happened...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/unicorn-nothing-is-what-it-seems


Facts eh, Who needs them?

Dude. Don’t be that guy.

 

[Roylion]

The way the history teacher tells the story...

I didn't realise I was required to give a history lesson on unicorns. I would have thought the point of my short comment was quite obvious. Evidently to you it wasn't. Perhaps I should have taken your lead and gone on one of your wild illogical rants.

What actually happened...

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/unicorn-nothing-is-what-it-seems


Facts eh, Who needs them?

Yeah? So? What’s your point?

Changes nothing that I wrote.

Here I’ll repeat.

Greek writers did believe in unicorns.

The King James Authorised Version translated “re’em” as "unicorn". Later versions of the Bible translated it as “wild ox”.